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What Does Atheism Profit Atheists?

bhsmte

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I have to disagree. I had to re-read your statement several times in order to understand your gist. Communication is a two way street and it is obvious most people did not understand what you were trying to convey. What is the point of continuing to refuse to clarify your meaning?
Providing clarity, includes risk.
 
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What is the point of continuing to refuse to clarify your meaning?

If I answer honestly, this will all begin again. I think those involved need to think what you like about the situation then drop it, that's what I'm going to do.
 
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To many, it might. To many others, it doesn't. Definitions are seldom universally shared.
Still if you were to discuss this topic with these "agnostics", I would assert that they also would agree that they are "atheists" under this definition.

Yes, but they would contest that definition. In my opinion we already have a word for what New Atheists desire as the definition of atheism: agnosticism.

Merriam-Webster gives both definitions:

Atheist -
a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods : one who subscribes to or advocates atheism​

Agnostic -
a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (such as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god​

Then follows an editor's note describing the precise difference:

Many people are interested in distinguishing between the words agnostic and atheist. The difference is quite simple: atheist refers to someone who believes that there is no god (or gods), and agnostic refers to someone who doesn’t know whether there is a god, or even if such a thing is knowable. This distinction can be troublesome to remember, but examining the origins of the two words can help...​
 
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Atheism is a cognitive dissonance disorder. It can't be reasoned with because it does not have the vocabulary needed to understand matters pertaining to the spirit.

Cognitive dissonance.....

In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. The occurrence of cognitive dissonance is consequence of a person's performing an action that contradicts personal beliefs, ideals, and values; and also occurs when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values.

How to catch an Athiest at his or her own lie?

The lie is the contradiction, as Jesus said you will know them by their works.

We notice that Athiests provide sensational claims that...

God doesn't exist.

Yet if we confront atheists on grounds of human ethics and morality, they have absolutely no real and tangible answer to the question. In fact when confronting an Athiest on the issues of ethics and morality, they simply answer that these are unknown qualities of humanity that they have no answers for.

If we look at human history, we witness ethics and morality being applied consistently and not randomly as some sort of phenomena as the athiests claim. In fact this forms part of their cognitive dissonance that they are so confident that God being outside of the scope of human metaphysical understanding doesn't exist, yet the ethics and morality exhibited by humans throughout history are an unknown phenomena.

Look at the definition of cognitive dissonance and you will see how they exhibit a mental discomfort when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values. they in turn resort to simultaneously holding two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.

IN THIS REGARD THE STATEMENT BELOW UNDERPINS WHAT ATHIEISM IS.....

Athieism in its totality is a FRAUD.
These threads get funnier by the minute.
 
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Atheism is a cognitive dissonance disorder. It can't be reasoned with because it does not have the vocabulary needed to understand matters pertaining to the spirit.

Cognitive dissonance.....

In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. The occurrence of cognitive dissonance is consequence of a person's performing an action that contradicts personal beliefs, ideals, and values; and also occurs when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values.

How to catch an Athiest at his or her own lie?

The lie is the contradiction, as Jesus said you will know them by their works.

We notice that Athiests provide sensational claims that...

God doesn't exist.

Yet if we confront atheists on grounds of human ethics and morality, they have absolutely no real and tangible answer to the question. In fact when confronting an Athiest on the issues of ethics and morality, they simply answer that these are unknown qualities of humanity that they have no answers for.

If we look at human history, we witness ethics and morality being applied consistently and not randomly as some sort of phenomena as the athiests claim. In fact this forms part of their cognitive dissonance that they are so confident that God being outside of the scope of human metaphysical understanding doesn't exist, yet the ethics and morality exhibited by humans throughout history are an unknown phenomena.

Look at the definition of cognitive dissonance and you will see how they exhibit a mental discomfort when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values. they in turn resort to simultaneously holding two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.

IN THIS REGARD THE STATEMENT BELOW UNDERPINS WHAT ATHIEISM IS.....

Athieism in its totality is a FRAUD.

That was a big post to establish that you don't understand atheists. Thanks for sharing it with us.
 
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The Athiest doesn't understand an Athiest, let alone Athieism.

Athieism in totally is proven to be a fraud. The Athiest who embraces this cognitive dissonance mental state is the victim of Athieism.

Fascinating. Meaningless, but fascinating.
 
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The Athiest doesn't understand an Athiest, let alone Athieism.

Athieism in totally is proven to be a fraud. The Athiest who embraces this cognitive dissonance mental state is the victim of Athieism.
Your spelling of these words is quite creative - I give you this.
 
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You just said it all, that is Athiesm.....

Is.....

Fascinating but meaningless.

It is these contradictory thoughts that play out in every Athieist, that is a spirit of ever seeking and never finding.

That is why an Atheist will regard a thought fascinating and meaningless at the same time. This is where cognitive dissonance plays its part unbewares of the victim who embraces the fraud that is Atheism.

No.
 
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You just said it all, that is Athiesm.....

Is.....

Fascinating but meaningless.

It is these contradictory thoughts that play out in every Athieist, that is a spirit of ever seeking and never finding.

That is why an Atheist will regard a thought fascinating and meaningless at the same time. This is where cognitive dissonance plays its part unbewares of the victim who embraces the fraud that is Atheism.

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Atheism is a cognitive dissonance disorder. It can't be reasoned with because it does not have the vocabulary needed to understand matters pertaining to the spirit.

Cognitive dissonance.....

In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. The occurrence of cognitive dissonance is consequence of a person's performing an action that contradicts personal beliefs, ideals, and values; and also occurs when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values.

How to catch an Athiest at his or her own lie?

The lie is the contradiction, as Jesus said you will know them by their works.

We notice that Athiests provide sensational claims that...

God doesn't exist.

Yet if we confront atheists on grounds of human ethics and morality, they have absolutely no real and tangible answer to the question. In fact when confronting an Athiest on the issues of ethics and morality, they simply answer that these are unknown qualities of humanity that they have no answers for.

If we look at human history, we witness ethics and morality being applied consistently and not randomly as some sort of phenomena as the athiests claim. In fact this forms part of their cognitive dissonance that they are so confident that God being outside of the scope of human metaphysical understanding doesn't exist, yet the ethics and morality exhibited by humans throughout history are an unknown phenomena.

Look at the definition of cognitive dissonance and you will see how they exhibit a mental discomfort when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values. they in turn resort to simultaneously holding two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.

IN THIS REGARD THE STATEMENT BELOW UNDERPINS WHAT ATHIEISM IS.....

Athieism in its totality is a FRAUD.
Projection at its best.
 
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I'm not sure how you can demonstrate that.... I'm interested to see how you can support that argument.

By all means, lets see your evidence.

(Note: Even if you can prove they are more prosperous, that still doesn't prove the bible is true in and of itself though)

It's simple. The divine inspiration has brought the people better lives.
 
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Bad part is I have yet to see an episode of DR. Who. He was great in Jessica Jones however.

You what?! :O Go watch it! :D There are two episodes I think you should start out at:

Blink - a 10th Doctor episode, the first DW episode I saw, one of the scariest, and the one that got me into the series. It's not linked to one of the more story-arc episodes so you won't feel lost.
Rose - the first 9th Doctor episode and the first of the revival series—it's best to start with this rather than the first of Tennant's because there's a few call backs that make sense if you've watched the 9th Doctor's season, plus Rose is a companion that carries over from the 9th's season into 10's first one. :)

If you have ANY questions whatsoever I'll be more than happy to answer them. :)
 
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