A flat earth, and Noah's Ark.

[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[Goatee]

He went to and fro - then says walked -up and down.
I just find it odd, as to how did he do the to and fro part? Does it just mean -to and fro/as in east and west...then up and down-as to north and south?
just curious?

As in maybe 'walking around' as normally done!

 

[Bible Highlighter]

First, you can fly around a flat earth model. You can sail around it too.

Second, there is this phenomenon that is contradictory to a ball shaped earth. If you stood on a large sphere and then could be lifted off of it by helicopter, as you were lifted you would see farther out. Your horizon would become further away. Now, on this ball, as the horizon got further away, it would be further below you as it would have to drop away, being spherical.
Same should happen with the earth. As you go up you can see farther, the farther you see the further away the objects are that you see, the further away they are the further around the curve they would be and thus, they would be further below you.

If you go up in a plane, however, the horizon is always at eye level.... no matter how high up you go, there it is. This is an anomaly that confuses me.

Really?
Are you being serious?

If you are, then please, just stop.
There is no sense in arguing back and forth endlessly about something that is so obvious.

You cannot fly around a flat Earth without seeing it's underbelly of rock.
If you believe the Earth is a flat disk with you being able to travel to both sides of the flat disk, then why have we discovered other planets in our solar system that are round?
What about the astronauts who seen the Earth from the moon? Did they see the Earth as flat? No.

In other words... Stop. Just stop. Please.


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[JackRT]

He went to and fro - then says walked -up and down.
I just find it odd, as to how did he do the to and fro part? Does it just mean -to and fro/as in east and west...then up and down-as to north and south?
just curious?

"to and fro" is short for "to and from" which simply means "to wander around". "up and down" means exactly the same.

 

[HighlyFavoured!]

When it's beyond human resoning then it's from God. Sometimes we are safer if we just believe the Word of God as it is laid down to us than trying to scrutinise it. The end will be confusion, confusion and more confusion.
God bless

 

[Goatee]

When it's beyond human resoning then it's from God. Sometimes we are safer if we just believe the Word of God as it is laid down to us than trying to scrutinise it. The end will be confusion, confusion and more confusion.
God bless

No, the end will be enlightenment!

 

[Savethewhiterhino]

Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Rich verse. That One Blood from which the Nations are, is that a reference to Adam or Noah?

To me it's clear that reference to the Earth is spherical, but that translating old Hebrew to English may have its challenges slanting the appearance.

Global Flood is also pretty clear from scripture and observation of natural phenomena (I worked in mining, although not as a geologist). It's just that the inflationary ages belief has been hammered into people's heads for more than two centuries now.

 

[JacksBratt]

Really?
Are you being serious?

If you are, then please, just stop.
There is no sense in arguing back and forth endlessly about something that is so obvious.

You cannot fly around a flat Earth without seeing it's underbelly of rock.
If you believe the Earth is a flat disk with you being able to travel to both sides of the flat disk, then why have we discovered other planets in our solar system that are round?
What about the astronauts who seen the Earth from the moon? Did they see the Earth as flat? No.

In other words... Stop. Just stop. Please.


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You really need to look at the map of the Flat earth. The one they propose as being the real earth.
You would never fly "under" it. You fly around the top of it..

So, you stop. Stop and do a little bit of your own reading and research before you call some idea false.

You should never state that someones idea is false due to it disagreeing with your knowledge. You should always investigate what they say and then show the errors.

Like this guy did.. two views with the same facts but understanding the errors:

Edward Hendrie's Defense of Flat Earth

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You really need to look at the map of the Flat earth. The one they propose as being the real earth.
You would never fly "under" it. You fly around the top of it..

So, you stop. Stop and do a little bit of your own reading and research before you call some idea false.

You should never state that someones idea is false due to it disagreeing with your knowledge. You should always investigate what they say and then show the errors.

Like this guy did.. two views with the same facts but understanding the errors:

Edward Hendrie's Defense of Flat Earth

Sorry, I do not believe in conspiracy theories on some kind of cover up on how the Earth is flat.

Please have a nice day.
And may God bless you.
And may He show you the truth on this matter someday.


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[JacksBratt]

Sorry, I do not believe in conspiracy theories on some kind of cover up on how the Earth is flat.

Please have a nice day.
And may God bless you.
And may He show you the truth on this matter someday.


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I'm sure, someday, we will know all the truth of the universe. Until then, I will investigate the observations I make and put the statements of others to the test.

 

[GodB4S]

I believe the earth was created first...4 days later the sun, moon and stars...the scientist say the stars are suns and our sun is a star...falsehood! It amazes me that the sun knows to become a sun every morning after being a star! When scientist look into their telescopes into the stars they are looking with 200/20 vision...that is like going into your bedroom at night with the lights off...you may see the led lights on your alarm or an outline of the bed but you can not see the color of the wall or carpet...the scientist makes assumptions about stars that they will never get to to affirm their assumptions. When they sent a spaceship to Saturn to go through the rings, they were talking about 2" to 8' rocks making up the rings and assumed a moon broke up to make the rings...two weeks before the spaceship went through the rings they were talking this way. When they got the data and pictures back about when the spaceship went through they were amazed that the rings was solid and had grooves in like a phonograph record...Their assumption was wrong until they got there to see the truth. I have been fed falsehoods from the scientific world all my life. I was created not come from a monkey. I thought about the earth being here first, before the sun, moon and stars....no big bang! The earth is at an angle yet the north star tells us a true north and the southern cross gives a true south...if we are 93,000,000 miles from the sun and went to the other side 93,000,000 miles from the sun, how could the north star and southern cross stay true? I believe the earth is stationary and the sun rotates around the earth...the scientist say we rotate around the sun because the other planets do that but they were all created after the earth and for the earth, thus the true north and true south remain true. I also believe the stars are like our moon to give light at night...reflects the suns light...a third of the stars will fall to the earth one day and that tells me it is like sand not as large as our sun...scientist will never know till it is too late that they will not ever get to a star and they are wrong.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[JackRT]

I believe the earth was created first...4 days later the sun, moon and stars...the scientist say the stars are suns and our sun is a star...falsehood! It amazes me that the sun knows to become a sun every morning after being a star! When scientist look into their telescopes into the stars they are looking with 200/20 vision...that is like going into your bedroom at night with the lights off...you may see the led lights on your alarm or an outline of the bed but you can not see the color of the wall or carpet...the scientist makes assumptions about stars that they will never get to to affirm their assumptions. When they sent a spaceship to Saturn to go through the rings, they were talking about 2" to 8' rocks making up the rings and assumed a moon broke up to make the rings...two weeks before the spaceship went through the rings they were talking this way. When they got the data and pictures back about when the spaceship went through they were amazed that the rings was solid and had grooves in like a phonograph record...Their assumption was wrong until they got there to see the truth. I have been fed falsehoods from the scientific world all my life. I was created not come from a monkey. I thought about the earth being here first, before the sun, moon and stars....no big bang! The earth is at an angle yet the north star tells us a true north and the southern cross gives a true south...if we are 93,000,000 miles from the sun and went to the other side 93,000,000 miles from the sun, how could the north star and southern cross stay true? I believe the earth is stationary and the sun rotates around the earth...the scientist say we rotate around the sun because the other planets do that but they were all created after the earth and for the earth, thus the true north and true south remain true. I also believe the stars are like our moon to give light at night...reflects the suns light...a third of the stars will fall to the earth one day and that tells me it is like sand not as large as our sun...scientist will never know till it is too late that they will not ever get to a star and they are wrong.

This post contains so many factual and interpretive errors that I don't even know where to start to correct it all and I just don't have the time to do so. That part about the rings of Saturn just made me laugh out loud. was this taken from a parody site?

 

[Dr Bruce Atkinson]

You can circumnavigate the flat earth model....In fact:

In 1773 Captain Cook became the first modern explorer known to have breached the Antarctic Circle and reached the ice barrier. During three voyages, lasting three years and eight days, Captain Cook and crew sailed a total of 60,000 miles along the Antarctic coastline never once finding an inlet or path through or beyond the massive glacial wall! Captain Cook wrote: “The ice extended east and west far beyond the reach of our sight, while the southern half of the horizon was illuminated by rays of light which were reflected from the ice to a considerable height. It was indeed my opinion that this ice extends quite to the pole, or perhaps joins some land to which it has been fixed since creation.”

Note how far he sailed..... 60,000 miles. How many times could you sail around the "perceived" continent of Antarctica and still not sail 60,000 miles?

Try this for an answer:

“Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough,’ is often said by those who don't know, The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region - indirectly, to be sure - but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles - a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (78)

The proof is inconvertible that all planets are globes. ALL planets, including the moon. Get over it.

 

[Dr Bruce Atkinson]

I agree, satellites are something I hang on to as a globe earth believer. However, if you want to prove a globe using air traffic, be careful. This topic is more of a feather in the cap for pro flat earthers. Many flights are long connecting flights with no apparent reason, on the globe, however, on the flat earth model,...they are the shortest straightest flight path. So, be careful.

So how many of the airline flight planners are flat earth believers. Can't find any.

 

[JackRT]

Over the past four hundred years the laws of physics have been verified time and time again in astronomical observations and in the laboratory. I have personally verified Newton's law of gravity in the lab. These laws successfully predict the orbits of the planets and their moons and can successfully predict eclipses and occlusions centuries into the future and the past as well. The laws of nature point directly to the modern cosmological model and these laws have allowed us to navigate into orbit , to the moon, to the planets and beyond. At this point I am totally frustrated with the flat earthers. It is almost as if they are being deliberately provoking just for fun. I do not consider being deliberately ignorant to be in any way fun.

 

[Dr Bruce Atkinson]

Over the past four hundred years the laws of physics have been verified time and time again in astronomical observations and in the laboratory. I have personally verified Newton's law of gravity in the lab. These laws successfully predict the orbits of the planets and their moons and can successfully predict eclipses and occlusions centuries into the future and the past as well. The laws of nature point directly to the modern cosmological model and these laws have allowed us to navigate into orbit , to the moon, to the planets and beyond. At this point I am totally frustrated with the flat earthers. It is almost as if they are being deliberately provoking just for fun. I do not consider being deliberately ignorant to be in any way fun.

I totally agree.