Should Christians rest on the Sabbath (saturday) and rejoice on the Lords day (sunday)?

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I once heard that all of the 10 commandments were reiterated.....but keeping the sabbath isn't mentioned.

I have to go with south bound...Christ is our sabbath.

As for worshipping on Sunday....Thats the day Christ rose. Why not?

 

[Albion]

As a Catholic, I prefer celebrating Mass on Saturday evenings.

And no one can complain about you not worshipping on the Sabbath.

 

[Tineke J]

Several comments have been made in different directions. I have to agree that indeed a storm is coming up it seems which is not glorifying to God either.
I have to say. Think its important that whichever day you choose to set apart as a Sabbath/ Rest day, do it in honour of God. To glorify Him alone.

 

[ScottA]

Jesus coming to fulfill the prophecy of Messiah and redemption was finished. The commandments were not. If so the moral code that you claim was finished on the cross would be vacated. Not something Jesus taught when asked which of them apply and he reiterated them all. Being he was the Lord from which the Sabbath decree sprang, it went without saying that the Sabbath that was made for humanity would remain in effect.
Honoring God always is understood. Being the Sabbath was made for us, that is the day of rest from the world. When we can relax and glorify God and find our peace in our faith practice without the world interfering.

You describe a different gospel. For if we were crucified and raised up with Christ (past tense) - then "It is finished" for us, and it is "no longer we who live" (nor keep the commandments, nor the sabbath), "but He who lives in us" - whom has entered into His rest...already, having overcome all things.

 

[Jim Langston]

What kind of Baptist are you that doesn't believe Christ is our Sabbath? Sure glad you're not in our Baptist church.

First of all, I'm non denominational. Second, since you can't show me anywhere in the bible where it says Jesus is the sabbath then you are teaching the philosophies of men, not God. And finally, when I was brought up in a Baptist church it was a fundamental Baptist church, meaning Sola Scriptura. I'm certainly glad I'm not in your church as well, something we agree on.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

You describe a different gospel. For if we were crucified and raised up with Christ (past tense) - then "It is finished" for us, and it is "no longer we who live" (nor keep the commandments, nor the sabbath), "but He who lives in us" - whom has entered into His rest...already, having overcome all things.

It is easily dismissed to think that an Apostle of Jesus would say the ten commands of God no longer matter nor are relevant to the believer.
Because what is being said then is that the ten commands that are to govern our sense of morality no longer apply. Let us look to see what such teachings hope to instill as removed from consideration.

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV) ​

1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

6 “You shall not murder.

7 “You shall not commit adultery.

8 “You shall not steal.

9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

I think it important at this point to make mention that Jesus ministry included other commands besides his reiterating the ten commandments as applicable to the faithful to and in him. This is one of the best sites I've found that synopsizes his teachings and commands .
What commandments did Jesus give us?

1. Repent
   1. "From that time Jesus began to preach and say, 'Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.'" (Matthew 4:17).
2. Follow Him
   1. "And He said to them, “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.” (Matthew 4:19).
3. Let your light shine
   1. "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven." (Matthew 5:16).
4. Be reconciled
   1. “Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering." (Matthew 5:23–24).
5. Don't Lust
   1. "You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY’, 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.“If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 “If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell."
      (Matthew 5:27–30).
6. Make no oaths
   1. "But I say to you, make no oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God . . . 37 But let your statement be, ‘Yes, yes’ or ‘No, no’; anything beyond these is of evil." (Matthew 5:34, 37).
7. Don't resist evil with evil
   1. "But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 “If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. 41 “Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 “Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you." (Matthew 5:39-42)
8. Love and pray for your enemies
   1. "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 “For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?" (Matthew 5:44–46)
9. Be perfect (in love)
   1. "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." (Matthew 5:48).
10. Seek God's Kingdom first
    1. “But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Matthew 6:33).
11. Don't Judge
    1. "Do not judge so that you will not be judged." (Matthew 7:1).
12. Don't give what is holy to dogs
    1. “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).
13. Treat people as you want to be treated
    1. “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12).
14. Enter (heaven) through the narrow gate
    1. “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
       14 “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:13-14).
15. Beware of false prophets
    1. "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves." (Matthew 7:15–16).
16. Follow Jesus
    1. "Follow Me, and allow the dead to bury their own dead." (Matt. 8:22).
17. Ask God to send out workers
    1. " Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. 38 “Therefore beseech the Lord of the harvest to send out workers into His harvest." (Matthew 9:37–38).
18. Don't fear those who can kill the body
    1. “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."(Matthew 10:28).
19. Come to Jesus for rest
    1. "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28).
20. Confront brothers in private first
    1. "If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother." (Matthew 18:15–17).
21. Forgive Seven times Seventy
    1. "Jesus said to him, 'I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.'" (Matthew 18:21–22).
22. Render to Caesar what is Caesar's
    1. "They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” Then He said to them, “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s." (Matthew 22:21).
23. Love God
    1. "And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'" (Matthew 22:37–38).
24. Love your Neighbor
    1. "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'" (Matthew 22:39).
25. Partake of Communion
    1. While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body. 27 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you.” (Matthew 26:26–27).
26. Keep guard against sin
    1. "Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." (Matthew 26:41).
27. Make Disciples
    1. "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." (Matthew 28:19-20).
28. Preach the Gospel
    1. "And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation." (Mark 16:15).
29. Be on guard against greed
    1. "Then He said to them, “Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed; for not even when one has an abundance does his life consist of his possessions.” (Luke 12:15).
30. Invite the poor
    1. "And He also went on to say to the one who had invited Him, “When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, otherwise they may also invite you in return and that will be your repayment. 13 “But when you give a reception, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, 14 and you will be blessed, since they do not have the means to repay you; for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous." (Luke 14:12–14).
31. Love one another
    1. "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another." (John 13:34).
    2. "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you." (John 15:12).
    3. "This I command you, that you love one another." (John 15:17).

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

First of all, I'm non denominational. Second, since you can't show me anywhere in the bible where it says Jesus is the sabbath then you are teaching the philosophies of men, not God. And finally, when I was brought up in a Baptist church it was a fundamental Baptist church, meaning Sola Scriptura. I'm certainly glad I'm not in your church as well, something we agree on.

I think where their anger becomes even more stoked is that your faith column on the profile says, Baptist. Which is a denomination.
I've been attacked before because I have "Nazarene" on mine. I'm in relationship with Jesus of Nazareth and that is why I use that identifier.
I'd suggest we don't meet hate with hate but rather pray for a brother that is so very obviously hurting.

 

[DoubtfulSalvation]

Yes, and we need to sacrifice animals and murder babies belonging to pagan nations (We can do this by simply supporting abortion here at home, because we are a pagan nation. Remember it sends all the babies to heaven, so, just like the old testament it's totally justified). How people miss these stone cold biblical truths are beyond me. Good luck with other people who will talk about "rightly" dividing the word of truth, as if they're God or something.

 

[ScottA]

It is easily dismissed to think that an Apostle of Jesus would say the ten commands of God no longer matter nor are relevant to the believer.

No one is dismissing anything. You missed it from Christ, and now you have missed it from me:

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." Matthew 5:17

...and now you deny that He has fulfilled all He came to fulfill and said was "finished."

 

[Landon Caeli]

First of all, I'm non denominational. Second, since you can't show me anywhere in the bible where it says Jesus is the sabbath then you are teaching the philosophies of men, not God. And finally, when I was brought up in a Baptist church it was a fundamental Baptist church, meaning Sola Scriptura. I'm certainly glad I'm not in your church as well, something we agree on.

I don't mean this in a literal way, or to sound condescending, but it amazes me how arrows fly in and out from every direction when so many walls are built up... And so we have disorder.

...Tell me which is better, to be by the book or to be by the spirit.

 

[Jim Langston]

I think where their anger becomes even more stoked is that your faith column on the profile says, Baptist. Which is a denomination.
I've been attacked before because I have "Nazarene" on mine. I'm in relationship with Jesus of Nazareth and that is why I use that identifier.
I'd suggest we don't meet hate with hate but rather pray for a brother that is so very obviously hurting.

I actually believe the Baptist faith comes fairly close to the truth. I know there are seventh day baptists and I truely believe if I had to pin down a religion other than non denominatiomal it would be that.

Thank you for correcting me on my reply. It is an issue I have trouble with and I have to learn how to respond. I had started a thread about God answering prayers and it was going well before people started claiming that it wasn't God answering the prayers. I was getting irritated at people coming close to blaspheming the holy spirit then claiming saying something from the holy spirit was from the devil wasn't blasphemy. I got so irritated I had the mods close the thread.

 

[DoubtfulSalvation]

I don't mean this in a literal way, or to sound condescending, but it amazes me how arrows fly in and out from every direction when so many walls are built up... And so we have disorder.

...Tell me which is better, to be by the book or to be by the spirit.

It could be the evil spirits being brought onto this forum by your demonic GIF signature. Guess your're one of those "saved" types that indulges in programs that make their foundations based around fornication, lewdness, drunkenness and homosexuality. But, by all means, go ahead and point fingers at everyone else.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

No one is dismissing anything. You missed it from Christ, and now you have missed it from me:

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." Matthew 5:17

...and now you deny that He has fulfilled all He came to fulfill and said was "finished."

I don't deny a thing. You don't understand and you argue against what Jesus himself said. He fulfilled the law. He was the embodiment of the law. If Jesus had wanted to say the law is abolished Jesus had the power and the ability to say the law is abolished.
He did not say that.
He said this instead. “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17-18).

Jesus finished the sacrificial law. His sacrifice upon the cross as the perfect unblemished and final lamb placed on the sin altar.
The moral law is still in effect. And the civil law of God pertains to the Jews alone.
What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

 

[Landon Caeli]

It could be the evil spirits being brought onto this forum by your demonic GIF signature. Guess your're one of those "saved" types that indulges in programs that make their foundations based around fornication, lewdness, drunkenness and homosexuality. But, by all means, go ahead and point fingers at everyone else.

Lol... I was just sympathizing with your Church and you shot me between the eyes with that arrow of yours.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Please don't instigate flames.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Oh my, you are also a very presumptuous fellow. Pray tell, what Church are you talking about? How do you know what I belong to? Nevertheless, what I said originally still stands as being completely valid, logical and impossible to dispute. I did find your deflection amusing. Just judging by visual evidence alone it would appear that it could be something that you are very well versed in. Though, I admit that i could be wrong. I'm not one to make assumptions. Good luck with that.

Your profile states you are Baptist right? And Baptists attend Sunday meetings?

 

[ScottA]

I don't deny a thing. You don't understand and you argue against what Jesus himself said. He fulfilled the law. He was the embodiment of the law. If Jesus had wanted to say the law is abolished Jesus had the power and the ability to say the law is abolished.
He did not say that.
He said this instead. “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17-18).

Jesus finished the sacrificial law. His sacrifice upon the cross as the perfect unblemished and final lamb placed on the sin altar.
The moral law is still in effect. And the civil law of God pertains to the Jews alone.
What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

You are now contradicting what you said before:

Jesus coming to fulfill the prophecy of Messiah and redemption was finished. The commandments were not.

Again...no one is saying that the law is "abolished."

If the law is fulfilled, it is not abolished, it is fulfilled. But being fulfilled, means that if we are in Christ Jesus, we have met all the requirements of the law already.

Those who are in Christ, therefore, have no need to face the law and judgement again - we are sealed. Nor could we break the law, for we too, being the body of Christ...are also the embodiment of the law - the law is fulfilled in us:

"For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. Romans 8:3-5

 

[Jim Langston]

Your profile states you are Baptist right? And Baptists attend Sunday meetings?

Except for seventh day Baptists. Yeah, that's a thing.

 

[South Bound]

First of all, I'm non denominational.

Ah, so then you lied in in your profile when you say you're Baptist. Thanks for clearing that up.

Second, since you can't show me anywhere in the bible where it says Jesus is the sabbath then you are teaching the philosophies of men, not God.

Actually, the four verses I provided are the Word of God. It's dishonest of you to continue to claim I have shown no evidence when I provided four verses for you, which you have chosen to ignore because they don't fit your heretical beliefs.