Why exactly is profanity sinful?

[tansy]

I’m not sure why it’s wrong from a biblical perspective, but I’m sure it is wrong and there is a reasonable explanation. Some folks with knowledge, come alone and engage in this, please.

I think the proper way for a Gentleman to insult is via irony, or better - sarcasm. Sarcasm is so penetrating if used properly. I use it only in rare cases, against very aggressive fools. They often don’t realize the insult, which makes it even funnier for me, and more humiliating for them, as other people read and understand it.

I think that sarcasm is abysmal. I hate sarcasm - irony is fine. Sarcasm puts people down and is very hurtful...I know, because I've been on the receiving end of sarcasm many times. Irony is different and is often quite subtle...sarcasm is very blunt and not usually very clever imo. Irony(so long as people get the point) can be constructive rather than destructive. Can even make one laugh even when directed at oneself.

 

[Sammy-San]

Here "vulgar" is in the eye of the beholder. Indeed, the word at its basis only means used by the general population.

The Bible translation known as the "Latin Vulgate" used Vulgar Latin - that which was in common street talk in the 3rd and 4th centuries. The King James translation was rejected for years by the proper Church of England clergy as being too "vulgar." (common street talk)

It is only in the 19th-20th centuries that "vulgar" became equated with obscene.

By making that statement, the author could even render clinical descriptions as vulgar.

On a forum I used to be on, one woman (baptist pastor's wife) about my age said the worst beating she got as a young child was when she asked her mom "What is a virgin?" Mom told dad. Dad beat her with a belt. After the beating he asked where she heard such a vulgar, dirty word. She answered: "Round yon virgin, mother and child..."

Do you agree with the post I made that cursing is wrong because it takes away the sacredness of the human body?

 

[possibletarian]

I think this is like the ''The love of money is the root of all evil'' in that money itself is simply paper and metal, but the lenghs we go to to acquire it CAN be evil.

Likewise with words, it's often not the words themselves but the malicious intent behind them that cause the pain and offence. .

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[Dave-W]

Do you agree with the post I made that cursing is wrong because it takes away the sacredness of the human body?

If that is the intent, then yes. But there is more to cursing than denigrating the body.

 

[Dave-W]

I think this is like the ''The love of money is the root of all evil''

Which is actually a mis-quote.

1 Timothy 6:10a For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil

What part does the "love of money" have to do with sexual lust? With murderous anger? with racial prejudice?

 

[Sammy-San]

If that is the intent, then yes. But there is more to cursing than denigrating the body.

Are you referring to insulting people?

 

[Dave-W]

Are you referring to insulting people?

That would be another part. You can also insult/curse an idea, political ideology, religion, race, nationality, culture, etc.

 

[possibletarian]

Which is actually a mis-quote.

1 Timothy 6:10a For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil

What part does the "love of money" have to do with sexual lust? With murderous anger? with racial prejudice?

Well that was not the initial point, the point being that money is simply paper and metal, it's the love of money, the desire to accrue money and it's benefits over morality that's the problem.

I would though say the love of money does lead to murderous anger and prejudice, (of those that have) after all its is the root of all sorts of evil

I was though replying to the O.P. about profanity in that words are just letters and sounds and the same word can mean different things in different languages, even context can alter a words meaning. It's the intent behind the word that's the problem, not the word itself.

But then I thought that was clear in my first post.

 

[Dave-W]

words are just letters and sounds and the same word can mean different things in different languages,

Very true. I heard a story back in the 1970s about a Vietnamese grade school age kid that had come out of Saigon in the evacuation (1975) with a name pronounced like a bad word for sex. (the "F" word) I have heard it was not an uncommon given name.

Upon registering for school, he insisted they call him by his given name. The teacher refused. So she called the principle who heard the story and said "Your name now is "George."

 

[Sammy-San]

Very true. I heard a story back in the 1970s about a Vietnamese grade school age kid that had come out of Saigon in the evacuation (1975) with a name pronounced like a bad word for sex. (the "F" word) I have heard it was not an uncommon given name.

Upon registering for school, he insisted they call him by his given name. The teacher refused. So she called the principle who heard the story and said "Your name now is "George."

Do you think that word is inherently bad or its cultural? It has a very guttural sound.

 

[Dave-W]

Purely cultural.

Are you familiar with the German ch sound? it sounds like you are clearing the back of your throat. It is very guttural. Hebrew uses the same sound at the end of the word "blessed:" Baruch. The same sound starts off the word for "holy:" Chodesh.

 

[Sammy-San]

Purely cultural.

Are you familiar with the German ch sound? it sounds like you are clearing the back of your throat. It is very guttural. Hebrew uses the same sound at the end of the word "blessed:" Baruch. The same sound starts off the word for "holy:" Chodesh.

I believe bibically that profanity is wrong (of a sexual nature) because it doesn't treat the human body respectfully. is that what you think too?

 

[Sammy-San]

Purely cultural.

Are you familiar with the German ch sound? it sounds like you are clearing the back of your throat. It is very guttural. Hebrew uses the same sound at the end of the word "blessed:" Baruch. The same sound starts off the word for "holy:" Chodesh.

Those words aren't of a sexual nature though.

 

[Dave-W]

Those words aren't of a sexual nature though.

So?

 

[Dave-W]

I believe bibically that profanity is wrong (of a sexual nature) because it doesn't treat the human body respectfully. is that what you think too?

I do not make sexuality a special case.

 

[Sammy-San]

I do not make sexuality a special case.

Is Cursing a Sin? What the Bible Says About Profanity

Making guttural references to human sexuality, anatomical parts and biological functions

 

[Dave-W]

Is Cursing a Sin? What the Bible Says About Profanity

That article is way off. There is no biblical support for the author's "guttural references" statement. And his take on "Name in vain..." shows only that he is reiterating classical protestant doctrine that completely ignores the historical context.

 

[Sammy-San]

That article is way off. There is no biblical support for the author's "guttural references" statement. And his take on "Name in vain..." shows only that he is reiterating classical protestant doctrine that completely ignores the historical context.

What about personal conscience?

 

[Dave-W]

What about personal conscience?

That is entirely personal. Even if doing something is COMMANDED in scripture, if your conscience condemns you, to you it is a sin.

 

[Sammy-San]

That is entirely personal. Even if doing something is COMMANDED in scripture, if your conscience condemns you, to you it is a sin.

What is your issue with bringing up guttural terms?