Confessing Sin!

[ConvictionofGod]

Jeremiah 25:4,5 - A typical summary of the message of the Old Testament prophets: "Repent now everyone of his evil way and his evil doing..." [35:15; Ezekiel 18:30; 2 Kings 17:13]

Matthew 3:2 - John the Baptist taught, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!"

Mark 1:15 - Mark's summary of Jesus' message includes: "Repent, and believe in the gospel."

Luke 13:3 - Unless you repent you will all likewise perish.

Mark 6:12 - Jesus sent the apostles to preach that people should repent.

Acts 2:38 - In the first gospel sermon, Peter preached, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you for the remission of sins..."

Acts 17:30 - God commands all men everywhere to repent.

Revelation 3:19 - "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent."

those who studied the Bible and adhere to its scriptures come to agree that repentance is fundamental to Bible teaching.

 

[Strong in Him]

That's why he is called the accuser. The devil doesn't give a rip if you ever sin again, his job is to make you feel distant from God, make you believe that God is disappointed and angry with you over your "sin" and it will affect your relationship with Him and the devil likes that very, very much.

That's true - except I don't know why you put sin in inverted commas. I can't be perfect for 5 minutes - that is, perfect in thought, word, desire, dreams etc, never mind one day. To be honest I wouldn't want to. Not that I enjoy sinning, but the thought of waking up and saying "I'm perfect, I don't need my Saviour today" is too awful to contemplate.
As it is the devil's job to make us think that we can do it all on our own and don't need Jesus, there is only one place from which a thought like that could have come.

 

[StevenBelievin]

Greetings my brothers and sisters in Christ. I come to you in Love and in the power of the Holy Spirit. There is a issue in the church today that I need to address and i'm asking for your views (backed by scripture of course). After you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you like 2 Cor 5:17 states "Become new" do you still confess your sins to God seeking forgiveness? I know the truth, I just wanna see what others have to say on the topic....

Jesus' sacrifice was a once for all time thing. (Hebrews 10:10-14)

Once someone is born again, or regenerated as the Calvinists say, they are "In Him" or "In Christ"

1 John 3:5 says "In Him" there is no sin. And we're In Him.. Connect the dots.

Romans 6:14 states that we are not under law but under grace.

Romans 5:13 states that sin is not counted where there is no law.

And this grace in which we stand is the foundation and empowerment to live changed lives in the here and now. It's not by doing good or not doing bad, but walking by faith in the spirit. We already are a new creation and are completely forgiven, so out of that knowledge and revelation we can live that way. If you believe you don't have it and have to beg it out of God at every turn, then you will live that way. A beggar with a debtor's ethic.

 

[shaheem white]

I am a gigantic sinner. An adulterer.

I love God MASSIVELY and have repented for my sins, again and again. I will not let Jesus suffer for me without me going on blended knees and begging forgiveness for my failings.

If I fall, and i dearly pray I will never fall again, then I know that I can turn to Our Lord and repent deeply from my heart and ask for His forgiveness. He is full of Mercy and love.

'Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us

Jesus gave us this prayer. He knew we can fall. He knew we could turn to God and ask for forgiveness.

Don't let anyone trap you with false words saying that you need not worry if you sin because Jesus took our sins on the cross! We need to do our bit. We need to stand up to Our sins. We need to confess them and ask for forgiveness.

God bless you all.

Please, if your not going to listen to what is being said with all due respect PLease don't comment because your going off of the topic. God Bless you

 

[shaheem white]

That's true - except I don't know why you put sin in inverted commas. I can't be perfect for 5 minutes - that is, perfect in thought, word, desire, dreams etc, never mind one day. To be honest I wouldn't want to. Not that I enjoy sinning, but the thought of waking up and saying "I'm perfect, I don't need my Saviour today" is too awful to contemplate.
As it is the devil's job to make us think that we can do it all on our own and don't need Jesus, there is only one place from which a thought like that could have come.

Your not understanding saint! We are perfect "IN CHRIST" accepting him means you now live IN HIM! you are position IN CHRIST your position doesn't change. we receive that freely with our confession of faith. Everyday we are to walk in Christ and yes we do fall short but we trust in the power of the Holy spirit to help us overcome those areas and we thank God For the sacrifice of Jesus and for "BEING" forgiven. God Bless

 

[iwbswiaihl2]

That's true - except I don't know why you put sin in inverted commas. I can't be perfect for 5 minutes - that is, perfect in thought, word, desire, dreams etc, never mind one day. To be honest I wouldn't want to. Not that I enjoy sinning, but the thought of waking up and saying "I'm perfect, I don't need my Saviour today" is too awful to contemplate.
As it is the devil's job to make us think that we can do it all on our own and don't need Jesus, there is only one place from which a thought like that could have come.

One has to have peace of mind so I must respond as I believe and as scripture teaches me, the problem I see with this view and many I fellowship with at the church I go, they say the same thing you say, I say or have said to some of them, then tell me this, when you were lost is that not how you lived and thought then? When one is saved and they become new creations in Christ if there is no difference in my walk and thoughts and actions, I would not see that I am a new creation. Granted perfect holiness will never be reach I believe in this life except in Christ Jesus, but if there is no growth in a holy walk, I myself would be concerned and ask myself, why haven't I changed? Jesus did ask this important question in Luke 6:46 why call Me Lord, Lord and do not the things I say? I am not making a judgment concerning you or your profession, just stating the difference in our views. Have a great day.

 

[shaheem white]

It seems that the Dying on the cross had limited power.......and we need to make sure we do this and that so that its effectiveness remains.

Most believe Adam did one act....and the whole world has to do nothing to be totally affected and doomed by it.

Wouldn't this make the act of Adam, more powerful than the act of Jesus?

I like how you put this....

 

[shaheem white]

Shaheem, if I'm one of the ones being rude, I'm truly sorry. That's certainly not my intention. I raise these types of questions all the time - especially after my experience in my marriage to my husband, who is now a far better family man now that he lives a repentant lifestyle in Jesus Christ. His loose outlook on his "belief", sin, and forgiveness hurt the rest of us 5 in our household. The forgiveness he felt entitled to as a believer (without having a heart of repentance that is a somewhat reminder of how to live) enabled him to hurt those he loves. Because it's a misinterpretation of forgiveness. Our own repentant hearts when surrendered to the Spirit are reminders of how we are to live.

everyone is misunderstanding what i'm saying. Paul said shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? certainly no!!! how can we who died to sin live in it any longer. I am saying as a born agin believer we don't need to ask God for forgivness in a salvation since, because we are already saved by Grace and forgiven by the blood shed on the cross. I confess my sins every night but not asking for forgiveness "I am already forgiven" I confess to acknowledge them before God so He can know that I am not oblivious to my weak areas, I repent and I thank him for the sacrifice made for my sin and I thank him for his Holy Spirit which will guide and lead me away from those weak areas.

 

[Hillsage]

everyone is misunderstanding what i'm saying.

I've been 'following', and I do understand what you're saying. You just don't go deep enough to answer all the questions of those with equally 'lacking' points of view, concerning this whole topic IMO. So I have a question; When was the price of forgiveness, for any sin you commit today, 'paid for'? Was the price paid 2000 years ago, or is the 'price paid' when you confess today?

If the answer is YES!, 2000 years ago, then maybe we don't understand the biblical difference between being 'forgiven' and being 'saved'. There is a salvation for the eternal consequence for sin which was 'paid for'. But if, after accepting Jesus as BOTH SAVIOR and LORD, I then commit a sin, he is still my eternal savior but he is obviously not my temporal Lord. because your LORD and SAVIOR did not lead you to sin. The salvation we are 'working' on til the day we die, isn't to be eternally forgiven, it is to be saved from the temporal consequence of sin in this life....DEATH.

DEATH of your finances, marriage relationships, and fellowship with God. But your relationship with God can never change. If your spirit is born again, He is your Father eternally.

JAM 1:15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death.

I'll just stop with this and see if what I've shared makes sense to you.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Go boldly, not sniveling into the throne room.

Hebrews 4:16, Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

Be Savior conscience, not sin conscience.

It is on account of grace that we can approach God in boldness and with confidence--on Christ's account. But boldness does not mean arrogance. That I can approach God at all is because of His kindness toward me, a sinner; but I am still a sinner before a glorious and righteous God.

I am a wretch and a beggar, standing before God with nothing but empty hands; and it is His goodness and grace toward me that He wraps me in the white robe of Christ and His righteousness and declares that I--unworthy and wretch of a sinner that I am--am a beloved child and heir of salvation.

To know who and what I am in myself; and to know who and what I am in Christ are the two parts of being a Christian. To ever think that I am something apart from Christ is dangerous; because as Scripture says, our God is an all-consuming fire.

You may think in my saying this that I imagine God to be angry--but I don't. But He that is the burning inferno of gracious love and mercy is to be feared; to not tremble would be to forget Who He is.

"'Aslan is a lion--the Lion, the great Lion' 'Ooh' said Susan. 'I'd thought he was a man. Is he quite safe? I shall feel rather nervous about meeting a lion'...'Safe?' said Mr. Beaver ...'Who said anything about safe? 'Course he isn't safe. But he's good. He's the King, I tell you.'" - C.S. Lewis, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe

-CryptoLutheran

 

[StevenBelievin]

everyone is misunderstanding what i'm saying. Paul said shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? certainly no!!! how can we who died to sin live in it any longer. I am saying as a born agin believer we don't need to ask God for forgivness in a salvation since, because we are already saved by Grace and forgiven by the blood shed on the cross. I confess my sins every night but not asking for forgiveness "I am already forgiven" I confess to acknowledge them before God so He can know that I am not oblivious to my weak areas, I repent and I thank him for the sacrifice made for my sin and I thank him for his Holy Spirit which will guide and lead me away from those weak areas.

Exactly, and the word confess doesn't mean to ask forgiveness. It means to confess it (or bring it before Him), and come into agreement with Him that it is wrong and that with His strength it can and will be overcome. That's kind of how I see it anyway.

 

[iwbswiaihl2]

All i'm saying is that as a believer our forgiveness is based on our accepting Jesus and receiving Grace not on our day to confession. We are saved by Grace and not by our day to day confession.... now do I confess at night to God my sin "Yes" but not seeking forgiveness rather I confess ask him to help me in those areas then thank Him for the sacrifice and blood of Jesus which was shed for me and which sets me right with my God

I have commented and the first time there had already been 6 or 7 pages, and as I stated and you replied, I had to go back and have read all your comments now up to page 4 here at post #75 and now is the first time, I think, that you included the underlined words, and basically those are almost what I said with a few different words added or left out. My point, by adding these words we are in complete agreement, most that disagree seem to be taking offense at these words not having been as clear about the daily confession and thanking Him for His forgiveness. Of course, having been in the Lord for the last 42 years I know this for a fact, never have I ever included everything I believed in every conversation I have had, and sometimes someone would tell me what they didn't agree with on and after telling me the disagreement, I would say, but I believe that too. So to the point, it would help if others knew all our beliefs before and we knew theirs then I believe we would surely see there is little difference in what many of us believe. As my grandchildren say in this day and age, we should all learn to get over it. Thanks for being able to defend your beliefs. God looks at the heart. Sometimes I would like to show the difference in the 1 John 1 chapter as to why I would say that is indeed written to the believers, but don't want to be to long in this post. Have a great day. Closing with this that we may all agree we should do: Eph4:32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

 

[lettuce]

"I'm perfect, I don't need my Saviour today" is too awful to contemplate.

I have never contemplated it either but I do contemplate and believe I am perfect IN HIM.

 

[lettuce]

but I am still a sinner

Snively.

 

[Hillsage]

It is on account of grace that we can approach God in boldness and with confidence--on Christ's account. But boldness does not mean arrogance. That I can approach God at all is because of His kindness toward me, a sinner; but I am still a sinner before a glorious and righteous God.

I would say differently, based upon scripture. Perhaps you could provide some, for us to consider, for your opinion above. It isn't 'on account of grace that I can approach', it is on account of the fact that I NEED grace, that I approach the 'throne of grace'.

HEB 4:16 Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

1JO 3:21 Beloved, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God;

And the reason I approach the throne with confidence is not because of my 'weakness', but because of the strength/work of the one who earned the right to be my high priest. And it is He who intercedes for me as the mediator between man and God...JESUS.

HEB 4:15 For we have not a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.

I am a wretch and a beggar, standing before God with nothing but empty hands; and it is His goodness and grace toward me that He wraps me in the white robe of Christ and His righteousness and declares that I--unworthy and wretch of a sinner that I am--am a beloved child and heir of salvation.

I feel different, and am not a wretch and a beggar. Though I WAS a wretch according to scripture, I am no longer. And as far as being a beggar, one needs to know the definition of the Greek and discern as to whether or not you believe that means you 'ARE NOTHING' which is the lament of most, or whether you come to Him and say I 'HAVE NOTHING' to offer that He needs.

 

[St_Worm2]

i have no problem agreeing to disagree my brother. it's perfectly fine.. God Bless and thank you so much for your input

Hi Shaheem, I apologize, I should have said that I "normally" prefer to agree to disagree when I can around here, but where subjects like this one are concerned I cannot. I will not agree to disagree because in your attempts to conjure up Biblical support for this notion of yours you've had to deny both clear and undoubted didactic Biblical truth to do so.

You've also chosen to believe and teach something that not only stands in opposition to Biblical truth, it also stands opposed to the teaching of all of the churches/denominations within the pale of Christian orthodoxy as well (and what we have all taught for millennia now).

IOW, on this subject, you are dead wrong.

While I cannot agree to disagree, I will get off your back by leaving the thread however I, of course, wish you'd reconsider what you believe and are choosing to teach to others, but I'm pretty sure you already knew that.

Yours and His,
David
p.s. - I'm interested, and if you don't mind me asking, what church or denomination do you attend? And do they believe/teach what you do concerning confession/repentance/forgiveness? Thanks

 

[1stcenturylady]

We cannot stay in unrepentant sin, but we absolutely can sin.

Apostle Peter sinned with hypocrisy, and he's a pillar of the church. It's recorded in Galatians 2.

We are dead to sin, but still have free will. If we commit sin after receiving the Holy Spirit who is all powerful, that sin is rebellion.

 

[Andrew4jesus]

Greetings my brothers and sisters in Christ. I come to you in Love and in the power of the Holy Spirit. There is a issue in the church today that I need to address and i'm asking for your views (backed by scripture of course). After you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you like 2 Cor 5:17 states "Become new" do you still confess your sins to God seeking forgiveness? I know the truth, I just wanna see what others have to say on the topic....

If you already know the truth then why bother asking?

 

[Goatee]

Please, if your not going to listen to what is being said with all due respect PLease don't comment because your going off of the topic. God Bless you

Off topic? Because I don't agree with your own individual view?

Sorry but I will also stand by what I believe.

 

[Goatee]

Your not understanding saint! We are perfect "IN CHRIST" accepting him means you now live IN HIM! you are position IN CHRIST your position doesn't change. we receive that freely with our confession of faith. Everyday we are to walk in Christ and yes we do fall short but we trust in the power of the Holy spirit to help us overcome those areas and we thank God For the sacrifice of Jesus and for "BEING" forgiven. God Bless

Accepting Jesus and then trying to lead a completely sin free life is almost impossible! This is why Jesus gave us confession. He gave us a way to be forgiven.

He gave us the Our Father prayer!

Forgive us our trespasses....

He wants us to turn to Him when we fall and ask forgiveness.

One cannot and must not think that Jesus suffered and died so that we never have to go on bended knee and ask forgiveness for our sins!

God bless u buddy