Honoluluwindow
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Putting me in check..ok I'll play. It's an antinomy isn't it.Are they contradictory?
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Putting me in check..ok I'll play. It's an antinomy isn't it.Are they contradictory?
Putting me in check..ok I'll play. It's an antinomy isn't it.
I answered you.I'm not interested in playing games—just asking a question, friend. I simply want to know if you think they are contradictory.
I answered you.
Here's the antinomy, God saves man without anything man does except having faith.
if faith is required then that is a condition.No, you asked a question (although you didn't use a question mark).
How is that an antimony?
if faith is required then that is a condition.
Going to football practice here shortly but would like to understand these things in a deeper way. Thanks for putting up with the sarcasm
Exactly my point. God can't do it again because He said He wouldn't do it again with a flood. Does God have the power to flood the earth again? Of course He can. But He placed a self imposed limitation upon His divine sovereignty and thus He cannot destroy the earth again with a flood.
Making His own choice and then sticking to it is not a limitation of His sovereignty. Rather, because He cannot be forced into a reconsideration of His decision, He is emphasizing His authority.
All things, whether good or evil, are determined by God to happen, hence,
Yes, God has foreknowledge, but that's not predestination which refers to him choosing his elect, and perhaps also the damned, before their births.But "Determined" is a limited human mental construct.
God knows every position of every election in all time
and knew all this before He formed the world.
Yes, God has foreknowledge, but that's not predestination which refers to him choosing his elect, and perhaps also the damned, before their births.
So by this are you saying that we can no nothing, or that it would be a waste of time to try to understand anything?
I suppose I'd agree with that, but it doesn't prevent us from believing that God sees the future as well as the past or all things at all times, if that's better.
They say that because they expected or hoped that God would spare them whatever setback it was, right? That doesn't seem to me to be at odds with believing in God's omniscience or foreknowledge.Sure. The only problem is that we RESPOND with....then why did (yammer yammer) happen to me?
So by this are you saying that we can no nothing, or that it would be a waste of time to try to understand anything?
You can do nothing to surprise God, as it was His design.
Like I said, it's impossible for humans to conceive and
you are flummoxed.