1. IN 1 john 2:1 it says sin not but then says "if ye sin"
in other words it's possible to sin again after being saved...one just has to seek forgiveness.
1John 2:1. Is addressing "little children".
Are you among the little children just learning about God and need to be told to not Sin and need to be told you might still Sin while you are learning because you are not yet Saved?
IOW it is possible to Sin While a person is first learning About God Before they commit to conversion.
The disciples learning about Jesus Sinned every time they doubted and Denied Jesus...
But that changed ONCE they became Saved and Converted.
2. Again i'm still waiting for a scripture that supports OSAS though... when are you going to post one?
It is the Transgression of Disbelief in God that IS mans Sin Againt God.
It is mans Disbelief that corrupts the Whole of a man, body, soul & spirit.
It is ONLY the Lord Himself Who forgives Sin Against Him.
It is ONLY the Lord Himself Who transforms a mans body To being Dead with Christ, the mans soul restored &
receiving a new spirit from Gods Seed.
This IS Gods Way, His method that IS acceptable TO HIM for a man to be converted & Freed From Sin.
Such a man Can No longer Sin.
Such a man IS Born OF God.
Such a man IS a son OF God.
1 John 3:9
3. No brother.....we are more a like then you think. We both agree...that it's possible not to sin....but we disagree on the notion that one can if they want to choose to sin and leave God.
No.
You believe it is possible to not Sin.
I do not believe "possibility" to Sin or to not Sin is part of the equation.
ONCE "possibly" enters the equation, it becomes a matter of choice.
I have heard others debate on the "possibility" equation before concerning
Jesus, saying it was possible for Him to Sin, but He chose not to Sin, which Is Ludicrous!
That which IS Born OF God CAN NOT Sin.
There are Zero choices or possibilities in the matter.
The Word of God, IS God Himself, being He own Word coming forth out of His Mouth And Speaking His Creations Into Existance.
So also With His Word IS His supreme Power that causes His spoken Word To be Effected.
Gen 1 informs you
God SAID and His Spirit effected what He Said.
Other Scriptures inform you
Gods Spirit IS His Power
Gods Word He Named Jesus
Gods Power He Named Christ
Gods Word a man learns and Believes Is the "beginning" of a mans faith.
Not a commitment but A beginning.
Any man can begin anything without a commitment.
This are those Who begin and Then Fall Away.
Precisely It is the Uncommited Who absolutely Can continue to Sin, Stop Believing, and Fall Away.
Men can even Make commitments To marriages, sign Contracts And Then BREAK their Commitment.
That Is a WEAKNESS of a man.
Not a secret. Men are WEAK. They have not the Power to Keep their Word. And No Earthly born man Is an Exception to that fact.
Then you need to know Why men ARE weak.
A mans Weakness Is Because
A man does NOT know All Things.
Men commit to marriages not knowing their spouse may be a lying, cheating scoundrel or agree to a contract not knowing they may lose their job and can not pay for all the commitments they contractually agreed to pay for.
A "commitment" a man makes TO God is NOT
With HOPE he will keep TRUE to his commitment. It is NOT with POSSIBILITY the man will Fail To Keep His commitment.
Why?
Because The Commitment is NOT effected and Kept TRUE BY the power of man!
Any man that HAS committed his Life TO God, IS KEPT TRUE and Faithful To God ONLY "BY"
Gods Supreme Power.
Gods Power forgives a mans Sin, reconciles the man, and BY God making the man Whole, the man is Not capable of ever Sinning Again.
And WHY such a man IS FREED From Sin.
1 john 2:1 points clearly that it's possible to not sin after repenting ni 1 john 1 but it also indicates that it's possible to sin when it says "if you sin".
Are you a Jew, who for centuries have sinned and then held your yearly traditions and festivals to become forgiven your sins ?
I'm not. Are you a Jew learning you have an Advocate in Jesus who can Forgive you sins ONCE and for all ?
I'm not.
Did Jesus Destroy or somehow Repeal all of the Laws and traditions of Jewish Laws?
No He didn't.
Scriptures are not Only For OR About Christians.
Scriptures Include Applicability To every earthy born person.
If you comprehend THAT... then you like every individual should KNOW which Scriptures APPLY to You and which Scriptures
DO NOT APPLY to you.
Because if is utilized me and you can both agree which we do...that it's possible to not sin. But "if" also implies it can/could happen.
IF does NOT APPLY to me.
Gods Power IS with me which supersedes the possibility of IF.
Again i'm just going off bible verses...i'm waiting for you to do that also...
Again learn which Scriptures APPLY to you and WHY and then learn which Scriptures do not apply to you and WHY the don't.
Scriptures are full of IF'S.
If you do such n such Then such n such SHALL be.
I don't know what you have done.
However I do know what I have done.
I trust The Word of God is True and when His Word says IF I do such n such Then such is what He SHALL do I trust that is then accomplishED.
I trust because of what I have chosen to do that God has accomplished making me Wholly Whole, Sanctified and wholly acceptable unto Him.
Am I wholly acceptable to all men ?
Not by a long shot.
Does it matter?
No.
I have no requirement to commit myself or be faithful to all other men.
I simply am commanded to love all men and treat them justly and works I do in the Lords Name ARE expressly to be works that Glorify His great Names.
1 John 3:9
Applies to me. Though I am Weak I have committed my life To The Lord and His Power has reconciled me wholly unto Him that I am FREED From Sin and Sin no more, BY His great Word and Power which is forever with and in me.
God Bless,
SBC