Question on Noah's Ark

[SkyWriting]

"Genetic front loading" is impossible in dipoloid reproduction. It simply isn't taken seriously by anyone other than Creationists.

God knows every moment and movement of any DNA.

 

[SkyWriting]

It's called a genetic bottleneck and it is already apparant when population sizes drop to a few thousand individuals. It would be EXTREMELY apparant if it drops to a mere 8 - when 3 of which are even siblings.

God can designed it all. You're talking about events today.

 

[SkyWriting]

Considering we have 100% undeniable scientific proof that a world wide flood did not happened, that we're not going to find any is a given.

Science has no proofs of anything.
It is useful for making predictions
about future events. Not past.

Just try and predict a past event.
I'll wait.........................

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Hi, can you give me a brief summary on what your position on this is?

In one word, his position is "magic".

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

God can designed it all. You're talking about events today.

Actually, no.

Genetic bottlenecks are about events of the past.

Just like the footprints in this picture, tell us something about a past event. That event being, "a person walked here":

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Science has no proofs of anything.
It is useful for making predictions
about future events. Not past.

Just try and predict a past event.
I'll wait.........................

You don't "predict" past events. You conclude them.

A human walked here.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Can you remind us where the part is that wasn't left out about the world before creation being ruined?

Not sure I understand the question. Can you rephrase it?

 

[AirPo]

Science has no proofs of anything.
It is useful for making predictions
about future events. Not past.

Just try and predict a past event.
I'll wait.........................

Science proves past things wrong. Like a literal global flood.

 

[dad]

Same genes, different conditions so to speak.

I'm still at a loss on what it is that you believe in exactly. There really is no need to be shy about giving a summary on your position. You think science evil, right?

No. Not same genes and just different conditions. You have no genes from Adam or Noah's day so you do not know that!

 

[dad]

Not sure I understand the question. Can you rephrase it?

"That would be my guess; ruin/restoration; except the bible leaves out the restoration part.."

I asked for the bible support for the ruin part. Actually the restoration also if you mean creation week.

 

[MarianaT]

Just try and predict a past event.
I'll wait.........................

That's not science, that's prophecy.

 

[JD16]

That's not science, that's prophecy.

Not exactly, its actually history

 

[miknik5]

Google "genetic bottleneck" and read or whatch a 3 minute video. It's not hard.
But I doubt you care enough about being rational to go through that effort.

Having said that, in reality, a population as small as what is depicted in your story, is doomed to extinction. The lack of genetic variation is fatal.

Why?

If their genes were PURE why would there be a need for genetic variation to ensure healthy offspring?

 

[JD16]

Why?

If their genes were PURE why would there be a need for genetic variation to ensure healthy offspring?

Its not a matter of genetic pureness (whatever that means) Without genetic variations, it would lead to inbreeding and severe genetic defects which would ultimately cause the human species to go extinct

 

[miknik5]

Its not a matter of genetic pureness (whatever that means) Without genetic variations, it would lead to inbreeding and severe genetic defects which would ultimately cause the human species to go extinct

It IS a matter of genetic PURENESS

If in that time, man's gene pool was less compromised (more pure) than today, why would inbreeding have caused any defects

This along with the probability that the environment was less conpromised, why would there even be defects?

Come to think about it, isn't it only in the account of Leah that we even begin to hear the first incident of some sort of "condition"?

 

[JD16]

It IS a matter of genetic PURENESS

If inntgat time, man's gene pool was more pure than today, why would inbreeding have caused any defects

This along with the probability that the environment was less conpromised, why would there even be defects?

Come to think about it, isn't it only in the account of Leah that we even begin to hear the first incident of some sort of "condition"?

First, what is genetic pureness, describe it in scientific terms, and please don't quote me 300 verses from the bible k?

If you can't state it without resorting to bible quotes,... let me ask you, do you understand genetics? Its a serious question....

If you don't and you insist on going by the biblical account, I'm not going to engage in this with you as this is the science forum

 

[miknik5]

By the way, Noah lived how long?

If a child fully matures at the age of 13, and Noah's 3 sons had children and each of these children at the age of thirteen had children and so in and so forth

that's a lot of "children"

 

[miknik5]

First, what is genetic pureness, describe it in scientific terms, and please don't quote me 300 verses from the bible k?

If you can't state it without resorting to bible quotes,... let me ask you, do you understand genetics? Its a serious question....

If you don't and you insist on going by the biblical account, I'm not going to engage in this with you as this is the science forum

UNcompromised DNA UNeffected DNA

Beautiful, perfect, spotless DNA
No disease and not diseased

 

[JD16]

By the way, Noah lived how long?

If a child fully matures at the age of 13, and Noah's 3 sons had children and each of these children at the age of thirteen had children and so in and so forth

that's a lot of "children"

Please answer my question thanks

 

[miknik5]

and I will quote the WORD of TRUTH

It was NECESSARY that 8 be saved

8!

Nothing more and nothing less that 8