Should Multi-user Unisex Public Restrooms be available?

[Winken]

Well let me give you an example on a bigger scale, the restrooms in Penn Station Manhattan. During rush hour some of the larger restrooms is like when a sports arena goes to intermission. They are U shaped, as you enter them you have stalls on one side urinals on the other, and as you turn the corner you have the row of sinks and exit. Well women hate when men leave the seats up. In a unisex restroom like Penn Station women will have no problem with seats being left up. Because there is urine all over the seats and floors because men just whip it out and goes wherever. Honestly even if your a man best you hold it till you get home. BUT even if the woman wipes off the seats if any part of your clothes touches the ground they will get urine stains on them.

Disgusting.

 

[Episaw]

But "physical sex" doesn't mean the same thing as "birth certificate". Many transgendered have had surgery, rendering the "physical sex" to be different from that on their birth certificate. That's in addition to the cases where a mistake was made on their birth certificate, and cases where the genitals were ambiguous or both were present at birth.

It's kinda like saying that I'm 5'6" because that's what it says on my driver's license, even though measuring me shows I'm 5'8".

Papias

P. S. I marked "other", meaning #1 or #3 are fine with me. I don't care where they pee. I don't care where anyone pees. I don't think anyone should be telling any of us where to pee.

That is right. We should be allowed to pee on the carpet at the office or into the trash can on the bus.

I am waiting for them to build rest rooms for my pet elephant.

 

[Winken]

That is right. We should be allowed to pee on the carpet at the office or into the trash can on the bus.

I am waiting for them to build rest rooms for my pet elephant.

Yes, indeed. If I can't hold it I'll whup it out on a public sidewalk, or in a streetcar or bus. Or in someone's back pocket.

 

[buzuxi02]

That was in Israel. They have those in Germany. God forbid it should become the norm in the USA, our territories or possessions.

That's exactly right. It's not that unisex restrooms are new or even foreign but culturally it's not our thing. They may still be appropriate in some settings while inappropriate in others . Personally, I'm a man and hate it when guys walk around but naked in my gym''s locker room. I'm like at least where a towel!.
But you can get desensitized even more than the Israeli practise. In India some rest stops have holes on the ground completely open air. You can be driving by watching the scenery and all of a sudden a row of men and women squatting with their pants down for the world to see. It's not progress it's regression.

 

[timewerx]

Just no shiny floors and open side stalls pls...

I'd even hate to get into these even if were all men. You can the other's bottom on the next stall through the reflection on the floor and obviously, they can see mine too :/

 

[Armoured]

I cannot believe or accept that this is being discussed in any forum anywhere with the word "Christian" in a header.

Why? Specifically? I was unaware the Bible mentions gender specific bathroom facilities?

 

[Archivist]

Yes, indeed. If I can't hold it I'll whup it out on a public sidewalk, or in a streetcar or bus. Or in someone's back pocket.

No one is talking about peeing on sidewalks. Stay on topic or I will ask the mods to close this thread.

 

[Archivist]

Just no shiny floors and open side stalls pls...

I'd even hate to get into these even if were all men. You can the other's bottom on the next stall through the reflection on the floor and obviously, they can see mine too :/

I don't recall ever seeing anyone's bottom through a reflection on the floor.

 

[Archivist]

That's exactly right. It's not that unisex restrooms are new or even foreign but culturally it's not our thing. They may still be appropriate in some settings while inappropriate in others . Personally, I'm a man and hate it when guys walk around but naked in my gym''s locker room. I'm like at least where a towel!.
But you can get desensitized even more than the Israeli practise. In India some rest stops have holes on the ground completely open air. You can be driving by watching the scenery and all of a sudden a row of men and women squatting with their pants down for the world to see. It's not progress it's regression.

How is squatting outside along the road in any way equal to a unisex restroom with separate stalls.

 

[Archivist]

I cannot believe or accept that this is being discussed in any forum anywhere with the word "Christian" in a header.

Where are public restrooms discussed in scripture?

 

[timewerx]

I don't recall ever seeing anyone's bottom through a reflection on the floor.

I've only gone to few places that did. One was an office somewhere in Atlanta.

Few others where in a hotel. In both cases, they used a dark colored glazed 12 x 12 (or bigger) tiles on the floor of the restroom and there was bright lighting overhead the toilet stalls.

Subsequently, I avoided using the toilets (in the Atlanta office) if someone is already in the middle stall which means I'll have to use the stall besides them.

 

[AlexDTX]

Unless it's a large facility smaller businesses wIl always be exempt. Modernbuilding codes require bathrooms to be large enough to accommodate a handicapped people where the wheelchair can maneuver and do a 360 degree turn without obstruction. The only thing such a law would do is make smaller businesses just build one single bathroom, one person at a time.

This will depend on where in the world one lives. Every business has a single bathroom and there are places that have men's, women's and a single bathroom often called, "family". Single bathrooms are not the issue, of course. It is the sharing of the bathroom at the same time with different genders that is the problem.

 

[Landon Caeli]

...From wedding cakes to bathrooms, I see a trend in which the little things in life matter. Interesting... Is that all we have left as a nation to worry about..? The little things in life? I guess that's good.

 

[lunastella]

For modesties sake people in the world the United States and Western Europe have "usually" had two (2) sets of bathrooms...

Fixed that for you. Single-sex bathrooms were a result of Victorianism and didn't really show up until around 1900.

 

[Papias]

Now if it was OPEN for more then one person of any sex. Blood of JESUS.. NO God in that at all.

What? Why in the world do you think that a single bathroom is somehow "NO God in that at all."?

Where did you find that, in Paul's letter to the E pee sians? the 3rd Peter?

Is there some scriptural basis for this, or is it just your gut feeling?

In Christ-

Papias

 

[Archivist]

Fixed that for you. Single-sex bathrooms were a result of Victorianism and didn't really show up until around 1900.

True. And in many places in the US there were once four public restrooms since blacks and whites had separate restrooms.

 

[Widlast]

Fixed that for you. Single-sex bathrooms were a result of Victorianism and didn't really show up until around 1900.

Didn't need fixing. Private bathrooms are a relatively modern invention. Most folks my parents knew grew up with outhouses.
In the past, most folks just went wherever was handy.

 

[SkyWriting]

This is a different take on a question that was asked in a thread that has been closed.

Should multi-user unisex public restrooms be available? This means a restroom that is large enough to be used by several people at once regardless of their sex. This is not referring to a single-user unisex restroom. It means that you could be using a stall and the person peeing in the next stall could be of the opposite sex.

Unfortunately the poll limits question length. Question 4, "No, separate male/female restrooms; transgenders should use the restroom of their physical sex," would mean the sex indicated on their birth certificate for transgendered individuals.

If you make specific claims, such as saying that multi-user unisex public restrooms will lead to an increase in assaults, you must offer evidence to support you claim. I don't want this thread to turn into a debate over unsubstantiated opinions.

Please remain polite. Respect what others might say. This is an issue upon which people can and do disagree. No personal attacks.

There have been women using mens rooms for as long as I can remember.
And men bringing in any sex children. Likely women bringing in kids as well.

 

[buzuxi02]

Didn't need fixing. Private bathrooms are a relatively modern invention. Most folks my parents knew grew up with outhouses.
In the past, most folks just went wherever was handy.

While we're at it let's take it back 2500 years.. When I was in Thesaloniki viewing the remains of an ancient ampitheatre I noticed a stone bench with 4 holes about 1 foot apart. It was the ancient restroom where everyone sat side by side. I wondered what kind of toilet paper they used and where it was hung. But then I was informed you would wipe your butt using the same wet sponge hung on a pole. Now if anyone wants to bring that back to save a few trees I'm really going to be up in arms.

 

[Archivist]

While we're at it let's take it back 2500 years.. When I was in Thesaloniki viewing the remains of an ancient ampitheatre I noticed a stone bench with 4 holes about 1 foot apart. It was the ancient restroom where everyone sat side by side. I wondered what kind of toilet paper they used and where it was hung. But then I was informed you would wipe your butt using the same wet sponge hung on a pole. Now if anyone wants to bring that back to save a few trees I'm really going to be up in arms.

That isn't what we are discussing in this thread. We aren't talking about making restrooms less sanitary. We are talking about modern multi-user unisex restrooms. Stay on topic.