What about Trump's crudeness about women?

[SteveB28]

What evidence? Some anti Christian writers made an unsubstantiated claim to support their beliefs? That's a surprise!

It's distressing to be shown to be wrong isn't it....?

Allow me to remind you of YOUR words......"Feel free to cite an example......"

Which is precisely what I did......so save your blather for someone who is impressed by it.



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[SteveB28]

The Church is the Catholic Church.

Liberal secular denominations are part of the problem and their views are irrelevant to the views of historical Christianity.

You asked for an example of the church supporting homosexuality........I did!

Now, I'd be very careful if I were you. You seem very close to claiming that anyone who isn't a Catholic can't be regarded as a Christian. This forum has rules about that........

Just face the fact that you were glaringly wrong and move on.



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[Thursday]

It's distressing to be shown to be wrong isn't it....?

Allow me to remind you of YOUR words......"Feel free to cite an example......"

Which is precisely what I did......so save your blather for someone who is impressed by it.

That's not an example. You have to go to the roots of Christianity. Modern revisionists don't speak for Christianity.

 

[Thursday]

You asked for an example of the church supporting homosexuality........I did!




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What is the Church? You failed.

 

[SteveB28]

What is the Church? You failed.

Nowhere in this long interchange is a specific 'church' mentioned.....until it suited your needs to single out the Catholic Church....!

In fact, given that this discussion started with an examination of Mrs Clinton's views, you should be reminded that any comparison with Catholic values is irrelevant, as she attends a Protestant church and would therefore be more appropriately measured against their values.

Again, you skirt very closely to the contention that only Catholics can be regarded as 'True Christians'. Is this your view.....?



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[SteveB28]

That's not an example. You have to go to the roots of Christianity. Modern revisionists don't speak for Christianity.

"Feel free to cite an example of where the church ever..........."

Your request doesn't speak to any particular period of history. 'Ever' means that I can show, from any period, when church teaching has varied.....

You really aren't very good at this.......


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[Thursday]

"Feel free to cite an example of where the church ever..........."

Your request doesn't speak to any particular period of history. 'Ever' means that I can show, from any period, when church teaching has varied.....

You really aren't very good at this.......


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It speaks of the Church. The Church is the Catholic Church. Most Christians are Catholic and it is the oldest Church, started by Jesus.

If the Church has always taught something then that is what Christianity has always taught.

 

[Cearbhall]

New Yorker's have raised it to an art form. Women get suggestive catcalls around every construction site, not just Trump's.

Do you see anyone voting for them for President?

 

[Thursday]

Do you see anyone voting for them for President?

Bill Clinton, the rapist, was elected twice.

 

[Cearbhall]

Bill Clinton, the rapist, was elected twice.

Rapist is going a bit far, but true: people sure sucked back then. I love my generation. I'm glad we've progressed.

 

[SteveB28]

It speaks of the Church. The Church is the Catholic Church.
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I'm sure all your Protestant friends will be so glad to hear that.........

 

[Zoii]

For what's it's worth Trump has come this far by actually saying what many are thinking. Both men and women visually and verbally 'undress' each other all the time. I would be more worried (for his election chances) if he said those things about men.

sigh.... Im 16 and hearing this just makes me feel sick that this is the view of christian men.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

sigh.... Im 16 and hearing this just makes me feel sick that this is the view of christian men.

We have to be honest about the world we live in.

 

[Zoii]

We have to be honest about the world we live in.

Well I sure dont mentally undress men, and if you men do it then I dont wanna hear it from you. I dont wanna feel like I have to dress like a Muslim or be afraid or embarrassed coz I am walking past men. Men are free to think what they will...I just dont want them to think like they can touch me [as Mr Trump suggests] or that they can call out repulsive things to me. Actually if they are a construction worker maybe they should just do their job and watch what they are doing and not the girls passing by.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Well I sure dont mentally undress men, and if you men do it then I dont wanna hear it from you. I dont wanna feel like I have to dress like a Muslim or be afraid or embarrassed coz I am walking past men. Men are free to think what they will...I just dont want them to think like they can touch me [as Mr Trump suggests] or that they can call out repulsive things to me. Actually if they are a construction worker maybe they should just do their job and watch what they are doing and not the girls passing by.

Catcalling the gals is a time-honored tradition among New York construction workers. I wouldn't impute that behavior to any others.

 

[KWCrazy]

Respect is a two way street. If you don't respect yourself, others won't respect you. If you dress and act like a tramp people will assume you're a tramp. If someone takes you by the arm and you don't say "Don't touch me," you will be lumped in with those willingly accepting a stranger's touch. On the old Family Feud show Richard Dawson kissed every female; young and old. None of them ever accused him of sexual assault. Until they saw a chance to get some Clinton cash, none of the Trump accusers claimed sexual assault. I wouldn't want trump to give my wife a passing kiss, but if he did I would tell him "My property" and that would be the end of it. (I can see some of you squirming in your chairs in mad fury at that one.)

The bottom line is, if touching a woman on the arm is sexual assault, then squeezing her arm and threatening her because she told people your husband raped her is 10 times more serious. Where is the outrage? Hillary's history shows that, regardless of what she may claim, she always attacks the victim. How is she held accountable? Many of you will vote for her to be president.

Sad and pathetic, my friends. Sad and pathetic.

 

[Zoii]

Catcalling the gals is a time-honored tradition among New York construction workers. I wouldn't impute that behavior to any others.

Time-honored? It might be time they got into the 21st century and got a new tradition - like - watching what they are doing on the job

 

[Zoii]

Respect is a two way street. If you don't respect yourself, others won't respect you. If you dress and act like a tramp people will assume you're a tramp. If someone takes you by the arm and you don't say "Don't touch me," you will be lumped in with those willingly accepting a stranger's touch. On the old Family Feud show Richard Dawson kissed every female; young and old. None of them ever accused him of sexual assault. Until they saw a chance to get some Clinton cash, none of the Trump accusers claimed sexual assault. I wouldn't want trump to give my wife a passing kiss, but if he did I would tell him "My property" and that would be the end of it. (I can see some of you squirming in your chairs in mad fury at that one.)

The bottom line is, if touching a woman on the arm is sexual assault, then squeezing her arm and threatening her because she told people your husband raped her is 10 times more serious. Where is the outrage? Hillary's history shows that, regardless of what she may claim, she always attacks the victim. How is she held accountable? Many of you will vote for her to be president.

Sad and pathetic, my friends. Sad and pathetic.

 

[KWCrazy]

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You have it backward.
Rape is what Bill Clinton does.
Touching a woman's arm is what Trump does.
Rape is never justified. However, if a woman is dressed like she's looking for a partner she should expect some people to make application. Last I knew, getting hit on never hurt anyone. It happens the other way, too. Women hit on men they find attractive. Checking to see if the store is open is NOT robbery.

 

[com7fy8]

Checking to see if the store is open is NOT robbery.

@Zoli I am robbing myself if I am attracted by women I don't even know, just because of what they look like.

And if I mentally undress females, this is using them, not loving. Love does not have us just using women.