The evidence for Evolution.

[AV1611VET]

What do we need to find in order to disprove TOE?

Disproving TOE is an act reserved for Jesus Christ when He comes back.

I believe one way He will do it is take a select group of scientists back to the Creation Week and let them observe firsthand what happened.

I can't prove it, of course, but it sounds plausible to me.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Also I've said it before and think it's a viable position, I'm not going to get a degree in this stuff just to argue something I think is bee ess to begin with.

That's the opposite of a viable position.
That's acknowledging that you don't know what you are talking about, aren't planning on informing yourself on it, and going against scientific consensus anyway.

Or you can take a dim witted approach that if I can't argue it, you must be right, but you seem to have a little more sense than that. I could, I'm just not going to spend the time preparing and it would be unfair of me to try...waste of my time and yours to go any further with my limited knowledge on this particular area.

The concept of evolution is not hard to grasp. Search for "how evolution works" in youtube and you'll get dozens of 4 to 10 minute videos explaining it in terms as layman as it gets. Including with cartoons for 10-year olds.

 

[Kenny'sID]

That's the opposite of a viable position.
That's acknowledging that you don't know what you are talking about, aren't planning on informing yourself on it, and going against scientific consensus anyway.

I expect nothing less of you.

BTW, if someone told me Micky Mouse created the Universe and gave me all these theories as to why that is a fact, I would not educate myself on the reason for their findings either in order to show them where they ere. At the very least I would spend minimal time on it.

Fact is, you are just wrong there, but if desperate use of situations just like this is what you need to help you out here, go for it...you need all the help you can conjure.

 

[Speedwell]

I expect nothing less of you.

BTW, if someone told me Micky Mouse created the Universe and gave me all these theories as to why that is a fact, I would not educate myself on the reason for their findings either in order to show them where they ere. At the very least I would spend minimal time on it.

Fact is, you are just wrong there, but if desperate use of situations just like this is what you need to help you out here, go for it...you need all the help you can conjure.

So why are are you here if you don't care what believe and aren't interesting in finding out why?

 

[Kenny'sID]

So why are are you here if you don't care what believe and aren't interesting in finding out why?

You aren't paying close enough attention to what I said. Read the following, consider it, then get back to me if you still don't understand.

At the very least I would spend minimal time on it.

And just because I don't pick up every single piece of trash in the park, doesn't mean I "don't care" if the park is clean or not. But I think you already get that, however if you want to show us all how your good since takes a dive due to your bias, that's ok, I guess.

Also, did you happen to notice I listen to almost everything else y'all bring forth? So one thing equating to not caring is simply a fabrication.

Try to stay real, it makes you look better in spite of what you are arguing.

 

[Speedwell]

You aren't paying close enough attention to what I said. Read the following, consider it, then get back to me if you still don't understand.



And just because I don't pick up every single piece of trash in the park, doesn't mean I "don't care" if the park is clean or not. But I think you already get that, however if you want to show us all how your good since takes a dive due to your bias, that's ok, I guess.

Also, did you happen to notice I listen to almost everything else y'all bring forth? So one thing equating to not caring is simply a fabrication.

Try to stay real, it makes you look better in spite of what you are arguing.

I would be interested (seriously) in your opinion of what my bias is. We all have them, but at least we should be aware of them.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I would be interested (seriously) in your opinion of what my bias is. We all have them, but at least we should be aware of them.

You're biased in favour of avoiding bias.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I would be interested (seriously) in your opinion of what my bias is. We all have them, but at least we should be aware of them.

Are you really asking me that? Bias against my opinion in all this and for your own.

And yes, we all have them but we don't all get goofy and let them control us.

Or did you just bring that up to avoid the rest of my post?

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Are you really asking me that? Bias against my opinion in all this and for your own.

And yes, we all have them but we don't all get goofy and let them control us.

Or did you just bring that up to avoid the rest of my post?

While he gets to the rest of your post, Why wouldn't we be biased against your unfounded opinion based on all the evidence that indicates your opinion to be just plain wrong? If you have evidence for your position, or at the least, cared enough to address the preponderance of evidence you've been provided yet likely don't (or won't?) care to understand... we'd be a whole lot less likely to call you out on it.

 

[Speedwell]

Are you really asking me that? Bias against my opinion in all this and for your own.

And yes, we all have them but we don't all get goofy and let them control us.

Or did you just bring that up to avoid the rest of my post?

Quite right. I accept the theory of evolution as a plausible and reasonably well evidenced explanation of the diversity of life as we observe it. Why should I not? I do not share your religious reasons for rejecting as I don't believe that the book of Genesis is or was intended to be accurate literal history in the sense that you mean it, nor that such a belief is necessary to the Christian faith. If you want to call that "bias" then you are welcome to do so.

 

[Speedwell]

While he gets to the rest of your post,

I'm not sure what the rest of his post had to do with anything.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Quite right. I accept the theory of evolution as a plausible and reasonably well evidenced explanation of the diversity of life as we observe it. Why should I not? I do not share your religious reasons for rejecting as I don't believe that the book of Genesis is or was intended to be accurate literal history in the sense that you mean it, nor that such a belief is necessary to the Christian faith. If you want to call that "bias" then you are welcome to do so.

OK, if you want to dwell on that part of the post you got it from I suppose that settles that. We agree bias is a fact, for what good that does us.

 

[Kenny'sID]

While he gets to the rest of your post, Why wouldn't we be biased against your unfounded opinion based on all the evidence that indicates your opinion to be just plain wrong?

No more unfounded that your nonsense.

And why or why not there is bias is not something I'm arguing. You have your reasons I have mine. I replied to his comments on that but I still think it takes us in a direction that skirts the subject.

 

[Mobezom]

"No, you're unfounded!" Real mature, Kenny.

 

[Kenny'sID]

"No, you're unfounded!" Real mature, Kenny.

So telling you your nonsense is unfounded is reduced to that in your mind and seen as nothing but immature... that's all? That's your defense?

You DO NOT want to bring up immature, lol. Not following a comment such as that.

I'm really trying to not overuse the term desperation here but you all aren't making it easy.

 

[Mobezom]

No, it's that you're telling me that my statements are unfounded without any backing statements.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Ask them if Jesus is a great ape.

The answer wouldn't matter any more than it matters to report that Jesus was a mammal.

 

[Kenny'sID]

No, it's that you're telling me that my statements are unfounded without any backing statements.

I lost track, and you posted as such I can't follow a link back to see where we are.

Tell you what, you post backing for whatever it was I said was unfounded, I'll take a look at it, and test myself to see if I actually can give those backing statements.

Don't pass up the opportunity, I might not be able too.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Science is myopic.Or the muses that set the pace for modern science.

Hmmph. Science is a field of study. It is the STUDENT who chooses to be myopic or not, not the FIELD OF STUDY.

And you are not helping that student, when you insist she must throw away some of her knowledge in order to come to God. That is clearly wrong.

 

[Mobezom]

I lost track, and you posted as such I can't follow a link back to see where we are.

Tell you what, you post backing for whatever it was I said was unfounded, I'll take a look at it, and test myself to see if I actually can give those backing statements.

Don't pass up the opportunity, I might not be able too.

*oh*

nevermind

Bugeyed said that you were unfounded, you said that bugeyed was unfounded, I only saw you doing wrong because people who agree with me can do no wrong.

oops