The Gospel of Jesus the Christ

[QuikSand]

The gospel of Jesus the Christ is the good news.
The good news of grace and truth made known to this world through
the Holy Ghost by the name above all names Jesus the Christ the first born of God
the Son of the living God the son of man given birth by woman
to which came from man.

For it is written in the Holy Bible...
the scriptures of truth inspired by God.

In the beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made that was made.

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to become the sons of God,

Which were born of God.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Have you received the Word?

If you will receive the Word
God will give you power to become a son of God.
And if you become a son of God by that power
You will become born of God.

And if you become born of God
You will cease from doing sin.

If we say we have sin and say we are born of God
then we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

 

[QuikSand]

People on earth today teach and preach and believe
that Jesus was always perfect.

But yet it is written in the Holy Bible
recorded in the Book of Luke
Jesus himself said he had to be perfected.

Why will you not believe that Jesus was not perfect reading
how he had to be perfected as recorded in the Holy Bible?

People on earth today teach and preach and believe
that Jesus was the only one perfect.

But yet it is written in the Holy Bible
recorded in the Book of Genesis
God saw every thing that he had made,
and, behold, it was very good.

Why will you not believe
that the man Adam was perfect?

As recorded in the Book of Genesis in the Holy Bible?

 

[Widlast]

Lots of text. What exactly is your point?

Do you type for your own amusement? or are you trying to accomplish some thing?

 

[QuikSand]

Lots of text. What exactly is your point?

Do you type for your own amusement? or are you trying to accomplish some thing?

I accomplished the impossible which is exactly my point in the text I typed for the pleasure of my own amusement.

 

[devin553344]

"But yet it is written in the Holy Bible recorded in the Book of Luke Jesus himself said he had to be perfected."

Ok so there's Luke:

{13:32} And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day
and to morrow, and the third [day] I shall be perfected.

This is interesting doctrine to me, for Adam and Eve were given seed and herb and fruit good for meat per the books of Moses. Then they were kicked out of the garden for eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Then man started sacrificing per ordinances given to Moses, and animals were for meat of the sacrifice. Then Jesus the Christ ended sacrifices of the Passover and gave out bread and wine (seed and fruit) as his body and blood, and he was the perfect sacrifice and it says that he had power to lay down his life and take it up again. And it said in the old testament that he has the power to kill and make alive again.

So then if Jesus the Christ wasn't perfect, could you Please explain how?

 

[QuikSand]

"But yet it is written in the Holy Bible recorded in the Book of Luke Jesus himself said he had to be perfected."

So then if Jesus the Christ wasn't perfect, could you Please explain how?

His flesh was from his mother. He inherited from her
flesh that was corruptible. All flesh became corruptible after sin was introduced into it. It became polluted and unholy.

 

[devin553344]

His flesh was from his mother. He inherited from her
flesh that was corruptible. All flesh became corruptible after sin was introduced into it. It became polluted and unholy.

I thought the Christian doctrine believed that Jesus the Christ was created from Holy Ghost alone and not from Mary at all. In Matthew it states:

{1:18} Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. {1:19} Then Joseph her husband, being a just [man,] and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. {1:20} But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. {1:21} And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

"of the Holy Ghost" appears to relate to belonging to the Holy Ghost as the parent has a child belonging to them. In that case the child Jesus was not of Mary's flesh. I'm left wondering where you had found that Jesus the Christ was of Mary's flesh? Scientifically there was no mating in the act of Jesus the Christ's conception but rather miraculous conception of the Holy Ghost, like the cell that he formed from was planted in her from God. I think I see it as a perfect cell created from the Holy Ghost, and therefore different than that of man upon the earth.

So then I guess the question is where you see how Jesus the Christ was of the Body of Mary?

 

[QuikSand]

So then I guess the question is where you see how Jesus the Christ was of the Body of Mary?

She was his mother.

 

[Greg J.]

To be able to pay for our sins, Jesus had to be human, but not just any kind of "human" (e.g., genetically duplicated), he had to be of our version of human, that is, from our "family" (Hebrews 2:11-14,17; point 1 in this post).

 

[QuikSand]

To be able to pay for our sins, Jesus had to be human, but not just any kind of "human" (e.g., genetically duplicated), he had to be of our version of human, that is, from our "family" (Hebrews 2:11-14,17; point 1 in this post).

So you believe he did not inherited any of the genetic makeup of his flesh from his mother?

 

[Albion]

"of the Holy Ghost" appears to relate to belonging to the Holy Ghost as the parent has a child belonging to them. In that case the child Jesus was not of Mary's flesh. I'm left wondering where you had found that Jesus the Christ was of Mary's flesh? Scientifically there was no mating in the act of Jesus the Christ's conception but rather miraculous conception of the Holy Ghost, like the cell that he formed from was planted in her from God. I think I see it as a perfect cell created from the Holy Ghost, and therefore different than that of man upon the earth.

The conception occurred according to the power of the Holy Ghost, but Mary had to carry this child for nine months or so, and all of that involves her body.

 

[Open Heart]

The gospel of Jesus the Christ is the good news.
The good news of grace and truth made known to this world through
the Holy Ghost by the name above all names Jesus the Christ the first born of God
the Son of the living God the son of man given birth by woman
to which came from man.

For it is written in the Holy Bible...
the scriptures of truth inspired by God.

In the beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made that was made.

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to become the sons of God,

Which were born of God.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Have you received the Word?

If you will receive the Word
God will give you power to become a son of God.
And if you become a son of God by that power
You will become born of God.

And if you become born of God
You will cease from doing sin.

If we say we have sin and say we are born of God
then we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

Did you have a question in here somewhere?

 

[QuikSand]

Jesus was without sin because He obeyed
the commandments of God.

It is when you disobey
the commandments of God that you sin.

If Adam and Eve had obeyed
the commandment of God
they too would have been without sin.

Jesus saved himself from sin by not committing it.

To not commit sin you have to obey
the commandments of God.

Therefore if you obey
commandments of God
which Jesus was given by God to give to you...

you will save yourself from sin.

That is what is called....
receiving the free gift of salvation.

 

[Standing Up]

Jesus was without sin because He obeyed
the commandments of God.

It is when you disobey
the commandments of God that you sin.

If Adam and Eve had obeyed
the commandment of God
they too would have been without sin.

Jesus saved himself from sin by not committing it.

To not commit sin you have to obey
the commandments of God.

Therefore if you obey
commandments of God
which Jesus was given by God to give to you...

you will save yourself from sin.

That is what is called....
receiving the free gift of salvation.

Not exactly. We not only sin, but we also "received" the effect of Adam's sin, which is spiritual death; we're born spiritually dead. Christ was born of God's blood and Mary's seed. Christ was thus born without sin or its effect. He lived and obeyed, yet paid the price for our sin. Since He was perfect, however, He rose from the dead. Believe that and you are saved by His grace through faith.

Hope that clarifies.

PS. You can't somehow work for grace (unmerited favor).

 

[QuikSand]

People on earth today
teach and preach and believe
that Jesus was always perfect.

But yet it is written in the Holy Bible
recorded in the Book of Luke
Jesus himself said he had to be perfected.

Why will you not believe
that Jesus was not perfect reading
how he had to be perfected
as recorded in the Holy Bible?

People on earth today teach
and preach and believe
that Jesus was the
only one perfect.

But yet it is written in the Holy Bible
recorded in the Book of Genesis
God saw every thing that he had made,
and, behold, it was very good.

Why will you not believe
that the man Adam was perfect?

As recorded in the Book of Genesis
in the Holy Bible?

So then if Jesus the Christ wasn't perfect,
could you Please explain how?

His flesh was from his mother.
He inherited from her
flesh that was corruptible.
All flesh became corruptible
after sin was introduced into it.
It became polluted and unholy.

 

[Standing Up]

People on earth today
teach and preach and believe
that Jesus was always perfect.

But yet it is written in the Holy Bible
recorded in the Book of Luke
Jesus himself said he had to be perfected.

This is in relation to His resurrection on the third day.

And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected. Lk 13:32

It had nothing to do with Christ being imperfect (in sin somehow).

Sin is failing to obey a commandment. Adam sinned. God told him do not eat. Eve was deceived. From Adam's sin, we are born dead. You must be born again.

Christ never disobeyed. Never sinned.

 

[QuikSand]

This is your opinion...not mine.

This is in relation to His resurrection on the third day.

And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected. Lk 13:32

It had nothing to do with Christ being imperfect (in sin somehow).

Sin is failing to obey a commandment. Adam sinned. God told him do not eat. Eve was deceived. From Adam's sin, we are born dead. You must be born again.

Christ never disobeyed. Never sinned.

When you can prove it to be the truth then
you can speak it to me as the truth.

 

[QuikSand]

Most everything you believe is hearsay.

Not proven. Everything I believe is proven.

 

[Albion]

Not exactly. We not only sin, but we also "received" the effect of Adam's sin, which is spiritual death; we're born spiritually dead.

Original Sin.

Christ was born of God's blood and Mary's seed.

Christ was born of Mary. It was her blood, etc. What God did was cause the conception to occur.

Christ was thus born without sin or its effect.

No, he was born without sin because he was God and God cannot be sin. Nothing more intricate is involved.

 

[QuikSand]

Original Sin.


Christ was born of Mary. It was her blood, etc. What God did was cause the conception to occur.


No, he was born without sin because he was God and God cannot be sin. Nothing more intricate is involved.

Everyone is born without sin.