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I used to be a Taoist too, ya'know. I would drink tea, admire art, meditate and think whatever I wanted because it was a blank slate and I was in my rebellious phase. Lord forgives the sins of our youth.

2 Corinthians 7:10
Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.

Jesus knows that we are sinners and that we have a sinful nature that cannot be expunged in this realm. He doesn't expect us to be sinless, but to come to Him to be restored. You clearly have acknowledged the desire to repent and reject the sins of your past. Though you are writhing against your own mind, this is a godly sorrow as it is concerned with spiritual matters; it is NOT worldly sorrow.

Luke 15:7
I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.
 
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Honestly the more I look at the Old Testament the more I wonder. Satan has no true authority in the Bible, only permitted to do what God allows, as stated in Job. And the more I look at the Bible, the more I feel horrified by it:

Even if we discount hell being eternal punishment, there's also...

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.
(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’ (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’(Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)

The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered.” O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don’t give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, “All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children.”(Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

That night the angel of the Lord went forth and struck down one hundred and eighty five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. Early the next morning, there they were, all the corpuses of the dead. (2 Kings 19:35 NAB)

(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, “All of you who are on the LORD’s side, come over here and join me.” And all the Levites came. He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.” The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, “Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing.” (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. (Numbers 31:7-18)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. (Dueteronomy 20:10-14)

All those things are repulsive and evil. God commanded a good number of those., and he never rebuked anyone for those. Most people probably don't know of those parts of the Bible. With those in account—and that's not even all I could have posted—it's no wonder people can be so stricken with fear and racing thoughts about it.
You only need to post the passage, as in 1 CORINTHIANS 2:14. It will be highlighted, folks can click on it for the full text. [correction added]

All of your citations are from the OT. You cannot, must not, apply them to those who are Christian or who desire to become Christian. Scripture in the OT is written for us, but not TO us. Our hope is built on Jesus' Blood and His Righteousness.
 
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You only need to post the passage, as in 1 CORINTHIANS 2:14. It will be highlighted, folks can click on it for the full text. [correction added]

All of your citations are from the OT. You cannot, must not, apply them to those who are Christian or who desire to become Christian. Scripture in the OT is written for us, but not TO us. Our hope is built on Jesus' Blood and His Righteousness.


The OT may not have been written to us, but it was included in the Bible. If the OT is fact, it happened and God did command those things. We can't just say "the Old Testament wasn't written to us" and act like those many passages aren't there.
 
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I can't stop these thoughts. I feel like God hates me and doesn't want to save me. I've had disgusting thoughts against the trinity. I have blasphemed against the HS. I had thoughts of cursing Him and telling Him to go away or go to hell. I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. But I can't control it. I am so scared.

Edit: Also the word(s) G-D in my head. I don't use that language anymore. I don't know why it's come back.
you're not alone brother, i get disgusting images in my mind a lot too. god wont hate you for them, he knows you hate those thoughts/images and reject them with all your might. whenever you get discouraged from those thoughts, just say to yourself: "he knows I can't control my thoughts, he wouldn't reject me for something I cant control", just like sin, you can't control it. you're protected and forgiven by Jesus's blood. some thoughts/images are pretty cringey though, but the fact we find them disgusting means our hearts don't accept such thoughts, which it good.
 
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I can't stop these thoughts. I feel like God hates me and doesn't want to save me. I've had disgusting thoughts against the trinity. I have blasphemed against the HS. I had thoughts of cursing Him and telling Him to go away or go to hell. I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. But I can't control it. I am so scared.

Edit: Also the word(s) G-D in my head. I don't use that language anymore. I don't know why it's come back.

The only unforgivable sin is rejecting Gods Spirit. You have problems but it concerns you.
It would be a bad indicator if you were not concerned. But you are, and that is good.
It's a simple fact that you can not stop thoughts easily, but you can replace any thoughts

you wish with better ones. Just practice the thoughts and actions you wish to have.
The more you practice, the easier it gets.
 
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The only unforgivable sin is rejecting Gods Spirit.

No, the Bible clearly states it's Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, It's mentioned one time in the Bible and any other claims to what it is come from some Hotshot preacher that isn't telling the truth, but it might make em look good to whoever isn't paying attention and checking this stuff out for themselves.

If I'm wrong, show me.
 
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As to the OP, if they aren't sure what is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, might I make a strange suggestion? Don't look into it. Id guess you haven't Blasphemed, but sure as you know what it is, you might do it.

Also, if someone is not in control, it is not them doing whatever they are doing, so that needs to be considered as well. God is fair ad even some of his rules are over ridden due to extenuating circumstance, just as they are our law of the land..
 
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As to the OP, if they aren't sure what is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, might I make a strange suggestion? Don't look into it. Id guess you haven't Blasphemed, but sure as you know what it is, you might do it.

Also, if someone is not in control, it is not them doing whatever they are doing, so that needs to be considered as well. God is fair ad even some of his rules are over ridden due to extenuating circumstance, just as they are our law of the land..

I think I've heard all the major theories. I feel shut out by God. I want to be saved but I don't know if I can.
 
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I think I've heard all the major theories. I feel shut out by God. I want to be saved but I don't know if I can.

Did anything posters brought up here seem like it could be helpful to you? If so, what? It's at least a starting point.
 
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Did anything posters brought up here seem like it could be helpful to you? If so, what? It's at least a starting point.

Some of it. I don't understand some things. Like someone quoted psalms.... and some of it is pretty off topic.... Still, a lot of people are saying medication. I'd take it if I could get it.
 
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The OT may not have been written to us, but it was included in the Bible. If the OT is fact, it happened and God did command those things. We can't just say "the Old Testament wasn't written to us" and act like those many passages aren't there.
Those passages are definitely there. Their purpose is not for judging God, ourselves or others.
 
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The only unforgivable sin is rejecting Gods Spirit. You have problems but it concerns you.
It would be a bad indicator if you were not concerned. But you are, and that is good.
It's a simple fact that you can not stop thoughts easily, but you can replace any thoughts

you wish with better ones. Just practice the thoughts and actions you wish to have.
The more you practice, the easier it gets.
I remember a psychiatrist friend who told his clients exactly that. He told them to recall the original thoughts, their imagery, their fears, then walk though each aspect of the process, replacing it as you go. For example, if you constantly think you are in danger of driving your car into a tree (usually the same tree, over-and-over again), remove the tree. Insert a beautiful highway, a smile on your face, and your vehicle running like new. Do that every time that thought process seeks to begin.
 
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I remember a psychiatrist friend who told his clients exactly that. He told them to recall the original thoughts, their imagery, their fears, then walk though each aspect of the process, replacing it as you go. For example, if you constantly think you are in danger of driving your car into a tree (usually the same tree, over-and-over again), remove the tree. Insert a beautiful highway, a smile on your face, and your vehicle running like new. Do that every time that thought process seeks to begin.

Vividly visualizing has the same results as reality.
 
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I think they don't believe me. They mean well but they don't believe me. It's like if I told them I was terrified unicorns would stab me. They don't believe in unicorns.

But do they believe in people being afraid? Becasue unicorns are not the problem.
 
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