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U of T profs alarmed by Jordan Peterson's plan to target classes he calls 'indoctrination cults'

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IOW, the people Peterson is targeting, and rightfully so, are unhappy about it. Good. The leftist, marxist contingent of academia has done deep harm to our society and culture. It is a crime that people go tens of thousands into debt to get degrees that aren't worth the paper they're printed on, and only come out of "Higher Learning" even more moronic than they were when they went in.

They really do sound like the enemy, don't they?
 
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By making me into their enemy, yes, they have made an enemy out of me.

Ah, so they did it to you first... I see.

What could you possibly have done that they all misconstrued so badly?
 
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Ah, so they did it to you first... I see.

What could you possibly have done that they all misconstrued so badly?

I don't know. What was the pretty girl wearing when she was raped?

Here's what I did. I disagreed with them. They call me islamoxenabigaphobacist. And then I voted Trump. They call me a Nazi. Then they say it's ok to punch Nazis. And then we see antifa starting riots over college speakers. The source of division in this country is from the left.
 
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Here's what I did. I disagreed with them. They call me islamoxenabigaphobacist. And then I voted Trump. They call me a Nazi. Then they say it's ok to punch Nazis. And then we see antifa starting riots over college speakers. The source of division in this country is from the left.

Once upon a time progressives - the label many use - have quoted and lived by: I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

I think their movement has been hijacked, because the name calling, labeling, and violence? Is against the progressive thought. Progressive's tend to tell you their rationale, and these groups today can't. As with any movement you always had a couple of nutters that had to strike out with violence. The violent ones are the individuals that are taking over - in many cases, and if you listen to them are more active due to 'feelings' and not rationale. You can't lead a movement over feelings - they are to fluid, and in some cases you see them eating their own because of that.

It reminds me of the group of school bullies. People avoid them because they are NOT safe, and they will use force to get people to bend to their ways. Today? They want to give the impression that they are the 'popular' crowd, and will use name calling and intimidation if you dare to disagree that they are NOT correct with their line of thinking. They tend to project their own actions/thought process onto others. When they call people Nazi? Their actions tend to have those characteristics to shut people down. lol they scream about authoritarianism? Yet, never recognize their portray that themselves.

They claim they are standing up against some form of evil, and then act evil themselves. They don't need to use persuasive thought. They just do their bully thing, and then lol chant against bullying. It seems to me they want to turn into the bully they claim to hate. Then get frustrated when they are NOT listened to, or taken seriously - their group think.

I honestly think the left are afraid of them. Our country does best when we have two healthy sides of the debate, but that is NOT the case today.

It will get worse when they can't find jobs, because no one will want someone like that working for them. When they can't pay back their loans, because employers need employees that help advance the company - not protest, threaten, and break things. Sadly, this will implode and get worse.
 
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Once upon a time progressives - the label many use - have quoted and lived by: I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

I think their movement has been hijacked, because the name calling, labeling, and violence? Is against the progressive thought. Progressive's tend to tell you their rationale, and these groups today can't. As with any movement you always had a couple of nutters that had to strike out with violence. The violent ones are the individuals that are taking over - in many cases, and if you listen to them are more active due to 'feelings' and not rationale. You can't lead a movement over feelings - they are to fluid, and in some cases you see them eating their own because of that.

It reminds me of the group of school bullies. People avoid them because they are NOT safe, and they will use force to get people to bend to their ways. Today? They want to give the impression that they are the 'popular' crowd, and will use name calling and intimidation if you dare to disagree that they are NOT correct with their line of thinking. They tend to project their own actions/thought process onto others. When they call people Nazi? Their actions tend to have those characteristics to shut people down. lol they scream about authoritarianism? Yet, never recognize their portray that themselves.

They claim they are standing up against some form of evil, and then act evil themselves. They don't need to use persuasive thought. They just do their bully thing, and then lol chant against bullying. It seems to me they want to turn into the bully they claim to hate. Then get frustrated when they are NOT listened to, or taken seriously - their group think.

I honestly think the left are afraid of them. Our country does best when we have two healthy sides of the debate, but that is NOT the case today.

It will get worse when they can't find jobs, because no one will want someone like that working for them. When they can't pay back their loans, because employers need employees that help advance the company - not protest, threaten, and break things. Sadly, this will implode and get worse.

I've heard a lot will find jobs in the government because they're the only ones who will hire someone with a useless liberal arts degree. Yay...imagine your cps filled with these people, all ready to check yo privilege!

Their behavior is what has driven moderate, slightly left leaning centrists into full blown nationalists. They simply can not be allowed to win.
 
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The point was and is that there is far more to attractiveness than physical appearances.

Alright...but you are aware that an overwhelming number of people can find someone sexually/physically attractive without ever having spoken to them?
 
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Alright...but you are aware that an overwhelming number of people can find someone sexually/physically attractive without ever having spoken to them?

But of course -- and when you stare at such a person, making sure they see the "man, I'd love to tear me off a piece of that!" written all over your face, what affect do you think that has?
 
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But of course -- and when you stare at such a person, making sure they see the "man, I'd love to tear me off a piece of that!" written all over your face, what affect do you think that has?

I'm sure I have no idea...nor can I imagine why you'd think I stare at women with whatever expression you're talking about.
 
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I'm sure I have no idea...nor can I imagine why you'd think I stare at women with whatever expression you're talking about.

I didn't say "women," and yet you assumed (in spite of protests that women behave similarly towards men) that that was all I was referring to.

My point is made for me again.
 
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I didn't say "women," and yet you assumed (in spite of protests that women behave similarly towards men) that that was all I was referring to.

You said...

when you stare at such a person, making sure they see the "man, I'd love to tear me off a piece of that!" written all over your face...

You're talking about me personally and I'm only attracted to women...what else should I assume you meant?

My point is made for me again.

If you've got some point beyond parading your own ignorance for everyone...I've yet to see it. I suppose as a last resort you could just say whatever it is you're trying to say.
 
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I don't know. What was the pretty girl wearing when she was raped?

Here's what I did. I disagreed with them. They call me islamoxenabigaphobacist.

That's got to be worth a lot in a Scrabble game.

And then I voted Trump. They call me a Nazi. Then they say it's ok to punch Nazis. And then we see antifa starting riots over college speakers. The source of division in this country is from the left.

Yes, yes -- they are the source of all that's wrong in America, which is why they must be stamped out from academia utterly.

I've heard this rant before -- twice, from both sides.
 
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You're talking about me personally and I'm only attracted to women...what else should I assume you meant?

Ah, my bad -- you see, I never checked your profile, and with the name "Ana," up until now I assumed that you were a woman.

Mea Culpa. :sorry:
 
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Ah, my bad -- you see, I never checked your profile, and with the name "Ana," up until now I assumed that you were a woman.

Mea Culpa. :sorry:

Lol no....all this time?

Edit- did you imagine me as a particularly contentious/quarrelsome woman?
 
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That's got to be worth a lot in a Scrabble game.



Yes, yes -- they are the source of all that's wrong in America, which is why they must be stamped out from academia utterly.

I've heard this rant before -- twice, from both sides.

In the Illuminati Card Game, it's known as the 'Bamboozling Offensive"

You can trivialize it all you want. But you have 2 growing factions pitting themselves towards a civil war. And the instigating factor is the regressive/progressive, post modernist, ethical and cultural relativist, neo-Marxist, open borders, islamophilic, globalist left that is instigating the current culture war, which will inevitably progress into civil war once enough lines have been drawn and crossed. I'd like to prevent that. But if not, I know which side I can stand seeing win, and which side I absolutely can not abide winning this culture war.
 
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In the Illuminati Card Game, it's known as the 'Bamboozling Offensive"

You can trivialize it all you want. But you have 2 growing factions pitting themselves towards a civil war. And the instigating factor is the regressive/progressive, post modernist, ethical and cultural relativist, neo-Marxist, open borders, islamophilic, globalist left that is instigating the current culture war, which will inevitably progress into civil war once enough lines have been drawn and crossed. I'd like to prevent that. But if not, I know which side I can stand seeing win, and which side I absolutely can not abide winning this culture war.

I think you're blowing this out of proportion. The hippie movement was bigger than this...and it died out all the same. Kids can protest all they like...but eventually they'll have to realize that they can't whine and complain their way into a living.

Once you got a job...you're as much a part of the "problem" as everyone else.
 
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Lol no....all this time?

Edit- did you imagine me as a particularly contentious/quarrelsome woman?

Yea, I always took you for a chick too.

You've been misgendered by a lot of people, for a lot of years.

I think you're blowing this out of proportion. The hippie movement was bigger than this...and it died out all the same. Kids can protest all they like...but eventually they'll have to realize that they can't whine and complain their way into a living.

Once you got a job...you're as much a part of the "problem" as everyone else.

This assumes these people will get jobs in the free market and that the free market will not be bullied into catering them. They just forced a black female diversity VP at Apple to step down at the end of the year for wrong think. James Demore and the google memo ring a bell?

If our salvation is to come from Corporate America, then our goose is thoroughly cooked.
 
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Yea, I always took you for a chick too.

You've been misgendered by a lot of people, for a lot of years.

Did you used to go by another name?



This assumes these people will get jobs in the free market and that the free market will not be bullied into catering them. They just forced a black female diversity VP at Apple to step down at the end of the year for wrong think. James Demore and the google memo ring a bell?

If our salvation is to come from Corporate America, then our goose is thoroughly cooked.

Nonsense...companies can play at diversity all they like...all that matters is competence. If a company doesn't hire the best and brightest...then those applicants go elsewhere...and the company suffers for it. They can diversify to a point, simply for public relations, but eventually they'll have to hire those who are capable.
 
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