What Does Atheism Profit Atheists?

[bhsmte]

No I find it laughable. After all if there is no God, then Christians etc are deluded and there is plenty in the bible for atheists etc to use to ensure that a 'Christian' country followed Christian morality without atheist needing to get hot under the coller at the foolish antics of Christians.

Christianity teaches that all sex outside of marriage is wrong, that we should not get drunk, or be dishonest, or lazy etc If there is no God then those rules donot apply.

Are you saying non Christians can not act morally because they don't believe in your God?

 

[zippy2006]

It´s my beliefs that profit me, not my non-beliefs.

But atheism isn't merely a non-belief or lack of belief, even for the so-called "agnostic atheist." Atheism is something that the atheist is willing to take a stand on, to argue for, to support, to expend energy on. They have a belief that God shouldn't be believed in, that God is not worthy of belief, that evidence for God is insufficient. It is something consciously and intentionally held. Therefore according to your own words it profits you.

 

[bhsmte]

But atheism isn't merely a non-belief or lack of belief, even for the so-called "agnostic atheist." Atheism is something that the atheist is willing to take a stand on, to argue for, to support, to expend energy on. They have a belief that God shouldn't be believed in, that God is not worthy of belief, that evidence for God is insufficient. It is something consciously and intentionally held. Therefore according to your own words it profits you.

It is generally healthy from a psychological standpoint, to be honest with oneself. In other words, if a person sees no reason to believe in something, even though many others do, some folks don't do well pretending, so they fit in.

What others believe or don't believe is up to them and is related to their own personal psyche. For me, I don't believe personal God's exist and it is beneficial to be honest with myself, in that regard.

Also, there are many Christians, who fight for their beliefs and feel the Christian God should be believed in, even though most of the people in the world disagree with this belief.

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

Jesus said, seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened; you will find me if you search for me with all your heart. Those sound like promises. So if you haven't found him, you are not looking.

What's the definition of looking, then? By my estimation I've been looking for almost 40 years. What should I be doing?

 

[section9+1]

Non-Christians can do moral acts and live cleanly and benefit from it just because living right has built in health and social rewards. But that's all they get. God recognizes none of it. But then I guess the God part doesn't matter. I would encourage non-Christians to do right. It makes life easier for everyone. Problem is that much of the time wrong is right and darkness is light and good and evil become warped all out of context.

 

[section9+1]

MG
Are you looking on your own terms or his? I guess there's always hell. You'll find that easily enough.

 

[bhsmte]

MG
Are you looking on your own terms or his? I guess there's always hell. You'll find that easily enough.

Manufactured fear tactics, typically fall short. That is of course, whether you can demonstrate this hell exists and who will go there.

 

[section9+1]

I am not out to convince atheists of anything. I am not trying to scare anyone into heaven and the life or destiny you've chose is meaningless to me. I have found what I was looking for. If you have as well, there's nothing to discuss.

 

[quatona]

But atheism isn't merely a non-belief or lack of belief, even for the so-called "agnostic atheist." Atheism is something that the atheist is willing to take a stand on, to argue for, to support, to expend energy on.

Says who?

They have a belief that God shouldn't be believed in, that God is not worthy of belief, that evidence for God is insufficient.

Don´t make up beliefs for me. Thank you.

 

[bhsmte]

I am not out to convince atheists of anything. I am not trying to scare anyone into heaven and the life or destiny you've chose is meaningless to me. I have found what I was looking for. If you have as well, there's nothing to discuss.

Agree. You are free to believe what you will and others will believe or not believe what they will. When some need to make claims about those who disagree with them and what may happen to them, it tells us a good bit about what motivates the person making those claims.

 

[quatona]

Maybe we can create one thread where theists tell atheists what atheists believe, and one thread where atheists tell theists what theists believe - so nobody needs to speak for themselves?

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

MG
Are you looking on your own terms or his? I guess there's always hell. You'll find that easily enough.

How can I tell? Are you saying if I'm not successful, despite an honest effort to look. then I'm off to hell? Then please instruct me on how to do it right.

 

[zippy2006]

Says who?

Says common sense and every atheist I've met.

Maybe we can create one thread where theists tell atheists what atheists believe, and one thread where atheists tell theists what theists believe - so nobody needs to speak for themselves?

Maybe we should set up a thread where atheists vacuously and unintelligibly deny everything that theists say about them. Oh wait, we have many of those.

 

[Larniavc]

Any thoughts?

I get no profit from my atheism.

 

[Larniavc]

Is the UK totally Godless?

Not yet but we're getting there.

 

[Larniavc]

dark lord

Is it Skeletor or Mum Ra?

 

[Larniavc]

To claim to be atheist, allows someone to ignore the lurking thoughts and worrying question, that there might be a God.

People who don't believe in God don't have those lurking thoughts or questions about God in the same way that you don't have lurking thoughts about the 100s of other gods you don't think exist.

 

[Larniavc]

If there is no God then those rules donot apply.

Then why do non-Christian countries have similar values?

 

[section9+1]

I never go onto atheist websites and tell them anything. And probably a lot of them never go onto Christian sites. I think that's good. Out of sight, out of mind. But I see some insist on being here. Who's got the problems? Some Christians feel compelled to witness in every possible place they can and to everyone they might bump into. I don't. Why atheists want to evangelize their position kind of escapes me. If Christian witnessing offends them, why do they come here and do the very same thing and expect any better consideration?

 

[Larniavc]

Are atheists a particular concern of yours?

It's scientist he has it in for, too.