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So what you are saying is that Yahweh has taken His day of physical rest away from mankind. Now we can be put in bondage by working seven days a week? How does resting in Yeshua provide rest for my aching body after six days of labor?
Nope, disagree here. Deceivers trying to enforce man-made tradition refers to man trying to reinforce old traditions of any kind.
Not law. If the Spirit leads we won't worship anything but God. Do you need a law for that? Quoting the New Testament doesn't hold weight with me with regard to laws because all New Testament "laws" are directives, helpful pointers on what love looks like. They were never intended to be written out as a set of new laws. Abraham needed no law, he was righteous by faith.
Wow, you certainly are steeped in lawlessness. Abraham's faith produced obedience to all of Yahweh's laws (Genesis 26:5).
And you are steeped in law! Abraham listened to Gods voice. Please tell what statutes and laws Abraham kept that were beyond His Voice.
None. Yahweh's laws ARE His voice. He voiced His will in the form of laws. Laws His Son Yeshua kept perfectly. Laws that have now been firmly established through faith under the New Covenant (Romans 3:31). Laws that will go forth from Zion during the Millennium (Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2).
Yahwehs laws ARE His voice.
Copy and paste much?
Bob we've been through this already. You tried to prove the Sabbath is a moral law because of where it is placed and because God commanded it. These arguments fail. Copying and pasting the same old stuff is tedious to read. One verse at a time, one point at a time if we are to continue. Long posts with multiple verses are too difficult to properly address.The New Covenant is in Jeremiah 31:31-33 and is given specifically "to the House of Israel and the house of Judah".
Bible details matter.
Until you read the Bible.
In the NT - sin is still "defined" this way "SIN IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4 NKJV
notice how explicitly NT authors not only affirm the Commandments of God - but quote from them to help those who might wonder if the TEN Commandments should be included?
================= notice the "Bible details"
In Matt 22 Jesus affirms OT - LAW and scripture
"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5
"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18
Matt 22 "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.
Matt 22
34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ (Deut 6:5) 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ (Lev 19:18) 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
The firm foundation for the LAW and the prophets - LOVE.
TEN COMMANDMENTS AFFIRMED in NT
Matt 19
And someone came to Him and said;Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life 17 And He said to him, Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments; 18 Then he *said to Him, Which ones? And Jesus said,
You shall not commit murder;
You shall not commit adultery;
You shall not steal;
You shall not bear false witness;
19 Honor your father and mother;
and
You shall love your neighbor as yourself
"what matters is Keeping the Commandments of God" 1Cor 7:19
"Love Me and KEEP My Commandments" Ex 20:6
"If you LOVE Me KEEP My Commandments" John 14:15
Matt 5
17 Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
"do we then make void the Law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the LAW" Rom 3:31
What law? The Law that condemns all mankind as sinners -
Rom 3
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
That same law - same chapter
"do we then make void the Law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the LAW" Rom 3:31
Any part of scripture read could fall under that title.
Acts 13:15 And after the reading of the Law and the Prophets, the rulers of the synagogue sent to them, saying, Men and brethren, if you have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.
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Rom 7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
12 So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
13 Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.
14 For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. 16 But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good.
Rom 13 NKJV
8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.
9 For the commandments,
“You shall not commit adultery,”
“You shall not murder,”
“You shall not steal,”
“You shall not bear false witness,”
“You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Rom 13 HCSB - Holman Bible
8 Do not owe anyone anything, except to love one another, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.
9 The commandments:
Do not commit adultery;
do not murder;
do not steal;
do not covet;
and whatever other commandment—all are summed up by this: Love your neighbor as yourself.
10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor. Love, therefore, is the fulfillment of the law.
Romans 2
14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law.
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
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25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. 26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision? 27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law? 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
Rom 3
19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
"Sin IS transgression of the Law" 1 John 3:4
"ALL have sinned" Romans 3:23
Both Jews AND Gentiles are explicitly included in Romans 2 --
4 Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who will render to each person according to his deeds: 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.
Eph 6: 2 Honor your father and mother (which is the first commandment with a promise), -- the 5th commandment in that still-valid "unit of ten" is the "FIRST commandment with a promise.
James 2
8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, ou shall love your neighbor as yourself, (Lev 19:18) you are doing well.
9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.
11 For He who said, [/FONT]
Do not commit adultery
also said,
Do not commit murder.
Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.
12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty
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"the Sabbath was MADE for MANKIND" Mark 2:27
"from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship" Is 66:23
Ignore Bible details much?
Hint -
Rom 3
19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
God says 'SIN is transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4.
God says in Genesis 4 "SIN is crouching at your door - but you must master it" - more than 2000 years before Sinai.
Genesis 26:5 Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.
Romans 1 - Paul says gentiles -- even pagans -- without the written Law are still held accountable and condemned under judgment.
More Bible please... less dismissing the Bible.
Yahweh spoke His laws to men. Men like Abraham and Moses kept His specific laws revealed by His voice. Their faith produced works of obedience. Yeshua kept His specific laws. Do you? No. You abolish His laws. You seem to imply you keep them via obeying His voice, but yet you trample on the Sabbath (and no telling how many others). His voice does NOT tell us the Sabbath is just like any other day, but is holy, blessed and sanctified. You treat it as common. Therefore, you are NOT hearing His voice concerning the Sabbath. You are NOT hearing Yeshua's voice concerning "Law" either since you reject "the Law of Christ" and view it as "the helpful pointers of Christ".
