Just for once let us all try to be honest.

[dysert]

I can tell. Then you should try to answer the questions that you don't seem to be able to. Once you do that you may realize that the Bible is rife with errors.

No offense, but I think it would be both pointless and frustrating to try to have a Bible study with you. Nothing against you personally, but, well, see my sig.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then perhaps you could tell me why I shouldn't be perplexed at why someone would join the SBA?

Especially someone of the caliber of a Turncoat Falwell?

Perhaps the SBA did not get started over the slavery issue?

Dunno.

But if it did, then I'm at a loss to explain why it's still going sans slaves.

Unless, of course, it's the love of money.

But even that doesn't make sense, as the Civil War should have bankrupted them.

You don't seem to be listening too well.

And how could Lincoln have bankrupted your church? That seems to be a rather frivolous claim to say the least.
It is rather clear how the SBA got started There is no hiding of their support of slavery in the past. If you can be serious and pay attention to the title of this thread I may try to help you.

 

[AV1611VET]

When properly studied, and when textual criticism is properly applied, I don't know of any contradictory bits in what we deduce was in the originals.

Indeed.

Scientists see contradictions.

Theologians see paradoxes.

 

[SteveB28]

When properly studied, and when textual criticism is properly applied, I don't know of any contradictory bits in what we deduce was in the originals.

"Properly"?

Who makes that determination?



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[TLK Valentine]

We all know it is [even creationists know] but just how badly in your opinion is creationism damaging the USA?
short and long term.

The first thing that springs to mind is education.

It's troublesome by itself, but the worse part is that it is a symptom of the anti-intellectualism rampant in American society... Don't think, feel; use your gut, not your head; you know better than the experts...

 

[Chriliman]

We all know it is [even creationists know] but just how badly in your opinion is creationism damaging the USA?
short and long term.

The first thing that springs to mind is education.

Lets say biological life is like a jack in the box(irreducibly complex). Evolution is not responsible for the function of the jack in the box, but it could be thought of as the process of the jack in the box popping open and changing from one form to another.

The real question here is who or what is responsible for the function of the jack in the box, regardless of whether or not Darwinian evolution is true or not?

A valid assumption is that God is responsible for the function of the jack in the box, thus creation then evolution. One must first make something that can then begin evolving.

So really creation and evolution can go together, naturally.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Lets say biological life is like a jack in the box(irreducibly complex). Evolution is not responsible for the function of the jack in the box, but it could be thought of as the process of the jack in the box popping open and changing from one form to another.

The real question here is who or what is responsible for the function of the jack in the box, regardless of whether or not Darwinian evolution is true or not?

A valid assumption is that God is responsible for the function of the jack in the box, thus creation then evolution. One must first make something that can then begin evolving.

So really creation and evolution can go together, naturally.

They can -- but if you're tossing a god into the mix, you don't get to call it "naturally"; it's supernaturally now.

The god of your choice gets the ball rolling with a miracle or two, then sits back and lets things snowball from there.

 

[Chriliman]

They can -- but if you're tossing a god into the mix, you don't get to call it "naturally"; it's supernaturally now.

'Supernatural' is just a label we put on observations that we don't understand and/or can't explain.

The things observed in quantum physics can be labeled as 'supernatural' because they defy the laws of natural physics. Take quantum entanglement for example.

I believe God is the fundamental force that drives nature and existence to an intentional order and peace from an unintentional chaos and confusion.

 

[TLK Valentine]

'Supernatural' is just a label we put on observations that we don't understand and/or can't explain.

The things observed in quantum physics can be labeled as 'supernatural' because they defy the laws of natural physics. Take quantum entanglement for example.

I believe God is the fundamental force that drives nature and existence to an intentional order and peace from an unintentional chaos and confusion.

If that is so, then, like any "natural" force, "God" can be observed, studied, measured... and eventually, replicated.

 

[Chriliman]

If that is so, then, like any "natural" force, "God" can be observed, studied, measured... and eventually, replicated.

Sure, but if by 'replicated' you mean we'll somehow be able to reproduce God, then that would only be possible if God made it possible in the first place.

Interestingly, in a way humans have already played a role in reproducing God, his name is Jesus the Son of God, begotten of God by the womb of a woman.

Anyhow, this is getting off topic

Have a Merry Christmas!

 

[TLK Valentine]

Sure, but if by 'replicated' you mean we'll somehow be able to reproduce God, then that would only be possible if God made it possible in the first place.

How come?

Interestingly, in a way humans have already played a role in reproducing God, his name is Jesus the Son of God, begotten of God by the womb of a woman.

A woman who, it should be noted, had no say in the matter.

 

[Chriliman]

A woman who, it should be noted, had no say in the matter.

Sure she did.

Luke 1:38
"I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May your word to me be fulfilled."

Her obedience to God helped fulfill God's plan for redeeming man from the clutches of sin and death.

Again, off topic.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Sure she did.

Luke 1:38
"I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May your word to me be fulfilled."

Her obedience to God helped fulfill God's plan for redeeming man from the clutches of sin and death.

Again, off topic.

Sure, after the fact.... but agreed, off topic.

 

[super animator]

I swear that AV is a necromancer.(Cause he keeps reviving dead threads.)

 

[mmksparbud]

Sure, after the fact.... but agreed, off topic.

No--that was before the fact! She agreed before it happened.

 

[Mobezom]

What was Jesus's DNA?

 

[mmksparbud]

What was Jesus's DNA?

One can only know that He had the DNA of His mother, her father and her ancestors all the way back to Adam and Eve. There is absolutely no way to know what His divinity consisted of---He is a part of His heavenly Father, what that means, no one knows or can know.
What are you trying to get at?

 

[AV1611VET]

What are you trying to get at?

Look out!

Here comes the "Where did Jesus get His Y-chromosome?" question!

 

[mmksparbud]

Look out!

Here comes the "Where did Jesus get His Y-chromosome?" question!

LOL!! God created the very first Y chromosome to begin with!!!

 

[Subduction Zone]

One can only know that He had the DNA of His mother, her father and her ancestors all the way back to Adam and Eve. There is absolutely no way to know what His divinity consisted of---He is a part of His heavenly Father, what that means, no one knows or can know.
What are you trying to get at?

You do realize that the Adam and Eve story is a morality story at best, don't you?