Is it time for Donald to bow out? (MOVED)

[Major1]

Apologize? He made the excuse that it was only locker room banter. Is bragging about sexual assault okay in locker rooms?

You are correct but I am sorry but I in fact heard him apologize and ask for forgiveness. I do not know if he is sorry he said it or sorry he got caught saying it.

The point I am making is that not one single person should be upset or excited over what he said. He was only recorded in saying what every man has said or heard at one time or another. I am not saying he is right or that it was acceptable, only that it is nothing new.

Do you really think that the people in Washington DC do not act like that and talk like that every single day??????

 

[Major1]

He is a proven strong leader. He understand economics. He is tough.

IMHO opinion, this country needs a tough, hard nosed business minded person to rescue it from disaster.

We now have "YEMEN"......YEMEN firing missiles at our Navy ships. Not Russia or China but YEMEN. Most people could not tell you where it is even located but now they have the nerve to shoot at our Navy.
What happened???? NOTHING!!!
Iran attacked our Navy. What happened?? NOTHING!

Folks, I suggest that we all sit down and give a lot more thought to this election than just what a man said to another man in private whether what was said offended you or not. There is a lot more at stake here than just WORDS.

 

[muchado]

Check out Heb.9:22. Where can Trump get someone or something to shed blood for the remission of his sins? Who or what do you get to shed blood for the remission of your sins? Do you pray to God for the forgiving of your sins? Why would you? Why would anyone? Jesus shed His Blood for the forgiving of the sins of the whole world. There is no other that can shed blood for the forgiving of sins. Jesus will never die again, for any reason. Read the scriptures and learn.

Heb 9:22 probably refers to Jewish Christians who were continuing to sacrifice. The writer of Hebrews speaks against this because they are disregarding the once-for-all sacrifice of Christ.

However, do we need to repent and believe? Certainly. In order to become a follower of Christ, this is required, and we also need to show the works of repentance (Acts 26:20). And for those of of us who stumble we need to repent. 1 John is written to believers (see 1 John 2:12-14,19;3:1;5:13) and it states that "[8] If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. [10] If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us. " 1 John 1:8-10 (NIV). John goes on to tell us that in repenting we are relying on the sacrifice of Christ. We are further told that we need to obey Jesus' commands to show that we are in Him. Jesus tells us not to lie, not to commit adultery, Mark 10:19. Lying, not repenting, and continuing in lying is condemned in Revelation and leads to destruction.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

You are correct but I am sorry but I in fact heard him apologize and ask for forgiveness. I do not know if he is sorry he said it or sorry he got caught saying it.

The point I am making is that not one single person should be upset or excited over what he said. He was only recorded in saying what every man has said or heard at one time or another. I am not saying he is right or that it was acceptable, only that it is nothing new.

Do you really think that the people in Washington DC do not act like that and talk like that every single day??????

Yes. Don't be naive. Be adults. But most people today naive and like child? Brains washed with so much garbage, cannot do sound adult thinking and clear logic, and prioritizing to big issues and small stuff??

 

[Major1]

True. And other situations. Like forcing Qaddafi to agree he did bad things he didn't and pay money..

Anyways, not to be concentrated in one man!! Good or bad. We forget, Qaddafi is not only person in all of Lybia!!! There are many many other innocent people, and they suffer so much because one man is bad? What kind of logic is that? And whole region is destroyed. It's like card house. You remove one card, whole house come down. Ask those women in Kolne in Germany raped in New Year party by crazy criminal migrants.

Isn't the situation in Libya now due to the insurgent ISIS ???????

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

IMHO opinion, this country needs a tough, hard nosed business minded person to rescue it from disaster.

We now have "YEMEN"......YEMEN firing missiles at our Navy ships. Not Russia or China but YEMEN. Most people could not tell you where it is even located but now they have the nerve to shoot at our Navy.
What happened???? NOTHING!!!
Iran attacked our Navy. What happened?? NOTHING!

Folks, I suggest that we all sit down and give a lot more thought to this election than just what a man said to another man in private whether what was said offended you or not. There is a lot more at stake here than just WORDS.

Don't exaggarate. Yemen shooted by mistake. They think, it's not USA but Saudi ships. All the time bad things happened in previous years to USA military and to all military. You react accordingly to situation. Now news tell every second every little thing - information avelanche. So we know "all". But we make wrong conclusions sometimes - we're not experts in all things.

 

[Major1]

Yes. Don't be naive. Be adults. But most people today naive and like child? Brains washed with so much garbage, cannot do sound adult thinking and clear logic, and prioritizing to big issues and small stuff??

I think I agree with you. I believe you are saying that we all need to act like we are grown ups and not children.

May I also say to you that the people now saying....."I can not vote for Trump because of what he said"..............
were never going to vote for him to begin with.

His lewd comments only gave them cover for what they were not going to do in the 1st place.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Isn't the situation in Libya now due to the insurgent ISIS ???????

Where this 4 letter organization appeared from? From out of air??? And why it went to Lybia easy now? Just think, cause and effect. And not opposite way.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

I think I agree with you. I believe you are saying that we all need to act like we are grown ups and not children.

May I also say to you that the people now saying....."I can not vote for Trump because of what he said"..............
were never going to vote for him to begin with.

His lewd comments only gave them cover for what they were not going to do in the 1st place.

100% agree. Just no real understandnig. No real thinkign. Just following wind like autumn leafs

 

[Major1]

Don't exaggarate. Yemen shooted by mistake. They think, it's not USA but Saudi ships. All the time bad things happened in previous years to USA military and to all military. You react accordingly to situation. Now news tell every second every little thing - information avelanche. So we know "all". But we make wrong conclusions sometimes - we're not experts in all things.

How would you know that? I have been at work all day. Was there some news flash that confirms your comment.

BUT, what if one of those missiles did in fact hit our ship and killed 500 men. Do you think it is then to say OK it was a mistake when the truth is the people who shot the weapons got them from IRAN?

 

[SpunkyDoodle]

Do you really think that the people in Washington DC do not act like that and talk like that every single day??????

If anyone is at all bothered by this banter (how is it not illegal to record someone without their consent?) they truly would be upset hearing the things that are said in DC all the time.

 

[Major1]

Where this 4 letter organization appeared from? From out of air??? And why it went to Lybia easy now? Just think, cause and effect. And not opposite way.

NO! They migrated from the War area in Syrian/Iraq vacuum created by the policy of Obama when he pulled all the troops we had out of the region. Now that there is a war there, they are leaving for other areas.

 

[Major1]

If anyone is at all bothered by this banter (how is it not illegal to record someone without their consent?) they truly would be upset hearing the things that are said in DC all the time.

Agreed 100%.

I am a Christian and I do not use that kind of language. However, I have been in hundreds of locker rooms and fought in war in VietNam and what he said is nothing to what is said everywhere everyday.

 

[4x4toy]

True. And other situations. Like forcing Qaddafi to agree he did bad things he didn't and pay money..

Anyways, not to be concentrated in one man!! Good or bad. We forget, Qaddafi is not only person in all of Lybia!!! There are many many other innocent people, and they suffer so much because one man is bad? What kind of logic is that? And whole region is destroyed. It's like card house. You remove one card, whole house come down. Ask those women in Kolne in Germany raped in New Year party by crazy criminal migrants.

Friend , I have met and worked with many fine people from the Middle East .. My son flies to Istanbul in a couple weeks then visits three other cities in Turkey to tour manufacturing facilities then back home .. I'm convinced he will enjoy the hospitality of the common people just like your country and mine

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

How would you know that? I have been at work all day. Was there some news flash that confirms your comment.

BUT, what if one of those missiles did in fact hit our ship and killed 500 men. Do you think it is then to say OK it was a mistake when the truth is the people who shot the weapons got them from IRAN?

Let's not twist what maybe can happen. Let's talk reality. It's true, very true, what you say, that image of USA is very low now in most of world. Maybe only not in some countries. And Trump is very right and wise to see it. Hillary Clinton want to continue, and she will! But not those cases of shooting or whatever. You know, USA going to so much into business of other countries, like not any time before! So, countries must react, must protect!! What choice? Like we say, you scare little mouse in corner, it jump at you like angry cat.

Question is, what is policy of USA in all of world for many years? Hipocrisy and aggression! Just looking for domination by any means. Zero morality. You think that is a reason? You think that's why countries fight back?

Not because of weak USA. USA is strongest of all, nobody doubts it. But countries not yet all broken... Like in physics, Newton's law - all action sees counter-action.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

NO! They migrated from the War area in Syrian/Iraq vacuum created by the policy of Obama when he pulled all the troops we had out of the region. Now that there is a war there, they are leaving for other areas.

Yes. So, who at fault? Qaddafi? Or force that destroid Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria/Palestine etc etc etc???? Or force, that gives $$$ and weapons?

 

[muchado]

You are correct but I am sorry but I in fact heard him apologize and ask for forgiveness. I do not know if he is sorry he said it or sorry he got caught saying it.

The point I am making is that not one single person should be upset or excited over what he said. He was only recorded in saying what every man has said or heard at one time or another. I am not saying he is right or that it was acceptable, only that it is nothing new.

Do you really think that the people in Washington DC do not act like that and talk like that every single day??????

I do not speak like that and I do not associate with people who do so (2 Timothy 3:1-5). I don't remember anyone saying such appalling things in my presence, and the people who brag in this way are deeply twisted. What is your evidence that people in Washington do that every day? How many? Name names and count proportions. Suspicions are not enough - we are warned to respect our authorities and not give false testimony.

And what is your point? Shall we encourage people to sin more so that grace may abound (Romans 6:1)? Never! We are told not to associate with such people. Can we be a holy people and a witness to the world if we endorse a man who speaks this way? See Ephesians 4:29, Matthew 15:11, 1 Peter 1:16.

 

[Major1]

Let's not twist what maybe can happen. Let's talk reality. It's true, very true, what you say, that image of USA is very low now in most of world. Maybe only not in some countries. And Trump is very right and wise to see it. Hillary Clinton want to continue, and she will! But not those cases of shooting or whatever. You know, USA going to so much into business of other countries, like not any time before! So, countries must react, must protect!! What choice? Like we say, you scare little mouse in corner, it jump at you like angry cat.

Question is, what is policy of USA in all of world for many years? Hipocrisy and aggression! Just looking for domination by any means. Zero morality. You think that is reason? You think that's why countries fight back?

Not because of weak USA. USA is strongest of all, nobody doubts it. But countries not yet all broken...

My dear brother. I do not mean to argue or be defensive. I am agreeing with you.

My point is that if the USA had any leadership and determination no country would fire upon anything we had whether it thought a ship was from Saudi Arabia or the USA. There was a time when no one would do such a thing if there was a THOUHT it may be from the USA.

Think about this. What do you think would happen if Ethiopia fired upon an Israeli military ship in the Red Sea and killed 500 Jews????

Why has it not happened??? They know exactly what the Israeli's would do. That is respect and fear which keeps the peace.

Whether it was Yemen or Iran, they know what the USA will do in the same situation. NOTHIN WHAT SO EVER.

 

[Major1]

I do not speak like that and I do not associate with people who do so (2 Timothy 3:1-5). I don't remember anyone saying such appalling things in my presence, and the people who brag in this way are deeply twisted. What is your evidence that people in Washington do that every day? How many? Name names and count proportions. Suspicions are not enough - we are warned to respect our authorities and not give false testimony.

And what is your point? Shall we encourage people to sin more so that grace may abound (Romans 6:1)? Never! We are told not to associate with such people. Can we be a holy people and a witness to the world if we endorse a man who speaks this way? See Ephesians 4:29, Matthew 15:11, 1 Peter 1:16.

For one thing, I have lived there. My wife and I go out to eat at restaurants and shopping etc. I have several associates living there now and we visit about twice a year. You do not have to have a hearing aid to hear peoples' language just walking down the street.

I have no need to list names or places or situations for you my friend. Why don't you just go and sit in a bar and have a glass of water and LISTEN to what is being said all around you. Be real my friend.

For you to say that "no one has said such appalling things in your presence" is IMO very disingenuous on your part and I have a real problem believing you.

My point is clear. NO ONE should be appalled at what Trump said 12 years ago. Was it lewd? YES!
Was it stupid? YES! Was it a surprise NO!!!!

Do you really believe that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton do not say the same words???? REALITY my friend...REALITY.

 

[Major1]

Friend , I have met and worked with many fine people from the Middle East .. My son flies to Istanbul in a couple weeks then visits three other cities in Turkey to tour manufacturing facilities then back home .. I'm convinced he will enjoy the hospitality of the common people just like your country and mine

You are absolutely correct and I am right there with you. We have been to Egypt and Israel and were treated wonderfully.

However, we must live in the reality that extreme Muslim terrorists have killed thousands of children and women and men for no reason other than there religion dictated it.

It seems to me that all Muslims are NOT terrorists, but ALL terrorists seem to be Muslim extremists.