Obama care collapsing.....

[Always in His Presence]

https://knowledgesnap.com/site/ksad...nsurance-in-2017-as-companies-flee-obamacare/

Combine this with the increases set to announced Nov 1

 

[USincognito]

I know that when I think news, I think "knowledgesnap.com".

 

[tulc]

I know that when I think news, I think "knowledgesnap.com".

from their "about us" page:

Our mission is to provide everyone with a secure publishing platform that is easy to use. We take every step possible to ensure that our platform is the most secure.

You are always free to write whatever you want without any restrictions, period. We are proud to be one of the few platforms that never sensors material.

I particularly like that they don't apparently use any sensors on the web site.
tulc(agrees "when I think news, I think knowlegesnap")

 

[sdowney717]

from their "about us" page:

I particularly like that they don't apparently use any sensors on the web site.
tulc(agrees "when I think news, I think knowlegesnap")

https://knowledgesnap.com/site/ksad...nsurance-in-2017-as-companies-flee-obamacare/

Combine this with the increases set to announced Nov 1

One solution is not to get sick, never go to the doctor and quit your job taking one with less money so your income falls and your subsidy covers most of the bronze plan. with that $12,000 deductible that pays for nothing and is only good for catastrophic medical care.

 

[sdowney717]

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/
If president, Hillary says she will do all sorts of stuff:
The British socialized medical care is also in tatters which progressives love.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/10/hospitals-on-brink-of-collapse-say-health-chiefs
http://www.thecommentator.com/artic..._death_rates_45_percent_higher_than_in_the_us

• Defend and expand the Affordable Care Act, which covers 20 million people. Hillary will stand up to Republican-led attacks on this landmark law—and build on its success to bring the promise of affordable health care to more people and make a “public option” possible. She will also support letting people over 55 years old buy into Medicare.
• Bring down out-of-pocket costs like copays and deductibles. American families are being squeezed by rising out-of-pocket health care costs. Hillary believes that workers should share in slower growth of national health care spending through lower costs.
• Reduce the cost of prescription drugs. Prescription drug spending accelerated from 2.5 percent in 2013 to 12.6 percent in 2014. It’s no wonder that almost three-quarters of Americans believe prescription drug costs are unreasonable. Hillary believes we need to demand lower drug costs for hardworking families and seniors. Read more here.
• Protect consumers from unjustified prescription drug price increases from companies that market long-standing, life-saving treatments and face little or no competition. Hillary’s plan includes new enforcement tools that make drug alternatives available and increase competition, broaden emergency access to high-quality treatments from developed countries with strong safety standards, and hold drug companies accountable for unjustified price increases with new penalties. Read more here.
• Fight for health insurance for the lowest-income Americans in every state by incentivizing states to expand Medicaid—and make enrollment through Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act easier.
• Expand access to affordable health care to families regardless of immigration status. Hillary will expand access to affordable health care to families regardless of immigration status by allowing families to buy health insurance on the health exchanges regardless of their immigration status.
• Expand access to rural Americans, who often have difficulty finding quality, affordable health care. Hillary will explore cost-effective ways to make more health care providers eligible for telehealth reimbursement under Medicare and other programs, including federally qualified health centers and rural health clinics.
• Defend access to reproductive health care. Hillary will work to ensure that all women have access to preventive care, affordable contraception, and safe and legal abortion.
• Double funding for community health centers, and support the healthcare workforce: As part of her comprehensive health care agenda, Hillary is committed to doubling the funding for primary-care services at community health centers over the next decade. Hillary also supports President Obama’s call for a near tripling of the size of the National Health Service Corps.

 

[Always in His Presence]

My healthcare went up 40% with higher deductibles and less services. I'm told to not be surprised with a 30% increase in 2017.

I'll need to get a part time job to keep crappy health care.

 

[sdowney717]

My healthcare went up 40% with higher deductibles and less services. I'm told to not be surprised with a 30% increase in 2017.

I'll need to get a part time job to keep crappy health care.

It is pretty awful, but Clinton loves it and will make it even better (more awful I think)
It may eventually become like England's mess with more deaths and long wait times to see a doctor. But the people in the USA get exactly what they vote for, they make their bed and they lie in it. All the various candidates positions are out there for everyone to read about, none to blame but themselves.

 

[MrSpikey]

https://knowledgesnap.com/site/ksad...nsurance-in-2017-as-companies-flee-obamacare/

Combine this with the increases set to announced Nov 1

So, let's have a look at this, shall we?

The Knowledgesnap article summarizes a Breitbart article. When references another Breitbart article.

When you eventually get through all the layers of the onion, what do we see?

While we are pleased with our overall results, in light of updated 2016 projections for our individual products and the significant structural challenges facing the public exchanges, we intend to withdraw all of our 2017 public exchange expansion plans

Pleased with overall results? Surely not!

Stopping expanding on the public exchanges? I thought they were withdrawing? They're making a loss, surely!

Net income (1) was $60.9 million for the second quarter of 2016 compared with $49.1 million for the second quarter of 2015

There must be some losses due to Obamacare in there, though! Breitbart said so!

The increase in net income reflects the reduction of Aetna's reserve for anticipated future losses on discontinued products,

Losses on discontinued products? No, we want to hear about the losses on the Obamacare products!

The increase in both total revenue and operating revenue was primarily due to higher Health Care premium yields and membership growth in Aetna's Government business, partially offset by membership declines in Aetna's Commercial Insured products.

Revenue increase from Government business? Surely not!

If you'd said they were moaning about not being able to maximize profits by, y'know, actually having to cover sick people, you'd be right. There's an overly wordy section that, while repeatedly acknowledging the need to care for the sick, they're displeased with the drag on their profits this creates.

But what of the original claim they are withdrawing plans?

[We] are undertaking a complete evaluation of future participation in our current 15-state footprint

So, they haven't made that decision. Interesting to note they are expecting to be bought out this year, so short term profit boosting may be the order of the day.

http://investor.aetna.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=110617&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2191689

 

[tulc]

So, let's have a look at this, shall we?

The Knowledgesnap article summarizes a Breitbart article. When references another Breitbart article.

When you eventually get through all the layers of the onion, what do we see?



Pleased with overall results? Surely not!

Stopping expanding on the public exchanges? I thought they were withdrawing? They're making a loss, surely!



There must be some losses due to Obamacare in there, though! Breitbart said so!



Losses on discontinued products? No, we want to hear about the losses on the Obamacare products!



Revenue increase from Government business? Surely not!

If you'd said they were moaning about not being able to maximize profits by, y'know, actually having to cover sick people, you'd be right. There's an overly wordy section that, while repeatedly acknowledging the need to care for the sick, they're displeased with the drag on their profits this creates.

But what of the original claim they are withdrawing plans?



So, they haven't made that decision. Interesting to note they are expecting to be bought out this year, so short term profit boosting may be the order of the day.

http://investor.aetna.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=110617&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2191689

pish posh! what are facts when confronted by "RIGHTEOUS REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA FED ZEAL!!!" (tm)
tulc(went 30+ years without a doctor, kind of likes having one now)

 

[MrSpikey]

pish posh! what are facts when confronted by "RIGHTEOUS REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA FED ZEAL!!!" (tm)
tulc(went 30+ years without a doctor, kind of likes having one now)

I know, it's so old fashioned - why read the actual article when all you need to know is right there in the aggregator's headline!

 

[Always in His Presence]

I know that when I think news, I think "knowledgesnap.com".

What do you think when you read CNN?

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/15/news/economy/aetna-obamacare/

 

[Always in His Presence]

Or US News and World Report

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...from-obamacare-leaves-little-insurance-choice

 

[Always in His Presence]

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[tulc]

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Finally! A post I can agree with.
tulc(is a big fan of the ".")

 

[Always in His Presence]

Or US News and World Report

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...from-obamacare-leaves-little-insurance-choice

Between big increases to premiums again and large insurance carriers dropping people, it sure looks like it is crashing hard.

And this is the system Hillary wants to keep.

 

[Always in His Presence]

There are some alternatives including indemnity plans.

We are exploring them

 

[Uncle Siggy]

https://knowledgesnap.com/site/ksad...nsurance-in-2017-as-companies-flee-obamacare/

Combine this with the increases set to announced Nov 1

So Socialist style healthcare is a failure in the US, imagine that...

 

[super animator]

So Socialist style healthcare is a failure in the US, imagine that...

You mean the style that is heavily borrowed from Romney health care plan? That style?
Go home, this isn't the echo chamber that your looking for.

 

[Uncle Siggy]

You mean the style that is heavily borrowed from Romney health care plan? That style?
Go home, this isn't the echo chamber that your looking for.

Romney is a "Baby Progressive" what do you expect???

 

[super animator]

Romney is a "Baby Progressive" what do you expect???

Why? Is Romney not conservative enough for you?