Why the Catholic Church changes the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday

[Danthemailman]

But the real fact is they did not change anything. Christians were worshipping on Sunday long before the RCC.

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The early Christians worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week became associated with Christ's resurrection (Matthew 28:1-10; Luke 24:1; John 20:1; Revelation 1:10). We see from Acts 20:7 and I Corinthians 16:1-3 that the early Church gathered together on the first day of every week in order to "break bread," and also to take up a "collection for the saints." Nowhere in the New Testament is the Church commanded to gather together to worship on the Jewish seventh day Sabbath.

History records that the early Christians were worshipping on Sunday as far back as the first and second centuries A.D. For example:

"But every Lord's Day, gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, so that your sacrifice may be pure." (Didache c. 80-140)

"No longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day." (Ignatius, c. 105) Ignatius here reveals that the “Lord’s Day” is separate from the Jewish Sabbath.

"I will make a beginning of the eighth day, that is, a beginning of another world. For that reason, also, we keep the eighth day with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead." (Barnabas c. 70-130)

"And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read... But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God... made the world. And Jesus Christ our Savior rose from the dead on that same day." (Justin Martyr c. 160)

"There was no need of circumcision before Abraham. Nor was there need of the observance of Sabbaths, or of feasts and sacrifices, before Moses. Accordingly, there is no more need of them now." (Justin Martyr c. 160)

"We do not follow the Jews in their peculiarities in regard to food nor in their sacred days." (Tertullian c. 197)

"Just as the abolition of fleshly circumcision and of the old Law is demonstrated as having been consummated at its specific times, so also the observance of the Sabbath is demonstrated to have been temporary." (Tertullian c. 197)

This was prior to the rise of the Roman Catholic institution in the early 4th century.

 

[BobRyan]

The early Christians worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week became associated with Christ's resurrection (Matthew 28:1-10; Luke 24:1; John 20:1; Revelation 1:10). We see from Acts 20:7 and I Corinthians 16:1-3 that the early Church gathered together on the first day of every week in order to "break bread," and also to take up a "collection for the saints." Nowhere in the New Testament is the Church commanded to gather together to worship on the Jewish seventh day Sabbath.

We compare the Bible statements about "week-day-1" vs the statements in the NT about the Sabbath here -
Dec 22, 2016 #1

What we do NOT find in the NT is "The early Christians worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week". Even you could not find it - so you simply quote "you" for that statement.

Nor do we find any of the texts you provide saying "every week day 1 gather for worship" or "every week day 1 gather to break bread" or "every week-day-1 come together to remember the Lord's resurrection" or "week-day-1 is the Lord's Day"

None of that shows up in any of the texts you do-not-quote-but-reference.

Were we simply "not supposed to notice"???

 

[Bob S]

The Catholic Church only thought they changed the day because there was no such thing from God to the New Covenant Christian nations as a Sabbath or any other special day.

The Sabbath was given to Israel as part of the way they were to live in Canaan. God told them that IF they kept the Sabbath and all the other laws He pronounced that He would make them a Holy nation. That was the covenant we now call the Old Covenant. He never promised or ever suggested that for keeping Sabbath or an of the laws that governed them it would lead to eternal life. The Old Covenant ended at Calvary when Jesus ratified the New Covenant with His own blood. It took, for some reason, 70 years until the Temple was destroyed and the Jews realized their covenant and way of life had ended. Jews and some Christians still persist in observing laws that ended over 2000 years ago and have been replaced by the new and better covenant of Grace and love. Amen!

 

[Danthemailman]

We compare the Bible statements about "week-day-1" vs the statements in the NT about the Sabbath here -
Dec 22, 2016 #1

What we do NOT find in the NT is "The early Christians worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week". Even you could not find it - so you simply quote "you" for that statement.

Nor do we find any of the texts you provide saying "every week day 1 gather for worship" or "every week day 1 gather to break bread" or "every week-day-1 come together to remember the Lord's resurrection" or "week-day-1 is the Lord's Day"

None of that shows up in any of the texts you do-not-quote-but-reference.

Were we simply "not supposed to notice"???

Ultimately, what is your main point Bob and why are you so obsessed with the Sabbath day? Do you believe that those who do not keep the Sabbath day (in the right way and on the right day--according to you) will not receive eternal life? Seventh-day Adventists teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday. I find this very disturbing to say the least! - Bible Truth Versus Adventist Truth - Mark of the Beast

What do YOU believe it means to KEEP His commandments Bob? Sinless, perfect obedience to all of His commandments, 100% of the time? Have you done this Bob and is that what you are trusting in to receive eternal life?

 

[Bob S]

Ultimately, what is your main point Bob and why are you so obsessed with the Sabbath day? Do you believe that those who do not keep the Sabbath day (in the right way and on the right day--according to you) will not receive eternal life? Seventh-day Adventists teach that the near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday. I find this very disturbing to say the least!

Actually the prophet of SDAs was even more adamant about losing our eternal inheritance. SDAs reall y do not like to express many of the things she wrote. They try to keep things like the following hidden:

It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: "Them that honor Me I will honor." {6T 356.4}


But if we turn aside from the fourth commandment, so positively given by God, to adopt the inventions of Satan, voiced and acted by men under his control, we cannot be saved. We cannot with safety receive his traditions and subtleties as truth. {RH, July 6, 1897 par. 4}

Then she adds to her former statement "after becoming enlightened". Of course she also wrote the end of time threat.

No one who disregards the fourth commandment, after becoming enlightened in regard to the claims of the Sabbath, can be held guiltless in the sight of God. {RH, July 6, 1897 par. 14}

What do YOU believe it means to KEEP His commandments Bob? Sinless, perfect obedience to all of His commandments, 100% of the time? Have you done this Bob and is that what you are trusting in to receive eternal life?

If one did not "keep" flawlessly the Sabbath command wouldn't they be sinning? Live by the law and be judged by the law.

 

[BobRyan]

The early Christians worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week became associated with Christ's resurrection (Matthew 28:1-10; Luke 24:1; John 20:1; Revelation 1:10). We see from Acts 20:7 and I Corinthians 16:1-3 that the early Church gathered together on the first day of every week in order to "break bread," and also to take up a "collection for the saints." Nowhere in the New Testament is the Church commanded to gather together to worship on the Jewish seventh day Sabbath.

We compare the Bible statements about "week-day-1" vs the statements in the NT about the Sabbath here -
Dec 22, 2016 #1

What we do NOT find in the NT is "The early Christians worshipped God on Sunday (and week-day-1 is the Lord's Day)". Even you could not find it - so you simply quote "you" for that statement.

Nor do we find any of the texts you provide saying "every week day 1 gather for worship" or "every week day 1 gather to break bread" or "every week-day-1 come together to remember the Lord's resurrection" or "week-day-1 is the Lord's Day"

None of that shows up in any of the texts you do-not-quote-but-reference.

Were we simply "not supposed to notice"???

Ultimately, what is your main point Bob and why are you so obsessed with the Sabbath day?

"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

In your post you claim that the NT text says that NT Christians "worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week became associated with Christ's resurrection"

My response in the quote you just posted - was that nothing in your post was found in the actual Bible showing that any such weekly week-day-1 worship service of any kind was going on.

And then- your response is of the form "And why does that matter"????

I find your logic "illusive" at that point.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The enemy infiltrated as wolves in the first 2 centuries, and started falsifying the testimony of the groups that were not on guard against them,
gaining greater numbers with power against the true assemblies and true believers,
and early on the "facts" falsified became a hallmark/ status quo/ of the apostate leaders, being used right up through today by those who go along with what is wrong.

 

[Open Heart]

Until you read what God said about Genesis 2 - in Exodus 20:11

Exodus 20 is not written to the world, but only to Israel. Thus Gentiles have no commandment to keep or observe the Shabbat.

 

[BobRyan]

Exodus 20 is not written to the world, but only to Israel. Thus Gentiles have no commandment to keep or observe the Shabbat.

Turns out it is wrong for everybody to "Take God's name in vain" -- Jew or Not. It is one of the TEN commandments.

Nice that even the RCC admits that all TEN of the TEN commandments are for all mankind.

What is more - the NEW Covenant is written to the SAME group as are the TEN commandments. For those who read Jeremiah 31:31-33

 

[BobRyan]

What do YOU believe it means to KEEP His commandments Bob?

"Do not take God's name in vain" means that we do not take God's name in vain "in real life" ... the difference between obedience and rebellion in this case - not the dark shadowy mystery some may have supposed.

Turns out it is very apparent.

 

[BobRyan]

History records that the early Christians were worshipping on Sunday

History records that the NT was written in the first century.

It is the NT where we do NOT find a single text calling week-day-1 "the Lord's Day"
It is the NT where we do NOT find a single text saying "EVERY week day 1 they gathered to hear Gospel preaching".

But in Act 18:4 we have "Every Sabbath" they gathered in the Synagogue - BOTH Jews and Greeks - to hear Gospel preaching.

Is the NT where we do NOT find "from week-day-1 to week-day-1 shall mankind come before Me to worship" - but we DO have "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship"

And then of course - there is Mark 7:6-13

 

[Open Heart]

Turns out it is wrong for everybody to "Take God's name in vain" -- Jew or Not. It is one of the TEN commandments.

Nice that even the RCC admits that all TEN of the TEN commandments are for all mankind.

What is more - the NEW Covenant is written to the SAME group as are the TEN commandments. For those who read Jeremiah 31:31-33

Are you admitting that the Catholic Church has authority over Christians?

 

[Danthemailman]

We compare the Bible statements about "week-day-1" vs the statements in the NT about the Sabbath here -
Dec 22, 2016 #1

What we do NOT find in the NT is "The early Christians worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week". Even you could not find it - so you simply quote "you" for that statement.

Nor do we find any of the texts you provide saying "every week day 1 gather for worship" or "every week day 1 gather to break bread" or "every week-day-1 come together to remember the Lord's resurrection" or "week-day-1 is the Lord's Day"

None of that shows up in any of the texts you do-not-quote-but-reference.

Were we simply "not supposed to notice"???

"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

In your post you claim that the NT text says that NT Christians "worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week became associated with Christ's resurrection"

My response in the quote you just posted - was that nothing in your post was found in the actual Bible showing that any such weekly week-day-1 worship service of any kind was going on.

And then- you response is of the form "And why does that matter"????

I find your logic "illusive" at that point.

There is just no getting through to you at all and you only see what you want to see. It's your logic that is illusive. I sincerely hope that you find your way out of bondage to legalism, as brother Anderson did.

The Truth about the Seventh-day Adventist Church

https://www.nonsda.org/study7.shtml

 

[BobRyan]

What we do NOT find in the NT is "The early Christians worshipped God on Sunday (and week-day-1 is the Lord's Day)". Even you could not find it - so you simply quote "you" for that statement.

Nor do we find any of the texts you provide saying "every week day 1 gather for worship" or "every week day 1 gather to break bread" or "every week-day-1 come together to remember the Lord's resurrection" or "week-day-1 is the Lord's Day"

None of that shows up in any of the texts you do-not-quote-but-reference.

Were we simply "not supposed to notice"???

Ultimately, what is your main point Bob and why are you so obsessed with the Sabbath day?

"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

In your post you claim that the NT text says that NT Christians "worshipped God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week became associated with Christ's resurrection"

My response in the quote you just posted - was that nothing in your post was found in the actual Bible showing that any such weekly week-day-1 worship service of any kind was going on.

And then- your response is of the form "And why does that matter"????

I find your logic "illusive" at that point.

There is just no getting through to you at all and you only see what you want to see. It's your logic that is illusive.

The mere quote of the text - is sufficient cause to give rise to strong objection to it.

 

[BobRyan]

Turns out it is wrong for everybody to "Take God's name in vain" -- Jew or Not. It is one of the TEN commandments.

Nice that even the RCC admits that all TEN of the TEN commandments are for all mankind.

Are you admitting that the Catholic Church has authority over Christians?

Why would I ??

Since this is a thread about the RCC -- I simply point to " a detail " about it's affirmation of all TEN of the TEN Commandments.

 

[BobRyan]

I sincerely hope that you find your way out of bondage to legalism, as brother Anderson did.

The Truth about the Seventh-day Adventist Church

https://www.nonsda.org/study7.shtml

I sincerely hope you find the truth of God's Word that all TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God - and written on the heart under the NEW Covenant as "even" these pro-sunday groups know.

The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.

hint: the idea that they are all SDA or all following the SDA church - is nonsense and we both know it.

 

[Open Heart]

Why would I ??

You are the one that appealed to the Catholic Church accepting all of the 10 commandments. If you do that, you are accepting its authority. If not, you need to drop that argument.

 

[bloodygrace]

I sincerely hope you find the truth of God's Word that all TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God - and written on the heart under the NEW Covenant as "even" these pro-sunday groups know.

The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.

hint: the idea that they are all SDA or all following the SDA church - is nonsense and we both know it.

You don't keep all ten commandments Bob and neither does your church. And Jesus is the one who relegated the Sabbath to obscurity when he rose from the grave on Sunday. There was no pope in the 1st century when Sunday became the day of Christ and his church.

 

[Open Heart]

You don't keep all ten commandments Bob and neither does your church. And Jesus is the one who relegated the Sabbath to obscurity when he rose from the grave on Sunday. There was no pope in the 1st century when Sunday became the day of Christ and his church.

No offense, but how does Jesus doing something that was non-rest on the first day of the week do away with the Sabbath?

 

[bloodygrace]

No offense, but how does Jesus doing something that was non-rest on the first day of the week do away with the Sabbath?

No offense but how is a Jewish holy day a requirement for Christians when Romans, Galatians, Colossians all say Christians are not bound by the shadows of the law.