Remember our righteousness is in Christ not following the law.
Yes, our righteousness is in Christ. But God's grace is not a license for immorality.
"For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you.
They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord." (
Jude 1:4 NIV).
Christ saves us both in Justification and in Sanctification.
"But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof." (Romans 13:14).
As for the Law:
Well, we are not under the Old Law, but we do establish the Old Law (the moral aspect of the Old Law) by the faith that comes from the teachings of Jesus Christ (That comes from Him and His followers) under the New Testament.
"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea,
we establish the law." (Romans 3:31).
8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if
there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love
is the fulfilling of the law." (Romans 13:8-10).
Loving your neighbor is a part of the New Covenant that fuflills that rigteous aspect of the Old Law (See Romans 8:2-4).
You are not free salvation wise in regards to all Law (i.e. New Covenant Law) because even you said that a person doing a lot of sin is not saved.
Why are they not saved? Because they are breaking God's laws.
Paul says if any man speaks contrary to the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and they know nothing (1 Timothy 6:3-4).
James says God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble.
The one who seeks to justify their right standing with God while they disobey God's laws under the New Testament (even just one of them) is not being humble. They are turning God's grace into a license for immorality. Yes, it only takes the justifying of doing one evil or sin with the thinking you are saved in order to turn God's grace into a doctrine for immorality.
rj330 said:
Pressing on toward the goal is walking in Christ.
No disagreement with this statement here, but when we dig a little deeper into what you believe and or we peel back the layers of your belief like an onion, we see something rotten on the inside. This would be your belief that salvation is like a license to sin on some level (because you said one sin cannot separate you from God salvation wise).
rj330 said:
For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh, though I also might have confidence in the flesh. If anyone else thinks he may have confidence in the flesh, I more so: circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; concerning zeal, persecuting the church; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. - Philippians 3:3-14
Bible Gateway passage: Philippians 3:3-14 - Common English Bible
Christ lives inside of Paul and every other true believer. Paul is talking about gaining the prize of Christ in the sense of meeting Christ in the resurrection. For Christ has only one physical body.
Also, when Paul says he is not having any confidence in the Law, he is talking about the Old Law (i.e. the 613 Commands from the Old Testament) and not all law. When Paul says he will be found not having his own righteousness, he is not talking about just believing on Jesus while Paul stumbles into sin every once in a while. Paul is talking about not only trusting in Jesus as His Savior but he is also talking about how he has allowed Christ to work within his life.
"For to me to live
is Christ, and to die
is gain." (Philippians 1:21).
rj330 said:
Remember God judge's our hearts. Have we walked in faith? God knows if our hearts are right and if we will repent or our sin. He is not going to cast us out based upon a look of lust and then getting hit by a bus. Or a moment of hateful feeling towards a brother who might have wronged us in some fashion and we get it by a bus before getting a chance to repent.
Paul said he had not yet attained or been perfected but he is pressing on in faith.
Ananais and Saphirra did not get a chance to repent of their sin of lying to the Holy Ghost.
They died instantly and a great fear fell upon the church and all who heard it.
With your belief, there is no reason to truly work out our salvation with fear and trembling.
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