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Ending the Slaughter of School Children in America

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Any Followers of Jesus or Christians have any thoughts on how to put an end to the slaughter of school children in America?

The Congress and the President don't appear to have a clue what to do about it so maybe some answers could come from somewhere else.
 

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There are a great many possible actions but for most of them the political will is completely lacking so it may be best to start small. I would suggest a ban on the sale of weapons to and the possession of weapons by convicted felons, drug addicts, the mentally ill, those under court orders and the under age. A ban on the sale/possession of military/police style assault weapons be they automatic or semi-automatic. That's my suggestion ---- for a start.
 
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There are a great many possible actions but for most of them the political will is completely lacking so it may be best to start small. I would suggest a ban on the sale of weapons to and the possession of weapons by convicted felons, drug addicts, the mentally ill, those under court orders and the under age. A ban on the sale/possession of military/police style assault weapons be they automatic or semi-automatic. That's my suggestion ---- for a start.

Not a bad start, but I suspect one would have to deal with the political will that is lacking before those things could happen, huh?
 
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Not a bad start, but I suspect one would have to deal with the political will that is lacking before those things could happen, huh?

Part of that might be legislation to curtail lobbying and the huge money they throw into politics.
 
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Part of that might be legislation to curtail lobbying and the huge money they throw into politics.

That could help, but the last time they tried that, the Supreme Court ruled that money was the same thing as free speech and both people and corporations could have as much 'free speech' as they could afford.

That is a LOT of free speech for a very tiny number of people, including those people making money selling guns.
 
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There are a great many possible actions but for most of them the political will is completely lacking so it may be best to start small. I would suggest a ban on the sale of weapons to and the possession of weapons by convicted felons, drug addicts, the mentally ill, those under court orders and the under age. A ban on the sale/possession of military/police style assault weapons be they automatic or semi-automatic. That's my suggestion ---- for a start.
I agree, but trump isn't going to make it harder for gun store. He's for making the wealthy RICHER.
 
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Any Followers of Jesus or Christians have any thoughts on how to put an end to the slaughter of school children in America?

The Congress and the President don't appear to have a clue what to do about it so maybe some answers could come from somewhere else.

Looking at the legal system for answers here is like
looking in the churches to stop speeding. This is a
moral issue, not a legal one. What has changed in
the 30+ years when I was in school and you could
park in the lot with shotguns in the back window
of your truck and nobody thought twice about it?
Everyone carried fingernail files or clippers and at
least a small pocket knife. Personal responsibility.
It used to be taught at home, at church and in the
schools. Now nobody is responsible. It's always
someone else's fault; the bullies, the teachers, the
politicians, the cops. The car that cut me off.
 
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Any Followers of Jesus or Christians have any thoughts on how to put an end to the slaughter of school children in America?

The Congress and the President don't appear to have a clue what to do about it so maybe some answers could come from somewhere else.
Lots of thoughts on the matter but my bet is nothing will happen except awesome speeches even after the next 10 mass shootings which will only take a few months
 
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Not a bad start, but I suspect one would have to deal with the political will that is lacking before those things could happen, huh?
The lack of political will is indeed what is lacking. When people on my side of the pond look across at America, the opinion of most is that America is gun crazy. I know there are laws regarding the sale of weapons, but these laws can't be working when someone who shouldn't be within a hundred miles of a weapon can walk into a gun store and legally purchase a weapon that is more suited to the military.
Perhaps banning the sale of those kinds of weapons could be a start. Why on earth do people want those kind of weapons anyway?
I also think the children need to be educated away from guns. I find it disturbing to see young children as young as six or seven firing weapons at a range. They are prohibited from entering a bar where alcohol is sold, but they can use something that has the potential to kill another human being.
I don't understand why parents put their children in such a situation. There are much better things that parents could encourage their children to do. I think that America will have to face up to the problem it has with guns and make an honest effort to turn things around. Either that or resign themselves to the fact that the horror of Forida will come back and haunt them again and again and again.
 
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Mass killings are people problems first and foremost, not weapons problems.

I have no problem with stricter gun laws, but that would only scratch the surface in making an impact.
If it was a people problem and not a gun problem, then ....it just doesnt make sense. I mean none of us is worried about a person without a gun doing a mass killing in a school. Look whats the difference between the two cohorts - Human being with no gun = no mass school killings. Human being with gun = mass killings repeatedly. Seems to me that its the gun that's made the difference - why isnt it obvious
 
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Any Followers of Jesus or Christians have any thoughts on how to put an end to the slaughter of school children in America?
Be sure to find out what causes these events and why they're not prevented, and make the changes to prevent it.

Most of the killer kids were mental patients on medicines and known to the FBI.
Great patsies for the getting rid of the 2nd amendment agenda.
Wonder how long people are allowed to point that out (and there goes the 1st amendment...)

The world is run by evil people.
Much worse than the average citizen can swallow.
The Congress and the President don't appear to have a clue what to do about it so maybe some answers could come from somewhere else.
According to the MSM Trump is the anti Christ.
Meanwhile he and his team are cleaning the swamp though.
 
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Lots of thoughts on the matter but my bet is nothing will happen except awesome speeches even after the next 10 mass shootings which will only take a few months
Things are definitely happening, but you won't see it in the MSM.
 
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If it was a people problem and not a gun problem, then ....it just doesnt make sense. I mean none of us is worried about a person without a gun doing a mass killing in a school. Look whats the difference between the two cohorts - Human being with no gun = no mass school killings. Human being with gun = mass killings repeatedly. Seems to me that its the gun that's made the difference - why isnt it obvious

If someone is motivated to perform mass killings at a school, they will find a way. True, guns are convenient, but homemade bombs, driving a vehicle into a large crowd, will produce a similar result.
 
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Things are definitely happening, but you won't see it in the MSM.
Truly? Look you had a guy who had a massive cache of weapons in his hotel room and open up with automatic fire killing 58 and injuring 850+ in Vegas. Sigh - you think youve done much to improve things since then? I dunno - maybe u guys are just so immune to gun slaughters that you dont even see it as a problem anymore. I mean if you seriously saw it as a significant problem then surely youd actually do something about it.
 
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If someone is motivated to perform mass killings at a school, they will find a way. True, guns are convenient, but homemade bombs, driving a vehicle into a large crowd, will produce a similar result.
How many mass school killings have occurred that did not involve a gun over the last 10 years??????
 
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If someone is motivated to perform mass killings at a school, they will find a way. True, guns are convenient, but homemade bombs, driving a vehicle into a large crowd, will produce a similar result.
You have raised some good points - They could use a vehicle - what has the USA done (and elsewhere across the world) you guys put up bollards everywhere where large crowds walk. You could bring a bomb - so what has the USA done? your surveillance on materials for bomb making is incredible. OR you could hijack a plane with a weapon of some type - I dare anyone to try that these days - the USA has massive security measures.,,,,so whats my point - you gave examples of other methods yet you know full well your country identifies such threats and acts on them with a massive degree of pro-activeness........ EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO GUNS
 
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Truly? Look you had a guy who had a massive cache of weapons in his hotel room and open up with automatic fire killing 58 and injuring 850+ in Vegas.
I know most people only know what the MSM reports.
I guess i'll have to live with that...
But i would advise you to look deeper into it.
The official Las Vegas shooting story is highly ambiguous.
In fact, as i said, most terror attacks are apparently not what they're portrayed to be.
Sigh - you think youve done much since then?
I'm just a guy in the Netherlands. What can i do other than point out there's more to those stories than the 'official' version.
I dunno - maybe u guys are just so immune to gun slaughters that you dont even see it as a problem anymore.
That's just a stupid and offensive remark.
Do you think i don't care or something?
The evil in the world, including rampant child molestation, trafficking and even sacrifice weighs very heavy on my heart.
Why don't you care to look a little further than what they want you to believe?
Don't you want it to stop?
We're not supposed to take part in the workings of evil, but we're supposed to expose them.
I wish i could do more..
I mean if you seriously saw it as a significant problem then surely youd actually do something about it.
This is in the hands of Trump and team now.
People are starting to wake up to what many (yet a minority) have known (or suspected) for a long time.
The key to the US citizens is that they forgot they have the power under the Constitution.
But the majority is quite reluctant to be "red pilled".
Maybe because they actually have a suspicion that it's all very bad and evil, and it would make them break down in desperation.
I can understand that.
 
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