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Has the strong delusion that Paul speaks of in 2 Thessalonians 2 already come?
Are there people who think they are saved while they continue to practice sin ? Yes the strong dilusion is here.Has the strong delusion that Paul speaks of in 2 Thessalonians 2 already come?
Are there people who think they are saved while they continue to practice sin ? Yes the strong dilusion is here.
Is the a false unity of denominations forming under an umbrella that allows every manner of demonic doctrine from golddust and feathers through to Mary worship and even Satanism to be included under the name of that false unity? Yes..the strong dellusion has come.
LolGold dust and feathers sounds interesting.
And that has already occured..and Many have already waxed cold.The strong delusion takes place in the Tribulation period. However, the spirit of antichrist is active today. Bible Prophecy Answer Book by Ron Rhodes:
What is the “spirit of antichrist”?
Not only will there be a future person known as the antichrist who comes to power in the future seven-year tribulation period (2 Thessalonians 2: 1-9; Revelation 13), there is also a “spirit of the antichrist” that is already at work today, promoting heretical and cultic doctrine (1 John 4: 1-3). Based on John’s writings, we can conclude that the spirit of antichrist involves deception (2 John 7), denies that Christ came in the flesh (1 John 4: 2-3), denies the Father and the Son (1 John 2: 22), is already in the world (1 John 4: 3), was even prevalent in apostolic times (1 John 2: 18), and is closely related to false prophets (1 John 4: 1). Many theologians believe that the “spirit of the antichrist” refers to demonic spirits who promulgate anti-Christian teachings (1 John 4: 3). In keeping with this, 1 Timothy 4: 1 warns, “The Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons.”
ByTheSpirit said in post #1:
Has the strong delusion that Paul speaks of in 2 Thessalonians 2 already come?
Alithis said in post #2:
Is the a false unity of denominations forming under an umbrella that allows every manner of demonic doctrine from golddust and feathers through to Mary worship and even Satanism to be included under the name of that false unity?
imsaneru said in post #7:
And it says that they will believe the lie , well of coarse they will because Revelation tells us about another man who performs a "SIGN" for them , he makes fire come down from heaven to the earth...
Interesting take on the Elijah .Now hang on let's back up a little , Paul begins by talking about a man who sits in the temple of God claiming himself to be God , now I would have thought that that in it's self would be one of the biggest con jobs or delusions around. And it says that they will believe the lie , well of coarse they will because Revelation tells us about another man who performs a "SIGN" for them , he makes fire come down from heaven to the earth...Like HELLO!!!! , Elijah anyone.
Let's not forget what they asked of Jesus , they said show us a sign from heaven and of coarse he wouldn't so they are still looking for it.
The problem here is...if the church leaders are church leaders then they already serve the false prophet.Good point. For:
Revelation 13:13 . . . he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do . . .
Just as the Antichrist could make a worldwide television and internet spectacle out of his fulfilling of 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and Daniel 11:36, so his False Prophet could make a worldwide television and internet spectacle out of his fulfilling of Revelation 13:13, when he will miraculously call fire down from heaven in the sight of everyone. He could do this as a Luciferian inversion of 1 Kings 18:19-40. For example, he could first gather together the most prominent leaders of the Christian community worldwide to the Champ de Mars (Mars being the same as Marduk the dragon, the chief god of ancient Babylon), which is the large open space in front of the Eiffel Tower in Paris. And he could tell them during a ceremony televised and webcasted worldwide to pray to YHWH God to send fire down and destroy the Tower.
And when the Christian leaders pray and YHWH doesn't do anything (by His own choice), the False Prophet could pray to Lucifer (the dragon, Satan: Revelation 12:9, Revelation 13:4) to send fire down and destroy the Tower. And Lucifer could do so (allowed to do so by YHWH), so that 1 Kings 18:38-40 will be turned on its head, so that news reporters could write (in their words) "Then the fire of Lucifer fell, and consumed the Eiffel Tower. And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces. And they said, Lucifer is God, Lucifer is God. And the True Prophet said to them: 'Take these men of YHWH! Let not one of them escape!' And they took them. And the True Prophet brought them down to the river Seine, and slew them there" (as a Luciferian inversion of 1 Kings 18:38-40).
But would YHWH God really let something like this happen? Would he let Christians pray to Him to send fire down from heaven, but refuse to do so, while allowing Lucifer to send fire down at the beck of the False Prophet? Yes, YHWH could let this happen, as a test to Christians, to see if they love signs and wonders more than YHWH (cf. Deuteronomy 13:1-3). Christians must always remember that not all signs and wonders are from the true God, that Lucifer/Satan can also give people the power to perform them (e.g. 2 Thessalonians 2:9), in order to deceive people (Matthew 24:24-25, Revelation 13:13-14, Revelation 19:20).
The way not to be deceived is to continue to believe everything the Bible teaches is from God (John 8:31b, Matthew 4:4; 2 Timothy 3:15 to 4:4), no matter how amazing the miracles are of someone who teaches something which contradicts the Bible (Matthew 24:24; 1 Timothy 4:1). And the way to continue to believe everything the Bible teaches is from God is not to continue in any unrepentant sin. For otherwise our conscience could become seared as with a hot iron (1 Timothy 4:2), to where we could no longer endure the sound doctrine of the Bible, but after our own lusts heap to ourselves teachers who teach us fables which support us in our lusts (2 Timothy 4:3-4), to where we could even become willing to depart from the faith itself, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils (1 Timothy 4:1).
Oh .just because the delusion is a global dellusion which falls into apostasy long before the son of perdition is revealed.Why not?
So when a man comes to sit in the temple of God and claims to be God , are you thinking that that might happen in Rome?Oh .just because the delusion is a global dellusion which falls into apostasy long before the son of perdition is revealed.
I'm of the personal opinion the false prophet will be a pope. But that's just opinion. But Rome is the center of the false unification of churches.
Alithis said in post #15:
I'm of the personal opinion the false prophet will be a pope.
imsaneru said in post #17:
So when a man comes to sit in the temple of God and claims to be God , are you thinking that that might happen in Rome?
?? Nope lol ..the false prophet and the son of perdition are not the same..they just work togetherSo when a man comes to sit in the temple of God and claims to be God , are you thinking that that might happen in Rome?