Why no devil or demons for 2000 yrs?

[he-man]

Angels, both righteous and fallen, are invisible, incorporeal spirits.
The OP is engaging in the fallacy of begging the question. -CryptoLutheran

Luke 20:35-36 So you think those fallen spirits haved lived forever for 6000 years and now are no longer seen?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Luke 20:35-36 So you think those fallen spirits haved lived forever for 6000 years and now are no longer seen?

I don't think "those fallen spirits" were ever seen. That's what the words "invisible" and "incorporeal" mean.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[he-man]

I don't think "those fallen spirits" were ever seen. That's what the words "invisible" and "incorporeal" mean.
-CryptoLutheran

Matthew 16:23 he said Peter was one.

 

[Dave-W]

please expand .. What is this double standard you are talking about?

Believing in God whom no one has seen, but not believing in demons because they have not been seen.

 

[Hammster]

We have evidence that God exists but none that a devil exists.

What about God’s Word? Is that not evidence?

 

[Dave-W]

Angels, both righteous and fallen, are invisible, incorporeal spirits.

Not so fast. There were 3 angels (one of which turned out to be a theophany) that visited Abraham in Gen 18. The other 2 went on to visit Lot in Sodom and then called down fire to destroy the city. James says to be hospitable to strangers as we may be hosting "angels unawares."

That seems pretty visible and corporeal to me.

 

[he-man]

What about God’s Word? Is that not evidence?

Be more specific ! you mean like Peter? Matthew 16:23

 

[Hammster]

Be more specific !

Okay, specifically, if God’s word says that there are demons, should we consider that to be evidence?

 

[SBC]

Isn't it strange that no devils or demons have appeared for 2000 years? Have you seen any? If so, prove it; photos, documentation, etc.

How do you know they haven't?

God Bless,
SBC

 

[he-man]

How do you know they haven't?
God Bless,
SBC

Have you seen one? Perhaps you mean like Peter? Matthew 16:23

 

[he-man]

Okay, specifically, if God’s word says that there are demons, should we consider that to be evidence?

You mean like Peter? Matthew 16:23

 

[friend of]

This is not a claim that can be proven (or disproven)

 

[Hammster]

You mean like Peter? Matthew 16:23

I asked a question. Twice. Will you answer it, or will you just deflect?

 

[JoeP222w]

Isn't it strange that no devils or demons have appeared for 2000 years? Have you seen any? If so, prove it; photos, documentation, etc.

Demons are spiritual. The spiritual is not visible to the human eye, nor can it be photographed.

Demons are still at work in this world. We know this with the rampant depravity in the USA and all over the world. Yes, the majority of the depravity is due to man's wicked and evil heart, but demons are most certainly involved.

 

[parousia70]

Demons are still at work in this world. We know this with the rampant depravity in the USA and all over the world. Yes, the majority of the depravity is due to man's wicked and evil heart, but demons are most certainly involved.

When you say majority do you mean like 51% or more like 90%

 

[Adstar]

Believing in God whom no one has seen, but not believing in demons because they have not been seen.

I agree..

Sorry but i was under the impression you where stating that my post was putting forth a double standard No worries, breakdown in human to human communications.. Happens quite a bit..

 

[he-man]

Demons are spiritual. The spiritual is not visible to the human eye, nor can it be photographed. Demons are still at work in this world. We know this with the rampant depravity in the USA and all over the world. Yes, the majority of the depravity is due to man's wicked and evil heart, but demons are most certainly involved.

Still at work then where are they employed? I think rather the devil is a false god of idolatry. The devil is idolatry and is simply the lusts of the flesh; James 1:14.and 1 John 2:16 a symbol of lustand a vivid hypostatization of idolatry i aggregate.I violates the first and great commandment and is a breach of the secnd commandment. Demons were merely lunitics, madmen, and were 'Moonstruck".

 

[JacksBratt]

Isn't it strange that no devils or demons have appeared for 2000 years? Have you seen any? If so, prove it; photos, documentation, etc.

If you believe that there is no demonic activity, and has not been for 2000 years, you must have been sleeping.

Not only had there been much demonic activity but it is on an exponential increase.

Seriously?

 

[LawrenceRaymond]

I agree..

Sorry but i was under the impression you where stating that my post was putting forth a double standard No worries, breakdown in human to human communications.. Happens quite a bit..

The number of books on territorial spirits on Amazon, for instance, tells me that they are a major consideration in world evangelization. The one I saw while under the influence of LSD years ago looked more like a gnome. My guess is that these are lower-level evil spirits along the lines of imps, sprites, and trolls that operate within the "power of suggestion" since these lower-level spirits are seen in medieval drawings perched on someone's shoulder as if to whisper in the ear....just an observation...
By the way, "casting out devils" is not just a suggestion. It's a command from "The Throne Room".
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

analambanœ, "to take up" in order to use, "to take to one's self," thus, "take up" as one takes up armor to put it on. The verb is aorist imperative, which construction issues a command given with military snap and curtness, a command to be obeyed at once and once for all. Thus, the Christian is to take up and put on all the armor of God as a once-for-all act and keep that armor on during the entire course of his life, not relaxing the discipline necessary for the constant use of such protection. (from Wuest's Word Studies)

 

[ViaCrucis]

Not so fast. There were 3 angels (one of which turned out to be a theophany) that visited Abraham in Gen 18. The other 2 went on to visit Lot in Sodom and then called down fire to destroy the city. James says to be hospitable to strangers as we may be hosting "angels unawares."

That seems pretty visible and corporeal to me.

And if/when the Almighty deems fit for one of His angels to manifest in some form, He is more than able to make it happen.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Matthew 16:23 he said Peter was one.

So you think St. Peter was a literal devil?

-CryptoLutheran