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I am not SDA denomination but do agree with them on the keeping of God's Holy seventh day Sabbath...this day was created as the seventh day of creation week Genesis 2, God rested, blessed the day and sanctified it...and God put it in the Ten commandments as the fourth commandment Exodus 20...Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath, the apostles kept it....thats good enough for me to keep it...No other day of the week was given this Holy standing by God...
 
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I love my Brothers and Sisters who are 7th day,I simply disagree with some of the doctrine they follow.
Not the Sabbath but the importance of Ellen White as a prophet.
God's Word is all I consider for truth,if a teacher is teaching from the Word not embellishing it I'm fine.

The trick is, not all Sabbatarians accept Ellen G White's teaching. The 7th Day Baptists (who predated the Adventist group), for instance, hold to historic Baptist beliefs. They just worship on Saturdays instead of Sundays, being persuaded so by the Scriptures.
(Full disclosure: I'm not a 7th Day Baptist.)
 
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I was raised a Seventh-day Adventist, but God brought me out of it through a teaching on grace vs. law. When that "light bulb" shown bright, I never again believed only one denomination has "the TRUTH."

That is not saying that the Seventh-day Adventist denomination is a cult. Far from it. They cannot be likened to Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses, because the SDA core beliefs are all Christian, whereas these other two are not. SDA's are Trinitarian. EG White didn't give us a different gospel, only her own interpretations of actual scripture. For that matter, John Calvin did the same thing and now we have Calvinism.

The major difference is in SDA's belief in the Ten Commandments. I would say that 9.9 out of 10 Christians would say the same. The Ten Commandments is deemed the hallmark of Christian living. However, let's look at it from another view. Ex. 34:28 says that the Ten Commandments was the COVENANT. Not part of the covenant, but THE Covenant. So are we under the Old Covenant or are we under the New Covenant?

Every covenant had a "sign" of that covenant. Noah's covenant with God was the rainbow. Abraham's covenant's sign was circumcision. The world has not been destroyed by fire, so Noah's covenant still stands. However, Abraham's covenant was fulfilled in Jesus, the Seed, thus there was an end to the command to circumcise boys. The same goes with the Ten Commandments. The Sabbath was put in the midst of the Commandments as it's sign in Exodus 31:13. Jesus is our Sabbath rest. He is the substance of the Sabbath. The Old Testament Sabbath was merely a shadow of what was to come, Col. 2.

So what about our New Covenant? And what is our New Covenant based on? It is based on the Blood of Jesus. Maybe you've read this a hundred times and didn't grasp the true value of this verse - 1 Corinthians 11, "In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood."

Do you see it? The cup is the sign of our New Covenant. So what do you do with the old sign? The same as God did with circumcision. It has been fulfilled.

Yes, Jesus said to keep His commandments as He has kept His father's commandments. But they are not the SAME commandments. So what are the commandments of Jesus? John tells us. 1 John 3:22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

You see, these are positive. They are do this, whereas the old said, don't do this. We have gone full circle back to the original - "Love God with your whole heart, soul and body, and love your neighbor as yourself."

Acts 2:38 says to Repent and be baptized in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Romans 7 show us Paul's life as a Pharisee trying to keep the law in his own strength. It was a battle of mind over flesh. Righteousness does not come by keeping the law in your own strength, but by the power of God living through us. Romans 8:9 says " 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His."

We are no longer UNDER the law, but we live ABOVE it by walking in the Spirit. Gal. 5:16 says, "16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh."
 
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I was raised a Seventh-day Adventist, but God brought me out of it through a teaching on grace vs. law. When that "light bulb" shown bright, I never again believed only one denomination has "the TRUTH."

That is not saying that the Seventh-day Adventist denomination is a cult. Far from it. They cannot be likened to Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses, because the SDA core beliefs are all Christian, whereas these other two are not. SDA's are Trinitarian. EG White didn't give us a different gospel, only her own interpretations of actual scripture. For that matter, John Calvin did the same thing and now we have Calvinism.

The major difference is in SDA's belief in the Ten Commandments. I would say that 9.9 out of 10 Christians would say the same. The Ten Commandments is deemed the hallmark of Christian living. However, let's look at it from another view. Ex. 34:28 says that the Ten Commandments was the COVENANT. Not part of the covenant, but THE Covenant. So are we under the Old Covenant or are we under the New Covenant?

Every covenant had a "sign" of that covenant. Noah's covenant with God was the rainbow. Abraham's covenant's sign was circumcision. The world has not been destroyed by fire, so Noah's covenant still stands. However, Abraham's covenant was fulfilled in Jesus, the Seed, thus there was an end to the command to circumcise boys. The same goes with the Ten Commandments. The Sabbath was put in the midst of the Commandments as it's sign in Exodus 31:13. Jesus is our Sabbath rest. He is the substance of the Sabbath. The Old Testament Sabbath was merely a shadow of what was to come, Col. 2.

So what about our New Covenant? And what is our New Covenant based on? It is based on the Blood of Jesus. Maybe you've read this a hundred times and didn't grasp the true value of this verse - 1 Corinthians 11, "In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood."

Do you see it? The cup is the sign of our New Covenant. So what do you do with the old sign? The same as God did with circumcision. It has been fulfilled.

Yes, Jesus said to keep His commandments as He has kept His father's commandments. But they are not the SAME commandments. So what are the commandments of Jesus? John tells us. 1 John 3:22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

You see, these are positive. They are do this, whereas the old said, don't do this. We have gone full circle back to the original - "Love God with your whole heart, soul and body, and love your neighbor as yourself."

Acts 2:38 says to Repent and be baptized in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Romans 7 show us Paul's life as a Pharisee trying to keep the law in his own strength. It was a battle of mind over flesh. Righteousness does not come by keeping the law in your own strength, but by the power of God living through us. Romans 8:9 says " 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His."

We are no longer UNDER the law, but we live ABOVE it by walking in the Spirit. Gal. 5:16 says, "16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh."


1st CenturyLady in Post #83:

<< SDA's are Trinitarian. EG White didn't give us a different gospel, only her own interpretations of actual scripture. >>


On the SDA being Trinitarian, I assume you mean that the founding prophetess, Ellen White, is Trinitarian. Let's check that.


In The Life Sketches of Ellen White, her autobiography:
The word "trinity" does not appear.


In Ellen White's Testimonies for the Church, Volume 5:
The word "trinity" does not appear.


In Ellen White's Testimonies for the Church, Volume 6:
The word "trinity" does not appear.


In Ellen White's Testimonies on Sexual Behavior, Adultery and Divorce:
The word "trinity" does not appear.


Ellen White's writings are volumous. Can anyone point to any passage where EW used the word Trinity?
 
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Joshua: 10. 12. Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Would this event make Sunday the last rather than the first day of the week?
 
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1st CenturyLady in Post #83:

<< SDA's are Trinitarian. EG White didn't give us a different gospel, only her own interpretations of actual scripture. >>


On the SDA being Trinitarian, I assume you mean that the founding prophetess, Ellen White, is Trinitarian. Let's check that.


In The Life Sketches of Ellen White, her autobiography:
The word "trinity" does not appear.


In Ellen White's Testimonies for the Church, Volume 5:
The word "trinity" does not appear.


In Ellen White's Testimonies for the Church, Volume 6:
The word "trinity" does not appear.


In Ellen White's Testimonies on Sexual Behavior, Adultery and Divorce:
The word "trinity" does not appear.


Ellen White's writings are volumous. Can anyone point to any passage where EW used the word Trinity?

So what? Seventh-day Adventists get their Trinitarian doctrine from the Bible. Do you honestly think EGW has to mention everything in the Bible for SDAs to believe it? Good grief! Or is this just hate talking?

I was raised SDA and always believed in the Trinity.
 
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So what? Seventh-day Adventists get their Trinitarian doctrine from the Bible. Do you honestly think EGW has to mention everything in the Bible for SDAs to believe it? Good grief! Or is this just hate talking?

I was raised SDA and always believed in the Trinity.


I've been told that the SDA spend a lot more time reading Ellen White than they spend reading the Bible. EW certainly didn't know what was in the Bible.
 
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I am not a seventh day adventist, although I do believe Saturday is the day of worship.



No where in the bible can I find where it says I have to go to church to be saved. The Isrealites, maybe.

Actually, Ephesians says we are saved by grace. The words and thoughts "and nothing more" you are adding to the bible. Jesus says we must follow the commandments. Jesus says we must repent. Jesus says we must love our neighbors as ourselves. There is more.



Some religions teach lies, the doctrines of men. If someone is not rightous God does not hear their prayers. It is possible for unrightous person to attend a rightous church and vice versa.

Again, going to church is not a requirement for salvation.

At one time I indepentantly came to the conclusion that Michael may indeed be Jesus. I researched the word angel and concluded it doesn't neccessarily always mean an angel but means a messanger. I also came to the conclusion it doesn't matter one way or the other if Michael is an angel or Jesus, the bible's doctrine does not change one way or another. It is as Paul says, there is one man who esteems obe day over another, it doesn't matter leave them alone (heavy paraphrasing). How many heads can dance on the head of a pin and if Michael is Jesus michael simply don't matter for our salvation so why argue about it?



I am told to repent, love my neighbor as myself, accept Jesus sacrifice for my sins. Be baptised. Anything else is beyond our control and out of our hands. Any speculation beyond that is not for our salvation but how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. It doesn't matter what you believe here, as long as you don't teach others they must believe as you do to be saved.



Again with the angels and pins.




We have no clue what Jesus is doing in heaven, and no way to know outside of prophecy. Again, angels and pins, doesn't matter in the slightest.



Now this I actually believe. I believe I was actually sinless for about five seconds once before I became proud of being sinless. Yes, I believe we become sinless as we repent of our on going sins. But as soon as we sin again, as we inevidibly will, we are no longer in this state.

This depends on your concept of what sinless means.



I've never heard this doctrine taught and it seems to be a false doctrine, but not one that would ruin one's salvation. False teaching, yes. Is anyone perfect? No.

I have heard it said by some in the Catholic church that we are in the millenium reign now. Just as wrong.



Revelation 20 tells us that only the ones beheaded for Christ are awake during the thousand year reign, so there is some biblical text supporting this. Here we are counting angels dancing again.

Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.



Hell for eternity is real. Annihilation may be real at the same time. Belief in hell or not doesn't change one's salvation unless one only gets saved out of fear (save some by love, some by fear). There are concepts that our mortal minds can not comprehend, how we can suffer for an eternity in hell at the same time being annihilated. God made time, He is not controlled by it.




Repeat my last.



I believe that vegetarianism could be a good thing, but the bible doesn't teach it after the flood.



We are not to be respectors of persons.


The problem is that the SDA reach their conclusion that Saturday is the required day of worship by misunderstanding and misconstruing important parts of the New Testament. Take the passages where Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, which appear in three of the Gospels. The obvious conclusion is that Jesus is saying that He will not follow the Pharisaic rules on the Sabbath or tell his followers to do so. The SDA stand these passages on their head. They ignore the thrust of the passage, zoom in on the words "Lord of the Sabbath," and conclude that the sabbath is important.

So that you can see what we are talking about here:

12 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”
3 He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? 6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. 7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

--Matthew 12: 1-8 NIV



23 One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. 24 The Pharisees said to him, “Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?”
25 He answered, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? 26 In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.”
27 Then he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28 So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

--Mark 2: 23-27 NIV



6 One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and his disciples began to pick some heads of grain, rub them in their hands and eat the kernels. 2 Some of the Pharisees asked, “Why are you doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?”
3 Jesus answered them, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and taking the consecrated bread, he ate what is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.” 5 Then Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Luke 6: 1-5 NIV
 
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The problem is that the SDA reach their conclusion that Saturday is the required day of worship by misunderstanding and misconstruing important parts of the New Testament. Take the passages where Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, which appear in three of the Gospels. The obvious conclusion is that Jesus is saying that He will not follow the Pharisaic rules on the Sabbath or tell his followers to do so. The SDA stand these passages on their head. They ignore the thrust of the passage, zoom in on the words "Lord of the Sabbath," and conclude that the sabbath is important.

So that you can see what we are talking about here:

12 At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”
3 He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? 6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. 7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

--Matthew 12: 1-8 NIV



23 One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. 24 The Pharisees said to him, “Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?”
25 He answered, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? 26 In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.”
27 Then he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28 So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

--Mark 2: 23-27 NIV



6 One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and his disciples began to pick some heads of grain, rub them in their hands and eat the kernels. 2 Some of the Pharisees asked, “Why are you doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?”
3 Jesus answered them, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and taking the consecrated bread, he ate what is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.” 5 Then Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Luke 6: 1-5 NIV

And you make the mistake of thinking that the day God called holy is unimportant.
 
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I've been told that the SDA spend a lot more time reading Ellen White than they spend reading the Bible. EW certainly didn't know what was in the Bible.

Conjectures. Just repeating what you've been told without proof is gossip. Stop sinning. I went to Adventist schools, and never once studied Ellen G. White's teachings in Bible class.

Sermons are based on the Bible, and occasionally EGW's thoughts will be mentioned.

They are wonderful people, and your brothers and sisters in the Lord.
 
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And you make the mistake of thinking that the day God called holy is unimportant.

Jim, I'm curious if you read #83 above. I'd like your thoughts. Basically:

Saturday is the Old Testament Sabbath. Sunday never replaced the Sabbath, but that was to the Jews under the law, and the sign of their covenant with God - the Ten Commandments (Exodus 34:28).

That sign, of which Jesus is the substance, ended when it was fulfilled, and a new sign of a new covenant took its place, based on better promises. This new covenant is based on the BLOOD of Jesus and why our new sign is the CUP OF THE NEW COVENANT.
 
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Saturday is the Old Testament Sabbath. Sunday never replaced the Sabbath, but that was to the Jews under the law, and the sign of their covenant with God - the Ten Commandments (Exodus 34:28).

The ten commandments was not the covenant, the law of moses was the covenant. The ten commandments are just describing what sin is, which under Jesus we are commanded to follow.

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Yes, I know the doctrine of men says that Jesus wasn't talkibg to us. The doctrine of men is wrong. Jesus said it, I believe it, that's good enough for me. I am not trying to lawyer my way into heaven.

Now, it should be noted that Jesus did not say keep the sabbath holy, and you've hit on the reason for this, the new covenant. The new covenant says that we are not saved by works. The ten commandments are not works except for going to church, which is why Jesus left it out. That does not mean, however, that God does not want you to worship on his holy day, he just doesn't command it anymore.

You do not have to go to church to be saved. If you do decide to go to church you should do so on the day God reveres. You do have to try to follow the commandments (repent, try not to sin) to be saved. There is no forgiveness without repentance.
 
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The ten commandments was not the covenant, the law of moses was the covenant. The ten commandments are just describing what sin is, which under Jesus we are commanded to follow.

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Yes, I know the doctrine of men says that Jesus wasn't talkibg to us. The doctrine of men is wrong. Jesus said it, I believe it, that's good enough for me. I am not trying to lawyer my way into heaven.

Now, it should be noted that Jesus did not say keep the sabbath holy, and you've hit on the reason for this, the new covenant. The new covenant says that we are not saved by works. The ten commandments are not works except for going to church, which is why Jesus left it out. That does not mean, however, that God does not want you to worship on his holy day, he just doesn't command it anymore.

You do not have to go to church to be saved. If you do decide to go to church you should do so on the day God reveres. You do have to try to follow the commandments (repent, try not to sin) to be saved. There is no forgiveness without repentance.

You honestly believe I made that up, that the Ten Commandments was the covenant. Take it up with God. I study. I don't make things up.

Exodus 34:28 says clearly:

28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments
 
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You honestly believe I made that up, that the Ten Commandments was the covenant. Take it up with God. I study. I don't make things up.

Exodus 34:28 says clearly:

28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments

Tell me if Jesus mentioned the Sabbath to the rich young ruler. No? Well tell me which commandments He DID mention.


Do you even know what the commandments of Jesus are? Or just the Old Covenant. Study.

1 John 3:
22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave use commandment.
 
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You honestly believe I made that up, that the Ten Commandments was the covenant. Take it up with God. I study. I don't make things up.

Exodus 34:28 says clearly:

28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments

No matter what you call it, no matter what words you use, Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

2 Tinothy 2:14 Keep reminding God's people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.
 
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No matter what you call it, no matter what words you use, Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

2 Tinothy 2:14 Keep reminding God's people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.

Jim, I use the words of Jesus and the apostles. I think you answered before I completed the editing of the last post. I'll let you read the SCRIPTURE for yourself, then you can give a better answer.
 
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Jim, I use the words of Jesus and the apostles. I think you answered before I completed the editing of the last post. I'll let you read the SCRIPTURE for yourself, then you can give a better answer.

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No matter what you call it, no matter what words you use, Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

2 Tinothy 2:14 Keep reminding God's people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.

Don't you think you need to read 2 Timothy and apply yourself?

I use scripture, you use insults.
 
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When Jesus was on earth, before He died, He kept His Father's commandments. The New Covenant is a Will and Testament, and does NOT come into effect until after the death of the testator. However, while on earth while not teaching men to break His Father's commandments, He did introduce His own.

“As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

They are not identical.

Both His commandments and His Father's commandments, while similar, do not compare exactly. But both contain God's eternal law based on love: "Thou shall LOVE your Lord God will ALL your heart, soul and mind, And thou shall LOVE your neighbor as yourself."

The Father's commandments were to be kept in man's strength, and were commands NOT TO DO such and such, while Jesus' commandments were TO DO love, but not in our own strength, but by the power of the Holy Spirit.

1 John 3:22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another.

While on earth when the rich young ruler sought out Jesus and wanted to know which commandments he should keep. Jesus only mentioned the last six of His Father's commandments to our neighbor, knowing this man was under the law. Why? Why not also mention the Sabbath? Because Jesus IS OUR SABBATH REST. And it no longer one day of the week, but TODAY, everyday. The rich young ruler couldn't keep the last of Jesus' requirements, to sell everything and give it to the poor.

The Sabbath was a ceremonial feast, just like all the other ceremonial feasts we do not keep any longer once they were fulfilled. Jesus is the SUBSTANCE of ALL the ceremonial feasts.

Leviticus 23 New King James Version (NKJV)

Feasts of the Lord

1 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 “Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘The feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts.

The Sabbath
3 ‘Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

ETC. You can read about all the feasts, starting with the Sabbath in Leviticus 23.
 
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Don't you think you need to read 2 Timothy and apply yourself?

I use scripture, you use insults.

You consider this an insult?
No matter what you call it, no matter what words you use,

Fine, you will hear no more from me.
 
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