Is it time for Donald to bow out? (MOVED)

[Major1]

This woman agrees as well

(LOL! yes, well not quite, but since 2004...right about the time when i got my first computer)

That is just amazing to me.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

James 5:16 -
Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Matthew 6:14 -
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

Do those verses apply to everyone or just some. I think I heard Mr. Trump confess and ask for foregiveness.

There is nothing Trump did wrong towards me personally so as to forgive. We are talking about who is most fit to run this country.

As for him confessing his sins:

Here is a quote from his page on Wikipedia.

"Trump has said that although he participates in Holy Communion, he has not asked God for forgiveness for his sins. He stated, "I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture."

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[Bible Highlighter]

A bigger tell is the quote........."I didn't know what that "C" meant on those 103 classified pieces of paper".

She was only the highest ranking official on the Presidents cabinet and she didn't know????

If that had been you you would be in jail and we would not be having this lovely conversation.

Again, you need evidence in a court of law. You were not there. You cannot convict a person without evidence. Otherwise we are no better than those who condemned Jesus without evidence.


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[brinny]

That is just amazing to me.

me too.

God bless Donald Trump. THIS is why God will bless him.

Praying for this precious woman and her son too.

 

[Major1]

Again, you were not there. You cannot convict a person without evidence. Otherwise we are no better than those who condemned Jesus without evidence.


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So are you saying that the head of the FBI LIED about what the investigation showed??????

He had the evidence. He said they found 103 documents which were marked classified in her deleted emails.
She then had her phone destroyed and bleached clean.

Did you watch his news conference?????

He had everything needed to indict her but he did not choose to do it. WHYY?????

Do you really think that the 20 minute conversation with the attorney general was not a promise to him that he could keep his job if he did nothing????

I do not have to see bear poop to know that a bear has been in my garbage at night!

Now lets be real. If this was George Bush that all of this involved, what would you be demanding right now??????

I know exactly what would be said!

 

[Major1]

me too.

God bless Donald Trump. THIS is why God will bless him.

Praying for this precious woman and her son too.

Amen!

Again I must say......was he stupid? YES! Was his language lewd and crude? YES!

Did he apologize and ask for forgiveness....YES.

Now, did Mr. Clinton do that?

 

[brinny]

Amen!

Amen brother!!!

 

[Bible Highlighter]

So are you saying that the head of the FBI LIED about what the investigation showed??????

He had the evidence. He said they found 103 documents which were marked classified in her deleted emails.
She then had her phone destroyed and bleached clean.

Did you watch his news conference?????

He had everything needed to indict her but he did not choose to do it. WHYY?????

Do you really think that the 20 minute conversation with the attorney general was not a promise to him that he could keep his job if he did nothing????

I do not have to see bear poop to know that a bear has been in my garbage at night!

Now lets be real. If this was George Bush that all of this involved, what would you be demanding right now??????

I know exactly what would be said!

Again, you don't know people's agendas. Maybe it is true; and maybe it is not true. You need evidence to convict a person of a crime. You never had this evidence yourself. There are many reasons why he could have lied. And yes, it is possible for people to be corrupt in all departments of our government.


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[VanillaSunflowers]

Amen!

At my age, I would just like to vote for someone worthy to be the president instead of voteing for the lesser of two evils.

1980 and 1984 was the last times I had the opportunity to do that.

I spoke with a woman today who said she's voting write in; Jesus Christ.

I like that.

 

[Hank77]

What we need to grasp is that Mrs. Clinton destroyed 33,000 "Confidential" emails AFTER they were supenoed by congress. That my friends is breaking federal and she should have been arrested. He said something outrageous but she did something UNLAWFUL which could and may have lead to deaths of American citizens.

This whole email thing has been very confusing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-investigation.html?_r=0

 

[Bible Highlighter]

But currently, in good conscience, with the potential dark shadow looming over the Clintons, I could not vote for Hillary (even if it meant that Trump could win now). So let God's will be done.

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[Bible Highlighter]

I spoke with a woman today who said she's voting write in; Jesus Christ.

I like that.

Yes. That is the best vote ever.


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[VanillaSunflowers]

A bigger tell is the quote........."I didn't know what that "C" meant on those 103 classified pieces of paper".

She was only the highest ranking official on the Presidents cabinet and she didn't know????

If that had been you you would be in jail and we would not be having this lovely conversation.

Really, it's excuses for why she's unfit to be President isn't it?

Comey said about her illegal use of a basement server, and destroying 33,000 emails after she was subpeoned for them,that if the same behavior was in the work history of someone applying to work for the FBI and get a security clearance, he'd have to turn them down. After he had said of Hillary herself in regard to those behaviors, but not the only one's by far, that they happened because she was unsophisticated and reckless!

Now, she's not even conscious of what the C in "Classified" stands for?

Well that's bull punch isn't it? Because if she didn't know the word classified started with a capital "C" on a Classified document header, she wouldn't have been able to tell her aids to cut that part off documents bearing the "C"lassified header so that she could then forward those papers otherwise unaltered to people using her illegal basement server!

People have to stop making excuses for Hillary's wilful criminal unethical behavior. And the reason being is, they're doing that, making excuses for it, minimizing the damage potential when she was SoS, or the damage done in the case of lost American lives on her watch, because they want her to be the leader of the free world!
Which is traditionally what the President of the U.S is referred to as.

Both candidates suck, but to ignore, excuse, gloss over, wrap in false excuses, chronic serial criminal behavior just to get the offender into the highest office of their career, when all those behaviors were done just to achieve that pinnacle, is pathetic! And frankly, indefensible.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

with the potential dark shadow looming over the Clintons

The darkest of all shadows in our world.

 

[Vicomte13]

So, after the latest revelation is it time for Donald to bow out? Why or why not? Please let's be adults about this; no polemics which is the reason I posted this here instead of News and Curent Events. Just state your reason for or against based on what you feel fairly certain to be true.

Of course Trump should not bow out, any more than Bill Clinton should have, or did, just because he was called to account for sexual hanky-panky. Clinton reasoned that he was popular enough with enough people, for a variety of reasons, that he could ride out the storm and retain power - and he was right. Why "bow out" and commit political suicide, ever?

Trump reasons exactly the same thing. He was taped engaging in some "locker room talk". Now some people who hate him anyway are trying to do to him what the people who hated Bill Clinton tried to do to him. Clinton ignored them and soldiered on and retained power, and Trump will - and should - ignore his critics and soldier on and perhaps gain power in spite of his enemies and the fallout from his words.

There is no reason that a person should ever bow out or commit political suicide simply because his enemies win a battle. You just double down and fight harder - and because your enemies have shown you how much they hate you and how desperate they are to destroy you (as those who hated Clinton showed by their actions against him, and those who hate Trump show by theirs) - if you win, you have the satisfaction of watching people who hate you writhe in impotent apoplexy.

The quest for power is a brutal, no-holds-barred business. Neither side will pull its punches. Hillary and the Democrats will destroy Trump if they can. And Trump will throw Hillary in jail if he can. Neither side is going to back down or show any mercy. Certainly they're not going to get any.

The American President is always one of the world's most ruthless killers, responsible for orders that result in the deaths of thousands worldwide. Of course the people who crave such power and attention are quite malignant and abnormal in various ways. Of course they do not have shame like normal middle class people.

Of course Trump won't back down, and should not. That game is not played by backing down.

 

[SpunkyDoodle]

I am not sure if this point has been made as yet. I'm not feeling 100%, and not up to reading 20 pages.

This election is not for PASTOR, and it is not for SAVIOR. This is not about electing your next Bible Study leader, or associate pastor. The Repub Establishment has complained for decades about getting the "Christians" out of the Repub party, because we keep bringing up moral issues. They complain we need to get away from that, and rid the party of these people. Also, the TEA Party needed to go, and that was evident in Town Hall meetings in 2010.

They should be really happy with Trump, as he is not exemplary of the Moral Majority, and states it in certain ways. Now they have that candidate, and they are bothered that something proves he is the kind of guy they want, so there is BLAME being thrown around.

The goal should be to keep such a criminal, and a criminal enterprise, out of the Highest Office in our land. That should be enough for any of us to know that Donald Trump is the only person capable of doing that.

Trump is being judged as a politician, when he is not. He is a businessman, and all this talk for the last few decades of turning over Fed.Income Tax Records is designed to keep outsiders from gaining access to the Ruling Class of America and the World. The politician orders everything in his life - especially the taxes - to make a certain acceptable impression. The businessman has goals that are nothing like "how will the public feel about how this looks?" He is intent on staying in business.

Heterosexual men like girls/women, and want to be accepted by them. Rapists hate women and girls, and do their crimes to intimidate, scare, and control them. Hillary's role in her rapist husband's illicit sexual activities was to quell the issue. Doing that necessarily (in her estimation) meant to destroy the person who may report or "tell" what happened to her at her husband's hands.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

I am not sure if this point has been made as yet. I'm not feeling 100%, and not up to reading 20 pages.

This election is not for PASTOR, and it is not for SAVIOR. This is not about electing your next Bible Study leader, or associate pastor. The Repub Establishment has complained for decades about getting the "Christians" out of the Repub party, because we keep bringing up moral issues. They complain we need to get away from that, and rid the party of these people. Also, the TEA Party needed to go, and that was evident in Town Hall meetings in 2010.

They should be really happy with Trump, as he is not exemplary of the Moral Majority, and states it in certain ways. Now they have that candidate, and they are bothered that something proves his is the kind of guy they want, and now, there is BLAME being thrown around.

The goal should be to keep such a criminal, and a criminal enterprise, out of the Highest office in our land. That should be enough for any of us to know that Donald Trump is the only person capable of doing that.

Trump is being judged as a politician, when he is not. He is a businessman, and all this talk for the last few decades of turning over Fed.Income Tax Records is designed to keep outsiders from gaining access to the Ruling Class of America and the World. The politician orders everything in his like - especially the taxes - to make a certain acceptable impression. The businessman has goals that are nothing like "how will the public feel about how this looks?" He is intent on staying in business.

Heterosexual men like girls/women, and want to be accepted by them. Rapists hate women and girls, and do their crimes to intimidate, scare, and control them. Hillary's role in her rapist husband's illicit sexual activities was to quell the issue. Doing that necessarily (in her estimation) meant to destroy the person who may report or "tell" what happened to her at her husband's hands.

I'm afraid Christians will vote for Hillary Clinton and I am sure she will win.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Both candidates suck....

I found my state ballot and I have a choice between NINE presidential candidates. I don't need to waste my vote by marking Trump to stop Hillary or marking Hillary to stop Trump. BOTH should bow out. Given that neither will, we should have the sense not to vote for them. I'm not looking back - I'm voting for Evan McMullen. If people still want to vote for one of these two LOSERS and one of them wins, it's not my fault. Abandon them both. Pick a decent candidate for a change.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

I found my state ballot and I have a choice between NINE presidential candidates. I don't need to waste my vote by marking Trump to stop Hillary or marking Hillary to stop Trump. BOTH should bow out. Given that neither will, we should have the sense not to vote for them. I'm not looking back - I'm voting for Evan McMullen. If people still want to vote for one of these two LOSERS and one of them wins, it's not my fault. Abandon them both. Pick a decent candidate for a change.

Rare voice of wisdom. Too bad very few think that way

 

[Meowzltov]

Did he apologize and ask for forgiveness....YES.

Apologize? He made the excuse that it was only locker room banter. Is bragging about sexual assault okay in locker rooms?