Should Christians rest on the Sabbath (saturday) and rejoice on the Lords day (sunday)?

[John Davidson]

OK, why did't Paul tell them, that they as new Christians don't need to wait till next sabbath to congregate? Now if Sunday was the new official day to congregate as a church then Paul should have said "ohh no brothers and sisters we as christians don't keep the Shabbat no more and we now keep Sunday in honor of the resurrection of our Lord Jesus" but you see we don't see this argument like many Christians do say. My bible says remember the Sabbath to keep it holy, and it is written.

Read Acts of the Apostles 15, gentiles are not required to keep the law of Moses.

The reason they heard the word on the Sabbath was because the Jewish Christians were preaching that day.

It had nothing to do with a command for the gentiles to observe that day.

 

[I am Redeemed]

Read Acts of the Apostles 15, gentiles are not required to keep the law of Moses.

The reason they heard the word on the Sabbath was because the Jewish Christians were preaching that day.

It had nothing to do with a command for the gentiles to observe that day.

Brother, you are not answering......and now you are saying that we are not to keep the law??? you must have a bad interpretation because the clearest bible text that explains sin is this one: Jn 3:4 Whosoeuer committeth sinne, transgresseth also the lawe: for sinne is the transgression of the law. in other words if sin is breaking the law and we as christians are not to be sinning then we must keep the law, but not sacrifices or every thing that was a shadow of the Messiah: Romans 3:31 Doe we then make void the lawe through faith? God forbid: yea, ((we establish the Law)): Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? As christians we don't continue in sin as sin is the transgression of the law so keep the law brother: Proverbs 28:4 Those who forsake the law praise the wicked,
But such as keep the law contend with them

 

[Basil the Great]

Suffice it to say, my fellow Christian friends, that regardless of whatever all of us may now believe, there has been a major change in recent decades. Very few Christians in 2016 believe and act like our gr.gr.gr.(gr.) grandparents did back in mid-1800's and maybe even later than that. Most Christians back then believed that it was a sin to work on Sunday, unless said work was absolutely essential, probably like hospital work, police duties, harvesting crops, etc.

 

[I am Redeemed]

Read Acts of the Apostles 15, gentiles are not required to keep the law of Moses.

The law says we are not to have sex with animals: Leviticus 20:15 If a man mates with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. so from your point of view on Acts 15 gentiles are not require to keep the law so they can have sex with animals and continue to be christians? makes no sense to me bro, you must have a bad interpretation of the text: Romans 7:12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good. Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.

 

[tall73]

Whether people worship on Sunday or rest on Saturday and worship, God said to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. He never said, and no one who ever read the scriptures could say, it was a requirement for salvation. Or a condition for salvation. Otherwise, that would be a works based salvation and that's not what Jesus taught.

Well, actually, someone did say it. That someone was Ellen White, who many Adventists consider inspired:

It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: "Them that honor Me I will honor." 1 Samuel 2:30. {6T 356.4}


Satan is the sharpest critic that the world has ever known, and he works to hinder and pervert truth. He has induced men to strive to change the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Under his dictation the first day of the week has been adopted by the Christian world as the Sabbath. He has used his masterly mind to influence other men to adopt the same views that he himself entertains. But if we turn aside from the fourth commandment, so positively given by God, to adopt the inventions of Satan, voiced and acted by men under his control, we cannot be saved. We cannot with safety receive his traditions and subtleties as truth. {RH, July 6, 1897 par. 4}

 

[John Davidson]

The law says we are not to have sex with animals: Leviticus 20:15 If a man mates with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. so from your point of view on Acts 15 gentiles are not require to keep the law so they can have sex with animals and continue to be christians?
makes no sense to me bro, you must have a bad interpretation of the text:

Have you read Acts of the Apostles 15? My interpretation is fine, it clearly states that the gentiles are not required to keep the law of Moses. If you had read it you would know that one of the commands that were given to the gentiles was to abstain from fornication this would include sex with animals.

As Christians we are called to a higher law. The law of love through the Spirit. Love fulfills the law. No need to live by the letter which kills.

Romans 7:12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good. Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.

Maybe you should read those verses in context. For instance Romans 7:4 and Romans 7:6 say that we are dead to the law.

 

[Monk Brendan]

And when asked why they changed worship from Saturday to Sunday they said there authority supercedes the authority of the word of God.

Where have any of the Catholic Communion of Churches said that? I want the exact quote, plus a way to verify it, plus I must be able to find it on the Vatican website. If it isn't in there, they YOU are spreading lies about the RCC

 

[Monk Brendan]

And yet if that were true the Christian that believes it would not attend church on a Sunday.

Far from it. He/she would attend church every day, and a great many Catholics and Orthodox do so.

 

[Monk Brendan]

Whether people worship on Sunday or rest on Saturday and worship, God said to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

Here are the verses, out of Ex 20: 8-10 (KJV)
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Where in that command did God say worship? He said REST! And as there was an evening and morning sacrifice EVERY day, then the whole idea of keeping only ONE day holy is ridiculous! Or is there a day when I am allowed to be profane?

 

[Monk Brendan]

Very few Christians in 2016 believe and act like our gr.gr.gr.(gr.) grandparents did back in mid-1800's and maybe even later than that. Most Christians back then believed that it was a sin to work on Sunday, unless said work was absolutely essential, probably like hospital work, police duties, harvesting crops, etc.

Basil, when were you born? I can still remember the Blue laws, where alcohol and tobacco were not allowed to be purchased. And I can still remember traveling on the train through Indiana, and the bar/snack car had to close up until we reached Chicago. Here in Arizona, I remember working in a Circle K (convenience store), and the all the beer had to be locked up until noon.

 

[John Davidson]

God said to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

But what is the context of that statement? God made that statement to Israel under the requirements of the old covenant.

That statement was not made to the Church and is not a requirement of the new covenant which is based upon grace through faith.

 

[Basil the Great]

Basil, when were you born? I can still remember the Blue laws, where alcohol and tobacco were not allowed to be purchased. And I can still remember traveling on the train through Indiana, and the bar/snack car had to close up until we reached Chicago. Here in Arizona, I remember working in a Circle K (convenience store), and the all the beer had to be locked up until noon.

Without revealing my age, suffice it to say that I am probably older than 80+% of the posters on Christian Forums. Yes, I can also remember when alcohol could not be sold until noon on Sundays.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

But what is the context of that statement? God made that statement to Israel under the requirements of the old covenant.

That statement was not made to the Church and is not a requirement of the new covenant which is based upon grace through faith.

The Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath. The Sabbath was made to relieve us of our labors one day in the week. Jesus is our Sabbath rest of course, but if we choose to commit one day away from the world we are not in, so as to enter into the peace of the world we are part of , that's our choice.
And come the day we meet the Father and account of our life I don't think God will send us to Hell for resting on the Sabbath.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Read Acts of the Apostles 15, gentiles are not required to keep the law of Moses.

The reason they heard the word on the Sabbath was because the Jewish Christians were preaching that day.

It had nothing to do with a command for the gentiles to observe that day.

Romans 12:5, Galatians 3:28

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Far from it. He/she would attend church every day, and a great many Catholics and Orthodox do so.

Totally missed my point.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Without revealing my age, suffice it to say that I am probably older than 80+% of the posters on Christian Forums. Yes, I can also remember when alcohol could not be sold until noon on Sundays.

I remember when blue laws made alcohol sales illegal all day Sunday.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

I'm tired of this debate. Its so old. People hear what they want. Peace

And from the looks of it this isn't the first thread to challenge the Sabbath. What appears to be the point of most of them and in particular when started by a certain member, is to attack the brothers and sisters of the Seventh Day Adventist church.
What will show proof of whom that would be, the first retort that calls SDA a cult .

 

[Basil the Great]

I remember when blue laws made alcohol sales illegal all day Sunday.

We probably grew up on different areas I suppose. I can imagine that what you said would have been the case in the South especially and perhaps in rural Indiana, especially Southern Indiana?

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

We probably grew up on different areas I suppose. I can imagine that what you said would have been the case in the South especially and perhaps in rural Indiana, especially Southern Indiana?

No, east coast and well north of the MDL.

 

[W2L]

And from the looks of it this isn't the first thread to challenge the Sabbath. What appears to be the point of most of them and in particular when started by a certain member, is to attack the brothers and sisters of the Seventh Day Adventist church.
What will show proof of whom that would be, the first retort that calls SDA a cult .

Recently, on CF, I was called a cult leader without a flock, just because I don't fit someone's man made mold.