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Universal Salvation - Did you know that this is at the core of the Gospel?

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The OP makes the point
Sorry, wrong premise to start with, just like the op.

He makes a 'claim', a false claim according to all Scripture, directly opposed to much Scripture,
and directly opposed to
YHWH'S PLAN, PURPOSE
and SALVATION IN JESUS
....
then, with not just one bad (false) premise, he and others likewise tried with other false premises or false assumptions to "make a point" valid, which starts invalid , which never was valid, and which can never be valid,
thus
twisting the truth entirely out of any semblance of faith in YHWH for YHWH'S PLAN according to YHWH'S WORD.

This is just as it has been for many centuries - thus it is no surprise, only a great sorrow for many souls troubled and perhaps lost.

As Jesus Says, "Woe to whoever takes the light out of a child's eyes" / woe to anyone who causes others to stumble
and those who try to prevent others, little ones, from finding YHWH'S KINGDOM in JESUS.
 
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I have been involved in discussions of the meaning of aion and aionios on this forum for more than 1.5 decades. . Here is something I have researched in the NT.
In the following twenty two verses αἰών and αἰώνιος are defined/described by other words and phrases as eternal, everlasting etc.: 1 Timothy 1:17, 2 Corinthians 4:17-18, 2 Corinthians 5:1, Hebrews 7:24, 1 Peter 1:23, 1 Timothy 6:16, Galatians 6:8, John 6:58, John 10:20, 1 John 2:17, 1 Peter 5:10, Romans 2:7, Luke 1:33, Revelation 14:11, John 10:28, John 3:15, John 3:16, John 5:24, Ephesians 3:21, Romans 20:1, Romans 26:10.

In the NT “aion/aionios” are used to refer to things which are not eternal but are never defined/described as meaning a period of time less than eternal as in the following verses.

[1]1 Timothy 1:17.
(17) Now unto the King eternal, [αἰών/aion] immortal, [ ̓́αφθαρτος/aphthartos] invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever [αἰών/aion] and ever [αἰώνιος/aionios]. Amen.
In this verse “aion” is paired with “immortal.” “Aion” cannot mean “age(s),” a finite period and be immortal at the same time. Thus “aion” by definition here means “eternal.”
[2]2 Corinthians 4:17-18
(17) For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] weight of glory;
(18) While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal;[πρόσκαιρος/proskairos] but the things which are not seen are eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios]
In this passage “aionios” is contrasted with “for a moment,” vs. 4, and “temporal,” vs. 5. “Age(s)” a finite period, it is not the opposite of “for a moment”/”temporal/temporary.” “Eternal” is. See Robertson below. “Aionios” by definition here means “eternal.”
[3]2 Corinthians 5:1
(1)For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] in the heavens.
In this verse “aionios house” is contrasted with “earthly house which is destroyed.” If an “aionios” house is at some time destroyed then it is no different than the earthly house. The aionios house is not destroyed, the opposite of “is destroyed.” Thus “aionios” by definition here means “eternal.” If the tabernacle in heaven is destroyed, it is no different than the earthly tabernacle.
[4]Hebrews 7:24 but because Jesus lives forever [αἰών/aion] he has a permanent [ἀπαράβατος/aparabatos] priesthood.
In this verse “aion” is paired with “unchangeable.” If “aion” means “age(s),” Jesus cannot continue “for a finite period” and be “unchangeable” at the same time. Thus “aion” by definition here means “eternal.”
[5]1 Peter 1:23
(23) For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, [ ̓́αφθαρτος/aphthartos] through the living and enduring word of God.
1 Peter 1:25
(25) but the word of the Lord endures forever.[αἰών/aion] " And this is the word that was preached to you.
In verse 23 “word of God” is paired with “incorruptible.” In verse 25 the word of God “endures εις τον αιωνα unto eternity. ” Thus by definition “aion” here means “eternity.”
[6]1 Timothy 6:16
(16) Who only hath immortality, [ ̓́αφθαρτος/aphthartos] dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting[αἰώνιος/aionios]
In this verse “aionios” is paired with “immortality.” If “aionios” is only a finite period, God cannot be “immortal” and only exist for a finite period at the same time. Thus “aionios” by definition means “eternal.”
[7]Galatians 6:8
(8) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption;[φθορά/fthora] but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. [αἰώνιος/aionios]
In this verse “aionios” is contrasted with “corruption.” “Fleshly” people reap “corruption” but spiritual people reap “life aionios,” i.e. not “corruption.” “Age(s) is not opposite of “corruption.” Thus “aionios” by definition here means “eternal/everlasting.”
[8]John 6:58
(58) This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.[αἰώνιος/aionios]
In this verse “aionios life” is contrasted with “death.” If “aionios” is only a finite period, a finite period is not opposite “death.” Thus “aionios” by definition here means “eternal.”
[9]John 10:28
(28) I give them eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] life, and they shall never [αἰών/aion] perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
Here “aionios” and “aion” are paired with not “snatch them out of my hand” If “aion/aionios” means “age(s)” that is not the opposite of “not ‘snatch them out of my hand’” “Aionios” by definition here means “eternal.”
[10]1 John 2:17
(17) The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever. [αἰών/aion]
In this verse “aionios” is contrasted with “pass away” “aionios” cannot mean a finite period, A “finite period” is not opposite of “pass away.” Thus “aionios” by definition here means “eternal.”
[11]1 Peter 5:10
(10) And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal [αιωνιον/aionion] glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, [ολιγον/oligon] will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
In this verse “aionios” is contrasted with “little while” “aionios” cannot mean a finite period, A “finite period” is not opposite of “little while.” Thus by definition “aionios” here means “eternal.”
[12]Romans 2:7
(7) To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, [ἀφθαρσία/apftharsia] he will give eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] life.
In this verse “aion” is paired with “immortality.” If “aion” is only a finite period, believers cannot seek for “a finite period,” and “immortality” at the same time. But they can seek for “eternal life” and “immortality” at the same time. Thus by definition “aion” here means “eternal.”
[13]Luke 1:33
(33) And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; [αιωνας/aionas] and of his kingdom there shall be no end.[τελος/τελος]
In this verse “aionios” is paired with “without end.” “aionios” cannot be paired with “without end” if it means only “ages” a finite period. “Aionios” by definition here means eternal.
[14]Revelation 14:11
(11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:[εις αιωνας αιωνων/eis aionas aionas] and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
In this verse “aionas aionon torment” is paired with “no rest day or night.” If “aionas, aionon” means “a finite period” at some time they would rest, “Aionas, aionon” by definition here means “forever and forever.”
[15]John 10:28
(28) And I give unto them eternal [αιωνιον] life; and they shall never [εις τον αιωνα] perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
In this verse “aionion” is paired with “[no man can] “pluck them out of my hand.” If “aionion” is only a finite period then at some time they could be plucked out. “Aionion” by definition here means eternal.
[16]John 3:15
(15) That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal [αιωνιον] life.
In this verse “aionion” is paired with “shall not perish.” They could perish in a finite period, “aionion” by definition here means eternal.
[17]John 3:16
(16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting [αιωνιον] life.
In this verse “aionion” is paired with “shall not perish.” They could perish in a finite period, “aionion” by definition here means eternal.
[18]John 5:24
(24) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting [αἰώνιος] life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
In this verse “aionios” is paired with “shall not come into condemnation” and “passed from life unto death.” “Aionios” does not mean “a finite period,” by definition here it means “eternal.”
[19]Romans 5:21
(21) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal [αἰώνιος] life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
In this verse “aionios” is contrasted with death. “A finite period” is not opposite death, “eternal life” is. “Aionios” by definition here means ‘eternal.”
[20]Ephesians 3:21
(21) to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever [του αιωνος/tou aionios] and ever! [των αιωνων/ton aionion] Amen.
In this verse “tou aionios ton aionion” is paired with “throughout all generations.” "Age(s)" a finite period cannot refer to "all generations."
[21]Romans 1:20
(20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal [ἀΐ́διος] power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
[22]Romans 16:26
(26) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting [αἰώνιος] God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
In Romans 1:20 Paul refers to God’s power and Godhead as “aidios.” Scholars agree “aidios” unquestionably means eternal, everlasting, unending etc. In Rom 16:26 Paul refers to God as “aionios,” therefore Paul considers “aidios” and “aionios” to be synonymous.
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• A. T. Robertson, Word Pictures in the New Testament 2 Co 4:17
(17) For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;
Literally, “the for the moment (old adverb parautika, here only in N.T.) lightness (old word, in N.T. only here and Mat_11:30).”
More and more exceedingly (kath' huperbolēn eis huperbolēn). Like piling Pelion on Ossa, “according to excess unto excess.” See note on 1Co 12:31.
Eternal weight of glory (aiōnion baros doxēs). Careful balancing of words in contrast (affliction vs. glory, lightness vs. weight, for the moment vs. eternal).
• Vincent Word Studies in the New Testament
A far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory (καθ' ὑπερεβολὴν εἰς ὑπερβολὴν αἰώνιον βάρος δόξης)

Rev., more and more exceedingly an eternal weight, etc. An expression after the form of Hebrew superlatives, in which the emphatic word is twice repeated. Lit., exceedingly unto excess. The use of such cumulative expressions is common with Paul. See, for example, Phi 1:23, lit., much more better; Rom 8:37, abundantly the conquerors; Eph 3:20, exceeding abundantly, etc. Note how the words are offset: for a moment, eternal; light, weight; affliction, glory.
Vincent Ephesians 3:21
(21) to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
Glory Properly, the glory, which is His due.
In the Church
Through which His many-tinted wisdom is to be displayed, and which is His fullness. The variety of the divine wisdom is again hinted at in all that we ask or think.
By Christ Jesus (ἐν)

Rev., better, in. As the Church is the outward domain in which God is to be praised, so Christ is the spiritual sphere of this praise.
Throughout all ages, world without end (εἰς πάσας τὰς γενεὰς τοῦ αἰῶνος τῶν αἰώνων)

Lit., unto all the generations of the age of the ages. Eternity is made up of ages, and ages of generations.
 
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If everyone will be saved, there is no point in living as a Christian.

Why is that? Wouldn't you want to avoid a million or trillion years in hell?

7 Myths About Universalism
7 Myths About Universalism

Minimal Statement of Faith for Evangelical Universalists
Statement of Faith -- Please Read


Have you been decieved by your Bible translation?

For the Lord will NOT cast off FOR EVER:

Augustine's ignorance & error re Matthew 25:46

Church Fathers & Universalism since Early Church times
 
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Again with the false links/doctrines contrary to Scripture and already proven untrue centuries ago, and every year since then,
as YHWH'S WORD never changes.
The worldly church keeps growing in wickedness, promoting all kind of false teachings, as it seeks not to save, but to destroy the souls of billions of humans and their families.

As Jesus Says - they will cross an ocean and a desert to convert one,
then that one becomes twice as bad as they are.... (Jesus uses more vulgar language not approved for the forum here) .....
 
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Jesus will eventually save everyone. This is at the core of the Gospel.
I started to answer your questions but stopped as I saw the logical fallacy of the questions. If universal salvation is true, then why are you telling us who know we are already saved? This seems a lot like the those who believe in vaccinations. If vaccinations actually work, then those who are vaccinated do not need to be concerned if others are not. But, it seems to me, in both cases the proponents of universal salvation and vaccinations don't really believe it so they try to convince everyone else it is true to bolster their own flagging resolve.
 
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Jesus didn't call it flagging resolve - no, much worse than that in both cases:
He called society "pernicious" meaning not only death dealing, but seeking to drag everyone down all around them even not associated with them - not willing to let anyone escape alive if they can prevent their salvation. (by preventing them from turning to YHWH to be healed/ saved/ redeemed)

There may be some naivete in new ones, not realizing what they are espousing, thus our prayers and hopes and petititions to YHWH along with JESUS' prayers is that some might be saved "as though by fire"(or from fire), being necessarily very cautious not to be dragged down in the pit with false teachings ourselves by the deceitfulness of sin and false teachings promoted throughout the world , and led by dark spiritual forces in high places (on earth/ leaders/ teachers/ governments/ religions ) ..... a very very dark battle indeed and in truth, as most of the world never finds the narrow road to LIFE! (JESUS HIMSELF! )
 
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Not by ALL Scripture though.... as long as all the OP states (or you or anyone else),
is contrary to even one Scripture, it is false.
For universal theories, they have to ignore many Scriptures, in order to protect the false doctrines.
You wrote, "Did you know it is contrary to ALL SCRIPTURE?"....and I responded with a list of passages that are in complete line with what the OP stated--so what is a person to do with all those passages? I can turn your statement around and state (using your logic) that what you're saying is false because it's contrary to many passages in the Bible.

Once a person changes the paradigm they view Scripture through.....it ALL fits together (there's no need to ignore anything).
 
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I have been involved in discussions of the meaning of aion and aionios on this forum for more than 1.5 decades. . Here is something I have researched in the NT.
In the following twenty two verses αἰών and αἰώνιος are defined/described by other words and phrases as eternal, everlasting etc.: 1 Timothy 1:17, 2 Corinthians 4:17-18, 2 Corinthians 5:1, Hebrews 7:24, 1 Peter 1:23, 1 Timothy 6:16, Galatians 6:8, John 6:58, John 10:20, 1 John 2:17, 1 Peter 5:10, Romans 2:7, Luke 1:33, Revelation 14:11, John 10:28, John 3:15, John 3:16, John 5:24, Ephesians 3:21, Romans 20:1, Romans 26:10.

In the NT “aion/aionios” are used to refer to things which are not eternal but are never defined/described as meaning a period of time less than eternal as in the following verses.

[1]1 Timothy 1:17.
(17) Now unto the King eternal, [αἰών/aion] immortal, [ ̓́αφθαρτος/aphthartos] invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever [αἰών/aion] and ever [αἰώνιος/aionios]. Amen.
In this verse “aion” is paired with “immortal.” “Aion” cannot mean “age(s),” a finite period and be immortal at the same time. Thus “aion” by definition here means “eternal.”
[2]2 Corinthians 4:17-18
(17) For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] weight of glory;
(18) While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal;[πρόσκαιρος/proskairos] but the things which are not seen are eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios]
In this passage “aionios” is contrasted with “for a moment,” vs. 4, and “temporal,” vs. 5. “Age(s)” a finite period, it is not the opposite of “for a moment”/”temporal/temporary.” “Eternal” is. See Robertson below. “Aionios” by definition here means “eternal.”
[3]2 Corinthians 5:1
(1)For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] in the heavens.
In this verse “aionios house” is contrasted with “earthly house which is destroyed.” If an “aionios” house is at some time destroyed then it is no different than the earthly house. The aionios house is not destroyed, the opposite of “is destroyed.” Thus “aionios” by definition here means “eternal.” If the tabernacle in heaven is destroyed, it is no different than the earthly tabernacle.
[4]Hebrews 7:24 but because Jesus lives forever [αἰών/aion] he has a permanent [ἀπαράβατος/aparabatos] priesthood.
In this verse “aion” is paired with “unchangeable.” If “aion” means “age(s),” Jesus cannot continue “for a finite period” and be “unchangeable” at the same time. Thus “aion” by definition here means “eternal.”
[5]1 Peter 1:23
(23) For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, [ ̓́αφθαρτος/aphthartos] through the living and enduring word of God.
1 Peter 1:25
(25) but the word of the Lord endures forever.[αἰών/aion] " And this is the word that was preached to you.
In verse 23 “word of God” is paired with “incorruptible.” In verse 25 the word of God “endures εις τον αιωνα unto eternity. ” Thus by definition “aion” here means “eternity.”
[6]1 Timothy 6:16
(16) Who only hath immortality, [ ̓́αφθαρτος/aphthartos] dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting[αἰώνιος/aionios]
In this verse “aionios” is paired with “immortality.” If “aionios” is only a finite period, God cannot be “immortal” and only exist for a finite period at the same time. Thus “aionios” by definition means “eternal.”
[7]Galatians 6:8
(8) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption;[φθορά/fthora] but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. [αἰώνιος/aionios]
In this verse “aionios” is contrasted with “corruption.” “Fleshly” people reap “corruption” but spiritual people reap “life aionios,” i.e. not “corruption.” “Age(s) is not opposite of “corruption.” Thus “aionios” by definition here means “eternal/everlasting.”
[8]John 6:58
(58) This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.[αἰώνιος/aionios]
In this verse “aionios life” is contrasted with “death.” If “aionios” is only a finite period, a finite period is not opposite “death.” Thus “aionios” by definition here means “eternal.”
[9]John 10:28
(28) I give them eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] life, and they shall never [αἰών/aion] perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
Here “aionios” and “aion” are paired with not “snatch them out of my hand” If “aion/aionios” means “age(s)” that is not the opposite of “not ‘snatch them out of my hand’” “Aionios” by definition here means “eternal.”
[10]1 John 2:17
(17) The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever. [αἰών/aion]
In this verse “aionios” is contrasted with “pass away” “aionios” cannot mean a finite period, A “finite period” is not opposite of “pass away.” Thus “aionios” by definition here means “eternal.”
[11]1 Peter 5:10
(10) And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal [αιωνιον/aionion] glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, [ολιγον/oligon] will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
In this verse “aionios” is contrasted with “little while” “aionios” cannot mean a finite period, A “finite period” is not opposite of “little while.” Thus by definition “aionios” here means “eternal.”
[12]Romans 2:7
(7) To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, [ἀφθαρσία/apftharsia] he will give eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] life.
In this verse “aion” is paired with “immortality.” If “aion” is only a finite period, believers cannot seek for “a finite period,” and “immortality” at the same time. But they can seek for “eternal life” and “immortality” at the same time. Thus by definition “aion” here means “eternal.”
[13]Luke 1:33
(33) And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; [αιωνας/aionas] and of his kingdom there shall be no end.[τελος/τελος]
In this verse “aionios” is paired with “without end.” “aionios” cannot be paired with “without end” if it means only “ages” a finite period. “Aionios” by definition here means eternal.
[14]Revelation 14:11
(11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:[εις αιωνας αιωνων/eis aionas aionas] and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
In this verse “aionas aionon torment” is paired with “no rest day or night.” If “aionas, aionon” means “a finite period” at some time they would rest, “Aionas, aionon” by definition here means “forever and forever.”
[15]John 10:28
(28) And I give unto them eternal [αιωνιον] life; and they shall never [εις τον αιωνα] perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
In this verse “aionion” is paired with “[no man can] “pluck them out of my hand.” If “aionion” is only a finite period then at some time they could be plucked out. “Aionion” by definition here means eternal.
[16]John 3:15
(15) That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal [αιωνιον] life.
In this verse “aionion” is paired with “shall not perish.” They could perish in a finite period, “aionion” by definition here means eternal.
[17]John 3:16
(16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting [αιωνιον] life.
In this verse “aionion” is paired with “shall not perish.” They could perish in a finite period, “aionion” by definition here means eternal.
[18]John 5:24
(24) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting [αἰώνιος] life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
In this verse “aionios” is paired with “shall not come into condemnation” and “passed from life unto death.” “Aionios” does not mean “a finite period,” by definition here it means “eternal.”
[19]Romans 5:21
(21) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal [αἰώνιος] life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
In this verse “aionios” is contrasted with death. “A finite period” is not opposite death, “eternal life” is. “Aionios” by definition here means ‘eternal.”
[20]Ephesians 3:21
(21) to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever [του αιωνος/tou aionios] and ever! [των αιωνων/ton aionion] Amen.
In this verse “tou aionios ton aionion” is paired with “throughout all generations.” "Age(s)" a finite period cannot refer to "all generations."
[21]Romans 1:20
(20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal [ἀΐ́διος] power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
[22]Romans 16:26
(26) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting [αἰώνιος] God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
In Romans 1:20 Paul refers to God’s power and Godhead as “aidios.” Scholars agree “aidios” unquestionably means eternal, everlasting, unending etc. In Rom 16:26 Paul refers to God as “aionios,” therefore Paul considers “aidios” and “aionios” to be synonymous.
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• A. T. Robertson, Word Pictures in the New Testament 2 Co 4:17
(17) For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;
Literally, “the for the moment (old adverb parautika, here only in N.T.) lightness (old word, in N.T. only here and Mat_11:30).”
More and more exceedingly (kath' huperbolēn eis huperbolēn). Like piling Pelion on Ossa, “according to excess unto excess.” See note on 1Co 12:31.
Eternal weight of glory (aiōnion baros doxēs). Careful balancing of words in contrast (affliction vs. glory, lightness vs. weight, for the moment vs. eternal).
• Vincent Word Studies in the New Testament
A far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory (καθ' ὑπερεβολὴν εἰς ὑπερβολὴν αἰώνιον βάρος δόξης)

Rev., more and more exceedingly an eternal weight, etc. An expression after the form of Hebrew superlatives, in which the emphatic word is twice repeated. Lit., exceedingly unto excess. The use of such cumulative expressions is common with Paul. See, for example, Phi 1:23, lit., much more better; Rom 8:37, abundantly the conquerors; Eph 3:20, exceeding abundantly, etc. Note how the words are offset: for a moment, eternal; light, weight; affliction, glory.
Vincent Ephesians 3:21
(21) to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
Glory Properly, the glory, which is His due.
In the Church
Through which His many-tinted wisdom is to be displayed, and which is His fullness. The variety of the divine wisdom is again hinted at in all that we ask or think.
By Christ Jesus (ἐν)

Rev., better, in. As the Church is the outward domain in which God is to be praised, so Christ is the spiritual sphere of this praise.
Throughout all ages, world without end (εἰς πάσας τὰς γενεὰς τοῦ αἰῶνος τῶν αἰώνων)

Lit., unto all the generations of the age of the ages. Eternity is made up of ages, and ages of generations.

You need to do further research:

Rom_16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
 
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I started to answer your questions but stopped as I saw the logical fallacy of the questions. If universal salvation is true, then why are you telling us who know we are already saved? This seems a lot like the those who believe in vaccinations. If vaccinations actually work, then those who are vaccinated do not need to be concerned if others are not. But, it seems to me, in both cases the proponents of universal salvation and vaccinations don't really believe it so they try to convince everyone else it is true to bolster their own flagging resolve.

The message is for everyone.
 
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You wrote, "Did you know it is contrary to ALL SCRIPTURE?"....and I responded with a list of passages that are in complete line with what the OP stated--so what is a person to do with all those passages?

Once a person changes the paradigm they view Scripture through.....it ALL fits together (there's no need to ignore anything).
ALL Scripture, in YHWH'S Perfect Plan and Purpose and Salvation in Jesus is all together whole, in complete and total HARMONY with YHWH.

By taking away true faith not trusting in YHWH and not relying on HIM and not repenting of sin,
all the enemy has left is false teachings and dangerous quicksand not built on anything solid.

They don't reject just a little of God's Word, but all of it, and God's Sovereignty also.

The whole Plan of Salvation is undone by them, not just "a little", all because of unbelief.

And that is what they teach little ones who succumb to their patter: DON'T TRUST YHWH, DON't TRUST YHWH'S WORD, DON'T TRUST YESHUA,
for
if they trusted YHWH, if they relied on the absolute faithfulness and truth of HIS WORD,
if they followed Yeshua,
they could not participate in union with darkness destroying men's souls.

Just like the scribes and pharisees who put Jesus to death, just as they used Scripture to try to justify their actions and their lives, even though they stayed enemies of YHWH and of JESUS,
so also the perpetrators who persuade little ones or grown ups not to repent, not to be saved while they can, before it is too late.

Not only does a little leaven leaven the whole loaf,
but when the loaf is all together bad, everyone who partakes of it suffers terribly.
 
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Again, think or ask God to reveal the evil origin of the heresies that were exposed for what they were centuries ago, no matter if other or even many others succumbed to them and lost their souls.
The origin starts outside of God, and continues outside of God, and keeps others from repenting so that they remain outside of God, whether witting or unwittingly,
thus leading to the death and destruction and the loss of many souls, for which God will hold them responsible.
 
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Lamentations 3:22 and 3:31-33, The steadfast love of the Lord NEVER ceases, his mercies NEVER come to an end. . . .
Lam.3:31 For the Lord will NOT cast off FOR EVER:
32 For if He causes grief, Then He will have compassion According to His abundant lovingkindness. 33 For He does not afflict willingly Or grieve the SONS OF MEN.…


Christian universalism--Ultimate Reconcilation: The True "Good News" Gospel of the Bible

Unique Proof For Christian, Biblical Universalism

Universalism – The Truth Shall Make You Free

Eternity in the Bible by Gerry Beauchemin – Hope Beyond Hell
 
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ALL Scripture, in YHWH'S Perfect Plan and Purpose and Salvation in Jesus is all together whole, in complete and total HARMONY with YHWH.
I agree.

So what are you going to do with the passages I quoted (as they are contrary to what you're stating....and by your own logic, are thus proving your understanding as "false").

Edited: This seems to be His plan:

"For he must remain in heaven until the time for the final restoration of all things, as God promised long ago through his holy prophets."~Acts 3:31


2 Peter 3:9; "The Lord isn’t slow to keep his promise, as some think of slowness, but he is patient toward you, not wanting anyone to perish but all to change their hearts and lives."
By taking away true faith not trusting in YHWH and not relying on HIM and not repenting of sin,
all the enemy has left is false teachings and dangerous quicksand not built on anything solid.
No one is asserting a lack of "true faith" so you can remove that from discussion. Universal Restoration/Reconciliation is allowing for the free will of each and every person to eventually--on their own---come to complete faith in God.
 
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Jesus will eventually save everyone. This is at the core of the Gospel.

Ask yourself this:

1.) Who creates Life?
2.) Who does everything with a purpose?
3.) Who never fails?
4.) Who gets what He desires?
5.) Who desires that none should be lost forever?
6.) Who desires that all should be saved?
7.) Who will is greater - man or God?
8.) Can God persuade?
9.) Can God fail to persuade?
10.) Does God have the power to save everyone?

No Jesus will not save everyone , moreover when he returns to rescue Jews his garmet is coveret from top to bottom with blood because he is kinsman redeemer - he can rescue but most people forgot the most important role of kinsman redeemer , that he is avenger of blood . Jews had no prisons it was kinsman job to avenge blood and kill . In tribulation grace is gone and Jesus will slay them all who want to destroy Israel :p
 
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Universal Restoration/Reconciliation is allowing for the free will of each and every person to eventually--on their own---come to complete faith in God.
This, again, and still, is an abomination to YHWH and His Word, totally contrary to His Plan and effectively claiming the GOSPEL of CHRIST CRUCIFIED is null and void if believed.
Do you and they not realize the BLOOD OF JESUS was an infinitely unimaginable preciousness and price beyond all comprehension to pay for man's sin !?
And when GOD SAYS CLEARLY : there remains NO MORE sacrifice for their sin,
then there remains NO MORE sacrifice for their sin! (this can never be changed at all nor altered as required for the heresy to work).

Thus the heresy is anti-Gospel, and cannot be remedied with any amount of Scripture or doctrines or dogma or discussion or faith or hope or love or anything at all - NOTHING can change God's Word concerning the BLOOD OF JESUS/ the MESSAGE OF CHRIST CRUCIFIED and
the NO MORE sacrifice for their sin , NO MORE way to the FATHER for them. NO, none at all as YHWH clearly SAYS throughout all His Word without exception and with no escape clause for the false teachings to sneak in (as if they could).

Without the BLOOD OF JESUS, no one after trampling the BLOOD underfoot, no one after dying, will be atoned for, no one's sins will be forgiven, and everyone will have to die for their own sin, if they put the Grace of God in Jesus to such shame and rejected it while alive. Period.
 
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"Who hath bewitched you...." ... remember the warning, severe warning, to prevent the falling away following a false gospel in Galatians ?
They could have "looked" 'perfect' in almost every way (thus deceiving those they could later), but had a false gospel clearly described by the messengers of YHWH preaching Christ Crucified.

Like being on a giant ocean liner that has everything "in place",
only to find a gaping hole in the hull under water,
or to find that it is going into an ice flow instead of into safe water.
No matter how good a false doctrine/ false teaching looks,
it cannot help anyone,
and there is NO reason to even entertain it.
(and every reason NOT to; as YHWH Says not to even invite anyone teaching a false /another/ gospel to a meal nor to greet them, lest you take part in their sin and are judged as they are by YHWH. )
 
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Why not? Explain.
Because if all get saved, those who are obedient and those who aren't, those who repent and those who don't, then there's no point of any rules to begin with.

If all are going to be saved, then that means there's no danger of a punishment that we would need salvation from.

There's too many verses that say the sexually immoral will not inherit the kingdom, drunkards will not inherit the kingdom, etc.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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totally contrary to His Plan and effectively claiming the GOSPEL of CHRIST CRUCIFIED is null and void if believed.
...and which plan is that (because I've already posted a plan directly from Scripture that is in line with that?

Without the BLOOD OF JESUS
.....we don't have to worry about that, though. Because we *have* "the blood of Jesus".
 
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...and which plan is that (because I've already posted a plan directly from Scripture that is in line with that?


.....we don't have to worry about that, though. Because we *have* "the blood of Jesus".
Whoever has the blood of Jesus , then tramples it underfoot, as written, no longer has the blood of Jesus, and dies without hope , and without mercy, and without any sacrifice remaining for their sin.

So never, never, no never trample under foot the blood of Christ Crucified ! It can NEVER< no NEVER, be replaced.
 
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