Are there credible witnesses to the resurrection?

[doubtingmerle]

This is really good question.
The honest answer is this: I have no idea. I can not know who testifies to others, and I don't know if they are honest with others and with themselves.

Ah, so you see that the Holy Ghost testifies to both the resurrection and Mormonism. And if some here think the Holy Ghost testifies to resurrection but not Mormonism, then you don't know who it is that testifies to them?

This is the problem with relying on the Holy Ghost as your source of truth. Nobody can seem to agree on what the Holy Ghost is saying.

So, if the Holy Ghost personally do not testify to you about resurrection of Christ you can not be convinced that it is the truth.

Sure I could. But I would need convincing evidence. Are there any credible witnesses to the resurrection?

 

[Alla27]

Ah, so you see that the Holy Ghost testifies to both the resurrection and Mormonism. And if some here think the Holy Ghost testifies to resurrection but not Mormonism, then you don't know who it is that testifies to them?

It doesn't matter what someone tells you. My point is this: if anybody tells you something about Christ and you want to know if this is the truth there is only one way to be convinced - you have to have the Holy Ghost to testify to you personally. Until then you may not be convinced at all.

This is the problem with relying on the Holy Ghost as your source of truth. Nobody can seem to agree on what the Holy Ghost is saying.

It is not the Holy Ghost's job to make sure that all agree on what He says. His mission is to testify to YOU personally so YOU can know the truth for yourself.

Sure I could. But I would need convincing evidence. Are there any credible witnesses to the resurrection?

What kind of evidence would satisfy you?

 

[miknik5]

Many things. Please, be more specific.

I don't know if God revealed this. It doesn't matter anyway.

It does matter. And your being elusive is not helping

 

[miknik5]

How many HOLY SPIRITS are there in Heaven?

since The Father and the Son are one?

 

[Alla27]

It does matter. And your being elusive is not helping

1. why does it matter?
2. I will repeat, I don't know specific place. I don't know this kind of revelation from God.

 

[Alla27]

How many HOLY SPIRITS are there in Heaven?

since The Father and the Son are one?

1. there is one Holy Ghost(Spirit) in God's Kingdom
2.at does it mean "are one" according to your understanding?

 

[miknik5]

1. why does it matter?
2. I will repeat, I don't know specific place. I don't know this kind of revelation from God.

Let me be clear. Whose SPIRIT was in JESUS ? Whose SPIRIT was in JESUS' pre and post crucified body. And whose SPIRIT is in JESUS ascended body?

 

[miknik5]

1. there is one Holy Ghost(Spirit) in God's Kingdom
2.at does it mean "are one" according to your understanding?

Yes it does mean they "are one". Unless there are two HOLY SPIRITS in Heaven

But there isn't

 

[Alla27]

Yes it does mean they "are one". Unless there are two HOLY SPIRITS in Heaven

But there isn't

what does it mean "they are one"?

 

[miknik5]

what does it mean "they are one"?

Exactly that. Unless you are suggesting that there are two HOLY SPIRITS in Heaven?

 

[Alla27]

Let me be clear. Whose SPIRIT was in JESUS ? Whose SPIRIT was in JESUS' pre and post crucified body. And whose SPIRIT is in JESUS ascended body?

His (Jesus's) spirit. Jesus is spirit in physical body. You are spirit in physical body.
Every mortal man and every resurrected man is spirit in physical body.
The Holy Ghost does not have physical body. At least not yet.

 

[miknik5]

what does it mean "they are one"?

You tell me since you seem to have a different understanding which is what has prompted me to persist in asking you this question

 

[Alla27]

Exactly that. Unless you are suggesting that there are two HOLY SPIRITS in Heaven?

my husband and I are one. what do I mean?

 

[miknik5]

my husband and I are one. what do I mean?

You're not GOD and neither is your husband
I don't have access through you or your husband to GOD by ONE SPIRIT

Nor could you or your husband claim that you and GOD are ONE and that anyone who has seen you or your husband has seen GOD

 

[Alla27]

You're not GOD and neither is your husband

of course not. But when I say that we are one what do I mean? do you know?

 

[miknik5]

of course not. But when I say that we are one what do I mean? do you know?

I don't care what you mean personally. I was discussing the TRUTH of GOD and what THE SON who came forth from THE FATHER has said and what is meant by what HE said

 

[miknik5]

Would you have a right to tell someone that anyone who has seen you or your husband has seen GOD?

 

[miknik5]

By the way. You do not have the same spirit as your husband

 

[Alla27]

I don't care what you mean personally.

It is ok. But my point that you have no idea what I mean when I say this. Tell me: what does Christ mean when He says that Father and Him are one?

I was discussing the TRUTH of GOD and what THE SON who came forth from THE FATHER has said and what is meant by what HE said

so, again, what does it mean ACCORDING to Christ?

 

[Alla27]

Would you have a right to tell someone that anyone who has seen you or your husband has seen GOD?

no. what is your point?

 

[miknik5]

It is ok. But my point that you have no idea what I mean when I say this. Tell me: what does Christ mean when He says that Father and Him are one?

so, again, what does it mean ACCORDING to Christ?

Again. The question was asked of you first and foremost

I am not the one who brought something personal into it so as to avoid the question by giving me some unnecessary information bout yourself and your husband

You can't or you won't answer the question which is telling in and of itself