Suing another Christian because of a fall. Should I do it or not?

[Archivist]

Before this escalated, the OP should have stepped up and communicated with the manager/owner to see if they would be willing to compensate. We don't work for restoration anymore in this culture, it's easier to make a fuss and place blame on someone. By gum, we want justice regardless of the cost.

Again, the injury in question may be a lesson for OP.

Actually the owner, who was there when this happened, should have immediately spoken with the OP, asked how he was, etc. why should this be a lesson for the OP—he was the victim. If anyone should get a lesson it should be the owner.

 

[Hearingheart]

This thread is about a Christian suing another Christian. I've spoken my mind on the subject. Just another example, to me, that most Christians are no different than those who aren't in their actions and mindset.

 

[Archivist]

This thread is about a Christian suing another Christian. I've spoken my mind on the subject. Just another example, to me, that most Christians are no different than those who aren't in their actions and mindset.

As I said in my earlier post, while the suit my be filed against a business the real defendant here is an insurance company.

 

[RaymondG]

Just another example, to me, that most Christians are no different than those who aren't in their actions and mindset.

Very true words. One should treat all equally....as they would want to be treated.. If the question of whether or not they are a Christian comes into play......there may be a problem....

 

[RaymondG]

As I said in my earlier post, while the suit my be filed against a business the real defendant here is an insurance company.

I find it somewhat strang that we would be forced to pay for insurance for accidents, but never allowed to use it for accidents. But I pray for no accidents ever! and the law is the law, so i will still have to pay for the insurance.

 

[RaymondG]

I find it somewhat strang that we would be forced to pay for insurance for accidents, but never allowed to use it for accidents. But I pray for no accidents ever! and the law is the law, so i will still have to pay for the insurance.

When need to get some insurance agents on this site to give 100 "agrees" and back up this thought process. "Pay for insurance, but it is wrong to use it!"

 

[Kit Sigmon]

Never sued anyone before till now. I fall in a restaurant parking lot because of a pot hole filled with ice. Fall on my face and broke my nose and went too the hospital ER. The restaurant is being sold by real estate and is not being kept up on maintenance so the parking lot has many pot holes. They are selling the building and parking lot mainly for the land so the building will be torn down. Do I have too sue the owner's or the insurance company? Will I have too go to court? I just want my medical bill paid which will be 1500 or more dollars.

Thanks.

If you have all your medical bills, go and talk with the owner of the restaurant about the matter, let's us know what he says about paying your medical expenses.

 

[Hearingheart]

Let's ignore the lesson (a hard one) that failing to watch your step while walking may result in injury. Let's ignore this whole discussion of rights, mine, victim, I want justice and while we are at it, ignore anything that would result in forgiveness or restoration. He's probably not a Christian anyway, right?

A lot of supposition about would of, could of and what if's. Sure, why not....take him to court, he's probably got insurance and by the way, he should have been fixing that parking lot, so he deserves it. Oh, by the way, how's the Spirit directing you to handle it? Eh, it's more important that I get my way. (dripping with sarcasm for those who didn't notice)

 

[Ronald]

Never sued anyone before till now. I fall in a restaurant parking lot because of a pot hole filled with ice. Fall on my face and broke my nose and went too the hospital ER. The restaurant is being sold by real estate and is not being kept up on maintenance so the parking lot has many pot holes. They are selling the building and parking lot mainly for the land so the building will be torn down. Do I have too sue the owner's or the insurance company? Will I have too go to court? I just want my medical bill paid which will be 1500 or more dollars.

Thanks.

The owner has insurance for his restaurant up till the last day he owns it - unless he's a fool. His insurance should cover accidents like this in or outside the restaurant. This is usually handled outside of court. Make a claim to their insurance. He knows what happened, and is just trying to downplay it by ignoring it. A lawyer is more effective, but maybe you won't need one. It's like getting into a car accident, you don't really need a lawyer. You just exchange info, file a police report and make the claim. If the company is receptive and accommodating, then don't get one. Usually, as with all insurance companies, they want to pay as little as possible, take advantage of people and you end up fighting tooth and nail for a buck. Its a greedy world. But you may be surprised, they may be very cooperative.
Don't feel that you are un- Christain for wanting to be compensated for you bills.

 

[Archivist]

Let's ignore the lesson (a hard one) that failing to watch your step while walking may result in injury.

I recall being told one time that Christians show up at the scene of an accident and immediately blame the victim. That is what is happening here. The fault couldn't possibly lie with the owner who failed to maintain his parking lot. No, it is the victim's doing.

Let's ignore this whole discussion of rights, mine, victim, I want justice and while we are at it, ignore anything that would result in forgiveness or restoration.

Actually the OP never said that he hasn't forgiven the owner. He isn't trying to get anything that he doesn't deserve. He just wants his medical bills paid.

He's probably not a Christian anyway, right?

Actually if you had bothered reading the title of the thread you would know that the OP said that the owner was a Christian.

A lot of supposition about would of, could of and what if's. Sure, why not....take him to court, he's probably got insurance and by the way, he should have been fixing that parking lot, so he deserves it.

No one has said that the owner "deserved it," but as a business owner he should have fixed the parking lot. And, yes, depending on state law he should be required to have liability insurance.

Supposition about "could of"? Well, the owner "could of" come out and talked with the victim, found out how he was.

Oh, by the way, how's the Spirit directing you to handle it? Eh, it's more important that I get my way. (dripping with sarcasm for those who didn't notice)

Your dripping sarcasm is misplaced. The OP doesn't want punitive damages or millions for pain and suffering. He just wants his medical bills paid.

 

[Hearingheart]

I recall being told one time that Christians show up at the scene of an accident and immediately blame the victim. That is what is happening here. The fault couldn't possibly lie with the owner who failed to maintain his parking lot.



Actually the OP never said that he hasn't forgiven the owner. He isn't trying to get anything that he doesn't deserve. He just wants his medical bills paid.



Actually if you had bothered reading the title of the thread you would know that the OP said that the owner was a Christian.



No one has said that the owner "deserved it," but as a business owner he should have fixed the parking lot. And, yes, depending on state law he should be required to have liability insurance.

Supposition about "could of"? Well, the owner "could of" come out and talked with the victim, found out how he was.



Your dripping sarcasm is misplaced. The OP doesn't want punitive damages or millions for pain and suffering. He just wants his medical bills paid.

Obviously, you missed all the conversations in this thread that would have shed some light on my post and or maybe you're missing my point completely...could be. Blame is due where blame is due and accountability is where we want to see it. Love it when Christians love one another. The world is watching.

 

[LadyKay]

.is it ok/right to take more than what is absolutely necessary for billing expenses.

As a Christian one could always seek God on this matter.

 

[Archivist]

Obviously, you missed all the conversations in this thread that would have shed some light on my post and or maybe you're missing my point completely...could be. Blame is due where blame is due and accountability is where we want to see it. Love it when Christians love one another. The world is watching.

Actually I read the entire thread in detail. You obviously did not given that you didn't know that the owner was a Christian.

 

[Almost there]

Just my opinion: Be careful.

Now, if it had a bed of nails at the bottom of the pothole, I'd sue. But potholes are actually pretty common. We don't live in the computer world of TRON. The real world has all sorts of pitfalls.

However, a pothole that is REALLY deep may damage your car. THAT sort of thing should be the responsibility of the business that owns the restaurant.

I did get a restaurant to buy me a new pair of pants once because I sat down with brand new pants on and their brand new table had a big wooden sliver sticking out the bottom of the surface and when I moved it ripped my pants. But I would not have sued.

 

[RaymondG]

Just my opinion: Be careful.

Now, if it had a bed of nails at the bottom of the pothole, I'd sue. But potholes are actually pretty common. We don't live in the computer world of TRON. The real world has all sorts of pitfalls.

However, a pothole that is REALLY deep may damage your car. THAT sort of thing should be the responsibility of the business that owns the restaurant.

I did get a restaurant to buy me a new pair of pants once because I sat down with brand new pants on and their brand new table had a big wooden sliver sticking out the bottom of the surface and when I moved it ripped my pants. But I would not have sued.

"Be careful" is good advice for the future. What do you have to say about the current medical bills?

 

[Almost there]

"Be careful" is good advice for the future. What do you have to say about the current medical bills?

I don't think the parking lot owner is responsible. That is what I meant by "be careful". Accidents happen. I've tripped over uneven sidewalks. I understand it's bad when something happens, but we just have to be careful.

 

[RaymondG]

I don't think the parking lot owner is responsible. That is what I meant by "be careful". Accidents happen. I've tripped over uneven sidewalks. I understand it's bad when something happens, but we just have to be careful.

I understand....So even though there is insurance being paid for to cover medical bills, after accidents, it should not be used, in your opinion?

 

[Almost there]

I understand....So even though there is insurance being paid for to cover medical bills, after accidents, it should not be used, in your opinion?

If they are voluntarily paying, take it. I'm talking about suing.

 

[Archivist]

I don't think the parking lot owner is responsible. That is what I meant by "be careful". Accidents happen. I've tripped over uneven sidewalks. I understand it's bad when something happens, but we just have to be careful.

But if you read the OP you know that this wasn't just a pothole. This was a pothole filled with ice. Where I live, and I presume it is the case where this happened, owners are responsible for injuries cause by a failure by the business to remove snow and ice. The owner should have gone out with ice melt and taken care of the problem and then filled the pothole in.

 

[Almost there]

But if you read the OP you know that this wasn't just a pothole. This was a pothole filled with ice. Where I live, and I presume it is the case where this happened, owners are responsible for injuries cause by a failure by the business to remove snow and ice. The owner should have gone out with ice melt and taken care of the problem and then filled the pothole in.

Yeah. I did read that and I get that. When it's freezing outside, I've learned to be careful. Even then sometimes I can fall. Potholes filled with ice are pretty common.

Then there is this: