Is it time for Donald to bow out? (MOVED)

[chandraclaws]

It is only sexual assault if he has actually done it; it is locker room talk if he hasn't. If he has committed sexual assault there should be a criminal complaint filed somewhere, until then it really is just talk.

He was bragging about doing it.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

When you demonize fellow human beings, can you still see them as those "love thy neighbors as yourself" Jesus mentioned? Neither Trump nor Clinton are "demons". They are fallible human beings with faults and failings, just like you and me. Attack the position, not the person. God loves Donald and Hillary the exact same as He loves you and I.

She wasn't laughing about Lybia being bombed. She was laughing triumphantly that the mission that Congress authorized was successful beyond what they had hoped for. So was everyone else who was involved in it. You know this. Did you smile when you heard Osama Bin Laden had been caught and was now dead? I admit I did. One of my best friends was on a plane on 9/11 that flew out of the same airport as the hijackers at the very same time. We didn't know if she was dead or alive. I was the one who had to comfort her mentally challenged daughter when she got home that day from daycare, out of her mind with fright for her mom. Why? Her dad had literally gone catatonic. Why is it beneficial to believe we are above the same in others? It just looks worse on them than on us, huh? Think of those who will profit off such a false belief.

I am now earnestly praying for the genuine salvation of Trump and Clinton as being more critical to the eternal than whoever gets to be president for the next 4 years of a human-based system that will someday fade to what it is. Nothing. Care to join me?

She was reacting to death of Qaddafi. No I didn't smile when anyone killed. Tragedy. Demonic laugh is figurative speech. Not that she has demon inside her. It's just literary description of picture you see on video. I was conveying what people in many countries see and think.

 

[chandraclaws]

Hillary:

4. Very sick with Parkinson's disease.

That is not evidence of your claim.

 

[civilwarbuff]

He was bragging about doing it.

Then there should be a criminal complaint; has anyone seen one yet?

 

[civilwarbuff]

IMHO opinion, this country needs a tough, hard nosed business minded person to rescue it from disaster.

We now have "YEMEN"......YEMEN firing missiles at our Navy ships. Not Russia or China but YEMEN. Most people could not tell you where it is even located but now they have the nerve to shoot at our Navy.
What happened???? NOTHING!!!
Iran attacked our Navy. What happened?? NOTHING!

Folks, I suggest that we all sit down and give a lot more thought to this election than just what a man said to another man in private whether what was said offended you or not. There is a lot more at stake here than just WORDS.

If you really want to be offended by something, read about how LBJ talked over all the years he was a politician including as president. I have heard enough in my life to not be shocked by anything that comes out of the mouth of man....or woman......

Edit: you is in the plural sense, not directed at you specifically @Major1

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yeah, somehow he came to Christ without ever being willing to repent.

It's scary to think there are Christians out there who think repentance is not necessary for salvation or they think repentance is merely a change of mind about sin and Jesus. However, repentance involves one being broken before God with a Godly sorrow and crying out to the Lord for forgiveness that then leads to one forsaking their sins (Matthew 12:41 - c.f. Jonah 3:6-9; 1 John 1:9, 1 John 1:7 - c.f 1 John 2:3-6, Proverbs 28:13, Luke 18:9-14, Matthew 21:28-32, Matthew 3:6 - cf. Matthew 3:11 and Matthew 3:8).


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[tickingclocker]

She was reacting to death of Qaddafi. No I didn't smile when anyone killed. Tragedy. Demonic laugh is figurative speech. Not that she has demon inside her. It's just literary description of picture you see on video. I was conveying what people in many countries see and think.

I was rather repulsed by watching it, too. She wasn't the only one laughing, however. They all were. Then I considered how I reacted when news of Bin Laden's death came through. God forgive us. Sometimes we know all too well what we are doing, and we still do it.

 

[Aldebaran]

No. A president has to be able to make important decisions that effect our daily life. His personal life tells us the kind of person he would be in his professional life. He hasn't got a clue. His morals have not changed. Would you want Hilter to run this country? That is how Trump appears like to me. He yells just like him. He is even racist like Hitler. Trump is a bully; And for me (and my experience), nothing good ever comes from bullies. But you can see whatever you want to see.

What if he said the same things as usual, but used more polished, politically correct sounding ways of saying them, and did it calmly from a teleprompter?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

It is only sexual assault if he has actually done it; it is locker room talk if he hasn't. If he has committed sexual assault there should be a criminal complaint filed somewhere, until then it really is just talk.

Jesus says "...out of the abundance of the heart does the mouth speak; And an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil"

In other words, what he says tells us alot about WHO he is as a person and how he will treat us as Americans. He also spoke racists comments as well. He also thinks people are losers if they are not rich, too. So according to Trump, you are not a winner (if you are not rich and or if you are not a super attractive woman). In other words, Trump's world does not line up with the real world involving politics. He might be a successful business man, and hurt alot of people in his businesses, but you really can't operate a country the same way like that.


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[tickingclocker]

It's scary to think there are Christians out there who think repentance is not necessary for salvation or they think repentance is merely a change of mind about sin and Jesus. However, repentance involves one being broken before God with a Godly sorrow and crying out to the Lord for forgiveness that then leads to one forsaking their sins (Matthew 12:41 - c.f. Jonah 3:6-9; 1 John 1:9, 1 John 1:7 - c.f 1 John 2:3-6, Proverbs 28:13, Luke 18:9-14, Matthew 21:28-32, Matthew 3:6 - cf. Matthew 3:11 and Matthew 3:8).


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Key word there: FORSAKING. Haven't seen any sign of that thus far. Hopefully its just that my glasses need cleaning from all the tears being shed from watching the America I thought I lived in disappear before my eyes no matter who "wins".

Oh, how I wish that the conspiracy theorists out there could stumble across even a tiny, forgotten bit of Constitutional addendum which says we can delay the election and force our political parties to give us an actual pitcher rather than dirty glasses of water to vote for. Where are they when you really need them?

 

[4x4toy]

She was reacting to death of Qaddafi. No I didn't smile when anyone killed. Tragedy. Demonic laugh is figurative speech. Not that she has demon inside her. It's just literary description of picture you see on video. I was conveying what people in many countries see and think.

Friend , you were quite clear in your first post .. Your thoughts and perspectives are as appreciated as any other poster .. We have something in America called "political correctness" that seems at times to take precedent over free speech and truth .. These forum are full of "PC police" who will call you out like they belong to the "clique in high school" .. Just relax , post your thoughts and enjoy . You are free and owe no one .. God bless ..

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

I was rather repulsed by watching it, too. She wasn't the only one laughing, however. They all were. Then I considered how I reacted when news of Bin Laden's death came through. God forgive us. Sometimes we know all too well what we are doing, and we still do it.

But I agree 100% about their souls before God. I pray for all world leaders like you said, and as God's Word tells us. Yes, I'm not better in eyes of Jesus. Agreed. Shouldn't be judging so quickly anybody.... My own logs in my eyes first. Very true...

 

[tickingclocker]

Jesus says "...out of the abundance of the heart does the mouth speak; And an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil"

This means tells us a lot about who is as a person and how he will treat us as Americans. He also spoke racists comments as well. He also thinks people are losers if they are not rich, too. So according to Trump, you are not a winner (if you are not rich and or if you are not a super attractive woman). In other words, Trump's world does not line up with the real world involving politics. He might be a successful business man, and hurt alot of people in his businesses, but you really can't operate a country the same way like that.


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When you consider all his comments together, it doesn't sound like he's ever actually read the bible in his entire life. Does it?

Trump admits he hates to read, but rather prefers sound bite summations. Time is money.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

What if he said the same things as usual, but used more polished, politically correct sounding ways of saying them, and did it calmly from a teleprompter?

She talked to people directly and called them by name and actually gave intelligent responses. That should be one of the many bear minimum requirements to be the President of the United States. Trump insults people when asked questions and he looks past them as if they do not exist. He openly contradicts himself and is disruptive and hateful. If that's the American man you prefer as an alternative for being President, then I wish you the best of luck. But such openly idiotic antics from an individual would only lead to quick destruction of our country. A president has to be a diplomat and not a person who is a hot head who avoids questions. Also, why would you let someone who appears to be even remotely a hot head near nuclear codes? Doesn't make sense to me. I see nothing but the end if that man ever got into office. He would be safe and protected, but the rest of us would be toast.


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[civilwarbuff]

Jesus says "...out of the abundance of the heart does the mouth speak; And an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil"

This means tells us a lot about who is as a person and how he will treat us as Americans. He also spoke racists comments as well. He also thinks people are losers if they are not rich, too. So according to Trump, you are not a winner (if you are not rich and or if you are not a super attractive woman). In other words, Trump's world does not line up with the real world involving politics. He might be a successful business man, and hurt alot of people in his businesses, but you really can't operate a country the same way like that.


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I, for one, have never been too concerned about what other people (especially the rich and politicians) think about me....least ways I have not lost any sleep over yet......

 

[derGroßmütige]

When you demonize fellow human beings, can you still see them as those "love thy neighbors as yourself" Jesus mentioned?

You later go on to say you smile at the death of another human and you criticize them for calling a corrupt criminal sociopathic lying traitor a "demon"? Please be careful and realize your own contradictions. I won't use the H word.

Neither Trump nor Clinton are "demons". They are fallible human beings with faults and failings, just like you and me. Attack the position, not the person. God loves Donald and Hillary the exact same as He loves you and I.

She wasn't laughing about Lybia being bombed. She was laughing triumphantly that the mission that Congress authorized was successful beyond what they had hoped for. So was everyone else who was involved in it. You know this. Did you smile when you heard Osama Bin Laden had been caught and was now dead? I admit I did.

Then by that extension, doesn't God love Osama same as He loves you and I? She said "We came, we saw, he died" about the brutal RAPE and murder of Gaddafi. That's pure evil. She laughed about having a man sodomized and murdered. Short of direct blasphemy and setting up a satanic altar to the devil, she committed the worst possible sins.

And to preface this, Gaddafi HAD nuclear stockpiles and gave them up, trusting America would not overthrow him or have him killed, precisely as Hillary Clinton did to him, which sends a message to Iran, North Korea, and all other nuclear powers that if you give up your nukes and become defenceless, Hillary will have you sodomized and murdered.

I am now earnestly praying for the genuine salvation of Trump and Clinton as being more critical to the eternal than whoever gets to be president for the next 4 years of a human-based system that will someday fade to what it is. Nothing. Care to join me?

Christians should be praying for their salvation sure especially Trump, who is a sinner but declares himself a protector of Christians, and praying for the defeat of Clinton who is openly hostile to not only America (she wants a one world government similar to what the Tower of Babel tried to achieve and like what the antichrist will one day try to achieve) but she is even hostile to Christians. She is in favor of imprisoning Christians who refuse to bake a gay wedding cake. She is in favor of laws silencing people speaking out against transgender bathrooms.

Pray for deliverance from the enemies of Christ and the lifting up of servants of Christ.

If Hillary wins, civil war will probably break out. Things have gotten that serious. The Right cannot allow a criminal traitor to take office, and we'll likely see a military coup, civil war, or at best, a peaceful separation. I've spoken with a governor about what he'd do if she wins and let's just say, it would shock most of you but to the GOP right now it's our best option if she wins because she will give amnesty to 12 million and fast-track them for citizenship which would mean the GOP (and by extension Christians) will never get the White House ever again.

 

[Aldebaran]

She talked to people directly and called them by name and actually gave intelligent responses. That should be one of the many bear minimum requirements to be the President of the United States. Trump insults people when asked questions and he looks past them as if they do not exist. He openly contradicts himself and is disruptive and hateful. If that's the American man you prefer as an alternative for being President, then I wish you the best of luck. But such openly idiotic antics from an individual would only lead to quick destruction of our country. A president has to be a diplomat and not a person who is a hot head who avoids questions. Also, why would you let someone who appears to be even remotely a hot head near nuclear codes? Doesn't make sense to me. I see nothing but the end if that man ever got into office. He would be safe and protected, but the rest of us would be toast.

I'll take that as a "yes" answer to my question.

 

[Theo Book]

The problem with your post here is that you assume that anyone recognizing that Donald Trump is complete trash automatically means they approve of/endorse/will vote for Hillary Clinton. I don't play this partisan foolishness game that many here do. Trash is trash. He does NOT deserve to ever be president of this country.

There is no such thing as a lesser of two evils in this race. I will vote third party because I refuse to compromise my beliefs and morals for the likes of the two of them.

Nobody that votes for Donald Trump can ever claim any sort of high ground. I consider any professing Christian that votes for him to be compromising their faith to do so.

When the Hebrew nation thought they were in charge, God told them how it really is -
Daniel 2:20 "Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his: 21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:..."

And in case they missed the point, and thought God was only interested in the leadership of Israel, He quickly enlightened them to further facts about who runs the world of Men -
Daniel 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

Daniel 4:25 "... till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.[4:32]

Jer 27:5 I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto me. 6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him. 7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him.

8 And it shall come to pass, that the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the LORD, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand.

9 Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon:

If God judges this nation for its Abortion murders of the unborn, and the totally immoral issue of Homosexuality, which God calls "Abomination," and this nation refuses to choose from among those whom God has offered under our own system, then rest assured, He WILL settle this nation in a much harder way; pestilence, disease, war, all have been used by God in His judging of nations.

It is well past time Christians speak out and stop this slide into the abyss of immorality and filth of baby murder and homosexuality.

And yes, I am a Christian, and I have faith in my God that will see me through even those time with which I would not choose, because I trust Him, not my fellow men.

When I pray to my God at election time, I do not pray for a moral leader by name, for I am unqualified to judge the hearts of Men, but God knows the hearts and minds of all, and I trust Him to give us the leader we deserve, whether a good and God-fearing Man, or woman, or a leader of base content who will serve to lead us into judgment, even in his ignorance.

God's will be done. He has lifted up two terrible choices, and I will choose the one who is against baby-murder and flaunting of public Homosexuality.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

When you consider all his comments together, it doesn't sound like he's ever actually read the bible in his entire life. Does it?

Trump admits he hates to read, but rather prefers sound bite summations. Time is money.

Well, there are people who have told me they have read the Bible cover to cover but yet I know they do not know Jesus by their unwilliness to want to talk about God and or their lifestyle. So there are many different kinds of unbelievers out there.

Anyways, it says on Wikipedia that Trump did not feel it was necessary to confess of his sins to God even though he claims to be Christian. He even refers to the word "church" as if it was something that is like a club membership (an outside entity) and not that he is a part of the church (i.e. the body of Christ or anything). But we should pray for him, even if it might seem like he may be a hopeless case. For who would have prayed for Saul when he was persecuting Christians (before he became Paul)?


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[Aldebaran]

If God judges this nation for its Abortion murders of the unborn, and the totally immoral issue of Homosexuality, which God calls "Abomination," and this nation refuses to choose from among those whom God has offered under our own system, then rest assured, He WILL settle this nation in a much harder way; pestilence, disease, war, all have been used by God in His judging of nations.

It is well past time Christians speak out and stop this slide into the abyss of immorality and filth of baby murder and homosexuality.

And yes, I am a Christian, and I have faith in my God that will see me through even those time with which I would not choose, because I trust Him, not my fellow men.

I won't disagree with you. We're stuck with 2 terrible choices for our next president, and Russia seems to be gearing up for war against us. Things are not looking good for us.