Well yes, but in the Garden of Eden, the Bible talks about Adam and Eve being naked, not about them being nude, even though they were both. They covered themselves because they were naked.
Do you believe arms are modest?
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Well yes, but in the Garden of Eden, the Bible talks about Adam and Eve being naked, not about them being nude, even though they were both. They covered themselves because they were naked.
Like can one be modest while displaying arms? Depends on what they're doing with them. Having them exposed is fine, but doing flexes in public is immodest.Do you believe arms are modest?
Be careful with nude v. naked. Nude means the body is exposed, naked means the body is vulnerable. You can be naked without being nude.
I'd get used to it if I were you.Even as a kid I remember feeling weird about not wearing a shirt at the pool. So, I wore a shirt at the pool as a kid.
Women are supposed to wear tops, and cover themselves at the beach. I think they should be even more modest though, but I want to address the issue of men here.
We shouldn't be showing off our bodies, and we should cover ourselves.
Try wearing a rash guard and trunks.
Speedos are for weirdos.
I think you're misunderstanding.I'd get used to it if I were you.
It's not going to change and is harmless. Think yourself lucky you don't live in a country where there are strict clothing customs.
Morally, no. It does in the context of the cultures at the time though.
Personally, I think we should be working on the true issues we have as a society with lust and sexualization instead of continuing to try and clean things up downstream by trying to cover each other's bodies up so we don't have to deal with it. There is nothing wrong or overtly sexual about the human body, male or female. If we can acknowledge our inability to view one another without feeling sexual to be our own sin, God is more than powerful enough to transform our hearts.
Remember the Bible was translated to English over 400 years ago. You shouldn't use modern definitions for this.Why make something out of nothing with a simple term? lol
na·ked
ˈnākid/
adjective
adjective: naked
1.
(of a person or part of the body) without clothes.
"he'd never seen a naked woman before"
synonyms: nude, bare, in the nude, stark naked, having nothing on, stripped, unclothed, undressed; More
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nude
n(y)o͞od/
adjective
adjective: nude
1.
wearing no clothes; naked.
"a painting of a nude model"
synonyms: naked, stark naked, bare, unclothed, undressed, disrobed, stripped, unclad, au naturel, without a stitch on, in one's birthday suit, in the raw, in the altogether, in the buff; More
Look at the first word (and probably meant as the most likely match) of the respective synonyms...naked/nude, nude/naked. They couldn't be any closer in meaning. They are exactly the same thing when it comes to context of subject.
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Lust is not exactly the issue I'm talking about.Personally, I think we should be working on the true issues we have as a society with lust and sexualization instead of continuing to try and clean things up downstream by trying to cover each other's bodies up so we don't have to deal with it. There is nothing wrong or overtly sexual about the human body, male or female. If we can acknowledge our inability to view one another without feeling sexual to be our own sin, God is more than powerful enough to transform our hearts.
Well, if someone is nude, and proud of it, then they're clearly insane. I remember going to a day-care center as a kid. All the kids played, and were alright over there, but one kid named Steven who was about 4 or 5 liked to strip down and run around. The other kids and I climbed on top of couches so that he couldn't touch us. We knew, even as children, there was something wrong with naked people.Are you saying lack of clothes is base behavior?
Remember the Bible was translated to English over 400 years ago. You shouldn't use modern definitions for this.
Historically the term naked has been associated with shame and exposure, usually in terms of nudity but not always. For example, Jesus is often depicted on the cross as wearing a basic cloth over his pelvic region yet described as "naked".Show me how that relates to the terms naked and nude? I understand your point...just don't think it applies here, but I'm willing to listen.
Adam and Eve were nude, but not naked
What's so modest about wearing a shirt?I think you're misunderstanding.
I don't expect the world's customs to change. I'm trying to speak to christian men, pointing out that we should strive to appear modest, and I believe that includes wearing shirts at the beach.
You think that would make someone insane?Well, if someone is nude, and proud of it, then they're clearly insane
Actually they were both nude and naked in today's terminology. And remember God asked them how they knew they were naked, clearly meaning without clothing else he would not have covered them.
If you wan to get into the many ways a person can be naked fine but that has nothing to do with the subject of this thread, and I just didn't see why it was being complicated to the point it was.
By today's use of the English language, yes, they were naked before sin. However, we should not be looking at today's English.
its truth in addition to an expression of what im conveying. i want to get the point across that breasts are not inherently sexual. old breasts that are ugly should be covered just like every other breast out there, including men's breasts. sorry if i was too descriptive.