LDS More False Doctrine Right There in LDS Scripture!

[Rescued One]

This isn't one, but many of the Mormon social projects started in 1985,

No, our large welfare program began back in 1929 with the great depression. Harold B. Lee began it in his own stake and then it became the model for the whole church. Welfare Square was built in 1938 and remolded in the 1990s.

We've always had fast Sundays where we each skip two meals and the money not spent is donated to the church to help pay light bills, rent and doctor bills of those living in the ward.

During WW2 the Saints in Norway and other places planted potatoes and then at the end of the war they shipped them to Germany to feed the starving German people. General Eisenhower about fell off his chair.

We've been helping each other and others since the Church began.

Eisenhower didn't become President until after the Marshall Plan was instituted. Christians have always helped other people. Are you tooting your own horn as if Mormons have more compassion than other people?

 

[Rescued One]

Just a thought, how many hours did he devote to each wife per week? How loving would this be? Does the bible command men to love their wives? Sad that Smith taught that this was from God anyway I am sure you agree that Smith was not following Gods word in this matter...

Also:
Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
1 Corinthians 7:5

 

[fatboys]

Eisenhower didn't become President until after the Marshall Plan was instituted. Christians have always helped other people. You're tooting your own horn as if Mormons have more compassion than other people.

Your jealous

 

[Rescued One]

Your jealous

An accusation such as that is attacking a poster rather than addressing the topic of the thread.

 

[fatboys]

An accusation such as that is attacking a poster rather than addressing the topic of the thread.

Saying your jealous is attacking you? Lol

 

[withwonderingawe]

I've never heard of any Christian thinking God is an "it." That's an impossible thought.

The you believe God is a man?

 

[withwonderingawe]

Eisenhower didn't become President until after the Marshall Plan was instituted. Christians have always helped other people. Are you tooting your own horn as if Mormons have more compassion than other people?

Marshall plan what does that have to do with it.

 

[Rescued One]

The you believe God is a man?

God is God. He loves His sheep and we cast all our cares and worries on Him because He cares and we find grace to help in time of need.

 

[withwonderingawe]

God is God. He loves His sheep and we cast all our cares and worries on Him because He cares and we find grace to help in time of need.

Does God have gender

 

[Rescued One]

Does God have gender

Does yours have intimate relations with his wives?

 

[fatboys]

Does yours have intimate relations with his wives?

Just answer the question

 

[withwonderingawe]

Does yours have intimate relations with his wives?

I should think so, part of the nice thing about having a physical body but I really don't know. I know he clothes our intelligence in pure matter but how that is done has never been reveled to us. I hope we have sex, it's a wonderful gift from God.

Or do you think sex is ugly and bad?

 

[withwonderingawe]

Recently the Mormons have again shifted strategy on same sex couples and children

No, they did everything they could to prevent gay marriage but at the same time love the sinner. I do believe the leaders asked a number of psychologist to come and explain the psychology behind it. We're told being gay is not a sin but acting on it is just as sex outside of marriage is. A while ago we had a bunch decide to leave the Church because we will no longer baptize children of Lesbians and Gays who live full time with the Gay parent. Mostly because no man can serve two masters and we should not place a child in the position of having to choose between their parents and the church. They will have to decided to follow Jesus as they come of age and are capable of making the choice.

I find it odd that a gay person would want to baptize their child into the Mormon Church.

 

[DJItalianspur]

Your misunderstanding on this has been correct MANY times now.

How about we ask the same question of the many massacres and entire wars done by mainstream Christians over the years? Clearly all men sin.

And once again you did not respond to a thing WWA said.

So we are mistaken about Mormons believing in more than one God then? There is only one God? There are no quotes we could find in the D&C to show that Mormons believe in more than one God?

Second point mainstream Christians or born again Christians?

 

[DJItalianspur]

Who did Joseph Smith Murder
Who did he steal from
Who did he lie to

During the wars why did Mormons massacre many? Who gave them this authority? We know the bible speaks against this, so what was Smith view on this? The bible also condones attacking the local press, interesting where Smith got his wisdom from when he authorised this, was it James 1:5?

This is why the authorities had to take him down, he was damaging society. Imagine what other doctines he would have invented, how many wives would he have ended up with, how many more deaths would there have been if Smith had lived longer?

As for the theft what material was stolen to compile the Book of Mormon? Was it Smiths own work?

The Book of Abraham was revealed to Smith by.... sorry he used funds to purchase it. Gods word came to Smith and he had to buy it. Smith claimed he could translate ancient Egyptian, but later guess what? Yes - the truth came out.

Are you seriously asking for proof that Joseph Smith lied? Maybe it is easier to find where he did not lie?

What would it take for you realise that Smith was not saved he never knew God he never repented of sin. The evidence is overwhelming!

Where does the bible fall short, where does the local church fall short? Why do we needs Smiths doctrines or modern day prophets? I challenge you to come up with one benefit of Mormonism?

 

[Ironhold]

During the wars why did Mormons massacre many?

What wars? You're not giving anything specific enough to respond to.

As for the theft what material was stolen to compile the Book of Mormon? Was it Smiths own work?

What are you even talking about?

The Book of Abraham was revealed to Smith by.... sorry he used funds to purchase it. Gods word came to Smith and he had to buy it. Smith claimed he could translate ancient Egyptian, but later guess what? Yes - the truth came out.

Based on period accounts, what was recovered is only a fraction of what Smith originally had in his possession. Since it was a work in progress at the time of his death, it's not entirely honest to argue that 100% of the Book of Abraham comes from 100% of what we have now.

 

[withwonderingawe]

During the wars why did Mormons massacre many?

Joseph Smith never killed anyone! The Mormon's were defending themselves but I explained that earlier.

This is why the authorities had to take him down, he was damaging society.

Basically it was he was against slavery and had a plan to get rid of it. These were not nice "authorities" they raped and murdered the very helpless Mormons. Most non Mormons really didn't know a lot about the plural wives as of yet.

Was it Smiths own work?

No it wasn't, it was written by a group of men tarting with Ether and then Nephi and then down to a man named Mormon who edited into what we call the Book of Mormon.

The Book of Abraham

Is a wonderful book and full of so many truths, if someone would care to start a thread on it we can discuss it.

Are you seriously asking for proof that Joseph Smith lied?

Name one!

You have got to get your head out of all this anti Mormon stuff or at least learn how to read propaganda.

 

[Jane_Doe]

So we are mistaken about Mormons believing in more than one God then? There is only one God?

This has been posted many times:

• baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matt. 28:19. ( 3 Ne. 11:25 . )

• I and my Father are one: John 10:30 .
• to us there is but one God: 1 Cor. 8:6 .
• Christ, who is the image of God: 2 Cor. 4:4 .
• dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily: Col. 2:9 .
• doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 2 Ne. 31:21 .

• they are one God: Mosiah 15:4 . ( 3 Ne. 11:36 ; D&C 20:28 . )
• We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son: A of F 1:1 .

There are no quotes we could find in the D&C to show that Mormons believe in more than one God?

LDS believe that there are more God consists of multiple persons, same as Trinitarians. The difference lies in the *how* they are believe to be one.

Second point mainstream Christians or born again Christians?

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[DJItalianspur]

What wars? You're not giving anything specific enough to respond to.



What are you even talking about?



Based on period accounts, what was recovered is only a fraction of what Smith originally had in his possession. Since it was a work in progress at the time of his death, it's not entirely honest to argue that 100% of the Book of Abraham comes from 100% of what we have now.

Have a look at historical evidence for the Mormon massacres, then see if scripture has anything to say on those who persecute you.

Should smith have purchased the fraction of the Book of Abraham which he could not translate, does a prophet do this, and claim it's Gods word?

 

[DJItalianspur]

This has been posted many times:

• baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matt. 28:19. ( 3 Ne. 11:25 . )

• I and my Father are one: John 10:30 .
• to us there is but one God: 1 Cor. 8:6 .
• Christ, who is the image of God: 2 Cor. 4:4 .
• dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily: Col. 2:9 .
• doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 2 Ne. 31:21 .

• they are one God: Mosiah 15:4 . ( 3 Ne. 11:36 ; D&C 20:28 . )
• We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son: A of F 1:1 .

LDS believe that there are more God consists of multiple persons, same as Trinitarians. The difference lies in the *how* they are believe to be one.

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Now look at some of the Mormons sources for the many Gods and becoming Gods. Bit of a contradiction on a fundamental issue.