The Reason Why Job Suffered?

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Parts of the BOOKS (the Bible is a collection of Books, not a single book) were written by prophets who were divinely inspired. God did not write these books, and there is a difference between inspiration and narration. To confuse the two is grave indeed, and has empowered vultures control over masses falsely. Christ himself rebuked this practice on numerous occasions.

Do you know that the word of Heaven before it was translated was "ouranos"? Uranus is the god the sky. Do you know where the name Jupiter comes from? "Deus Pater", or "Sky Father", as well in certain texts & religions. Do you know what "Amen" means? Amen is the Egyptian God of Truth. Have you heard of Aman-Jupiter? Look it up.

Jesus lived during the pagan roman times, and it was stripped later from the texts by using obscure translations.

The book of Job was canonized in a compilation of books by groups of men. This is not a question, this is an historical fact; choosing to believe this does not compromise your faith, but it is supremely blasphemous to claim that the men who compiled the different books into what is known as "The Bible" were God.

I will argue nothing else about this, but I will say that trauma specifically needs to be treated & recognized.

Having faith in God wasn't going to save Job, and this folklore is not something to base your faith on. The society he belonged to was not going to help him. Additionally, neither was God; and after God had murdered innocent women & children it was not until Job was so beat down by the people around him and the excruciating withdrawal of love in life with paralyzing grief that he screamed and argued and fought and annoyed God that God decided to help him.

No. You do not base your faith in God around this story. If anything, the story stands to teach us to NOT have faith in God but rather to annoy Him until He fixes what is broken.

Our spirits, our family, our lives: They mean something. Ripping everything away from someone has been known to even physically cause heart attacks and deform the mind & heart.

What happened to Job was a very poor folklore to illustrate the need to love and heal people when they have lost what they love. There is nothing divine or benign about the tale of "God" in this story. God is not like this.
Also , the story of job isnt to teach us to annoy God till he fixes what's broken..simply put in this world..anything can happen, no one lives forever..and our family and friends and all the connections we make do mean something to us but things happen. They just do...and when they happen what will you do? I think Job just teaches us to stick close to God in the face of adversity as much as possible. Just my opinion.
 
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Job suffered because... just because.

There is a bit of insight in the bible about a wager... but he didn't warrant suffering with his own works, necessarily.

I don't think the book of Job is helpful for people suffering because it is an unrelatable comparison.

Many pepole who go through horrible times never had millions of dollars in wealth like Job. They dont have 10+ children and a wife/husband. And, they aren't as righteous as Job is described. He had it taken all away, but Job also got it all back. You can't compare Job to a homeless person who has been unemployed years seeking God, because they are fundamentally different - concretely.
I agree somewhat, its supposed to be a guideline imo..but for that homeless man..lazarus( the beggar) would be a better comparison..some get their rewards here on earth.....others in heaven..the bible does say to store for yourselves rewards I heaven.
 
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Job never cursed God. He wished for an intercessor who could plead his case with the God.


God said to Job, paraphrased....
"When you (Job) can do all these things, I (God) will agree with you that your own Right hand can save you."

Job believed that all the righteous things that he did in service to God and his family, would save him and his children. God was pleased with the things that Job did, as God Himself said that Job was righteous.

Job realizes it isn't enough to do things, even righteous Godly things, only the sovereign God's mercy and grace could do that.
Job repented and then everything was restored to him. God made him a priest to offer sin offerings for his friends.
I have a question...first I want to say I agree with your well thought out response. I do think its necessary to repent perhaps for believing/ attributing your works, even if they may be godly to your well being as God is in control of that...but how di we develop trust if.. Despite all this, prayer and attending services ECT from a godly motive is still wrong...aren't we supposed to expect God to follow through on his promises.. He does promise to protect us...ao I dont get that..thatbis throwing me for a loop.
 
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Christians routinely go thru losing everything in the process of sanctification. Who hasn't spiritually lost everything for Christ. Boldness doesn't come from being a wimp it comes from learning meekness
What do you mean by wimp?
 
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I don't think there's anyone on this board that hasn't/isn't suffering..and by that I mean ALONE...because suffering is not a shared thing! Walking a mile in anyone's moccasins isn't possible. Can you know or help with the pain of hospice care of loved ones? Endurance is the bottom line because we have no other choice. When I see good christians suffering then cursing God because they are dying doesn't make this discussion any easier either. But that alot of Christians on here are saying that they're committing the unforgivable sin for doing so is hogwash.We all fight our own battles however we can
I agree , I love your attitude :)
 
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No, I agree with this. Endurance is good, and absolutely cursing God is sometimes the only healthy outlet many have.

Telling people to have faith that God will heal a situation that is actually up to us to collectively confront & heal together, to compensate and fight together, only propagates our hatred for God.

How long will a spiritual loss go on if we do not band together? And then to say that the lesson of this fable is to just endure and have faith?

No. We have to fight, conversate, commune, and compensate, come together. This can be dangerous because there are sociopaths who create or fabricate problems in order to milk compensations and injustice in the name of justice.

However, we still have to work hard to get to the bottom of right & wrong, and not just tell each other to endure, move on, and let time do its work.

Time is a more ethereal realm of possibility; without intention & focus, we cannot heal spiritually and we must do it together; if we do not fight, we will continue to believe God doesn't care and is ignoring us when we learn that years have passed and nothing was ever challenged or fixed. This will make you feel like God actually hates you.
I agree with this BC after I left the church..i was totally alone..i struggled and still do with the thought god doesn't like me or I'm just cursed ... Leading to lots of panic attacks and depression...so I get this... But recently i met some good Christians online that's helping me work through my pain...so I agree as Christians we have to come together to help the broken hearted lest their faith become ship wrecked.
 
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Elihu defended Job from false accusations of iniquity and of deserving to suffer because he had in some way offended God. The others called Job a liar who was hiding something that he had done. In response Job had spoken as if God indeed had found fault with him and argued that if such was the case it was an injustice because he was innocent of wrongdoing. The friendly advice was that he change that viewpoint.

Elihu had a problem with the fact that, "He was also angry with the three friends, because they had found no way to refute Job, and yet had condemned him." (Job 32:3)
Job had made his apology (defense), he had maintained his innocence and as God had said initially he was blameless, upright, did good and shunned evil. Several points worth noting:

I made a covenant with my eyes
not to look lustfully at a young woman. (Job 31:1)

let God weigh me in honest scales
and he will know that I am blameless (Job 31:6)

If my heart has been enticed by a woman,
or if I have lurked at my neighbor’s door, (Job 31:9)

If I have denied justice to any of my servants,
whether male or female, (Job 31:13)

If I have denied the desires of the poor
or let the eyes of the widow grow weary (Job 31:16)

If I have put my trust in gold
or said to pure gold, ‘You are my security, (Job 31:24)
There are other points, this is just a sampling of the argument (apology) of Job answering his friends charge that he was being punished. Job had asked what he had done, and if he had done something why doesn't he forgive me. He lamented that there was no advocate, no place to meet God in court and worried that even if there were he wouldn't be able to defend himself adequately.

He talks a lot about what he is going to say and then doesn't say much. Starting about Job 36:27, I think he is describing the approaching storm; rain, lighting, wind, thunder:

At this my heart pounds
and leaps from its place.
Listen! Listen to the roar of his voice,
to the rumbling that comes from his mouth. (Job 37:1,2)​

Instead of preaching at this point he is getting a little scared, I mean I know I would be. I love this line, now instead of preaching he almost seems to be imploring Job:

Tell us what we should say to him;
we cannot draw up our case because of our darkness. (Job 37:19)
These men knew Job was righteous. That wasn't the problem, or maybe it was part of the problem. This is what had Elihu so incensed:

But Elihu son of Barakel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, became very angry with Job for justifying himself rather than God. (Job 32:2)
They just didn't know why, it is revealed to a great extent in the New Testament:

Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him. (James 1:12)

Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matt. 5:11,12)​

Job didn't know that God's people are sometimes called to prove their faithfulness. He couldn't have possibly known that his problems were due to God bragging on him. At least the New Testament warns us that we could be on display, the persecution of the early church being a prime example.

We shouldn't judge these men too harshly, they didn't really know what was going on. I still think the key to the whole thing is summed up in three words, 'My man Job'.

Grace and peace,
Mark
 
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Elihu had a problem with the fact that, "He was also angry with the three friends, because they had found no way to refute Job, and yet had condemned him." (Job 32:3)
Job had made his apology (defense), he had maintained his innocence and as God had said initially he was blameless, upright, did good and shunned evil. Several points worth noting:

I made a covenant with my eyes
not to look lustfully at a young woman. (Job 31:1)

let God weigh me in honest scales
and he will know that I am blameless (Job 31:6)

If my heart has been enticed by a woman,
or if I have lurked at my neighbor’s door, (Job 31:9)

If I have denied justice to any of my servants,
whether male or female, (Job 31:13)

If I have denied the desires of the poor
or let the eyes of the widow grow weary (Job 31:16)

If I have put my trust in gold
or said to pure gold, ‘You are my security, (Job 31:24)
There are other points, this is just a sampling of the argument (apology) of Job answering his friends charge that he was being punished. Job had asked what he had done, and if he had done something why doesn't he forgive me. He lamented that there was no advocate, no place to meet God in court and worried that even if there were he wouldn't be able to defend himself adequately.

He talks a lot about what he is going to say and then doesn't say much. Starting about Job 36:27, I think he is describing the approaching storm; rain, lighting, wind, thunder:

At this my heart pounds
and leaps from its place.
Listen! Listen to the roar of his voice,
to the rumbling that comes from his mouth. (Job 37:1,2)​

Instead of preaching at this point he is getting a little scared, I mean I know I would be. I love this line, now instead of preaching he almost seems to be imploring Job:

Tell us what we should say to him;
we cannot draw up our case because of our darkness. (Job 37:19)
These men knew Job was righteous. That wasn't the problem, or maybe it was part of the problem. This is what had Elihu so incensed:

But Elihu son of Barakel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, became very angry with Job for justifying himself rather than God. (Job 32:2)
They just didn't know why, it is revealed to a great extent in the New Testament:

Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him. (James 1:12)

Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matt. 5:11,12)​

Job didn't know that God's people are sometimes called to prove their faithfulness. He couldn't have possibly known that his problems were due to God bragging on him. At least the New Testament warns us that we could be on display, the persecution of the early church being a prime example.

We shouldn't judge these men too harshly, they didn't really know what was going on. I still think the key to the whole thing is summed up in three words, 'My man Job'.

Grace and peace,
Mark
That is so lovely , I love this post. Also, what about those who suffer for no reason or fault of their own...like people born blind and deaf or those born into unfair situations like a brothel in india or starvation in Africa ....does god think the same about them?
 
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I agree somewhat, its supposed to be a guideline imo..but for that homeless man..lazarus( the beggar) would be a better comparison..some get their rewards here on earth.....others in heaven..the bible does say to store for yourselves rewards I heaven.

Yes, just because there is an aspect of humanity to learn from (suffering) doesn't mean that is the point of the allegory. Lazerus, or even Joseph, would be a better story to help inspire people in suffering situations.
 
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Yes, just because there is an aspect of humanity to learn from (suffering) doesn't mean that is the point of the allegory. Lazerus, or even Joseph, would be a better story to help inspire people in suffering situations.
Why are you guys so bitter with jobs story? Do you realize there are some people who have actually lived an experience similar to Job? I read in a magazine where a man lost his family in a car crash... His wife and kids.... So this kinda stuff happens and a story like job is probably the hope they need to keep going. I dont think its a poor lesson but a great one..because any second, events can take a turn for the worst and that's just life...and from somewhere were gonna have to find the will to survive and at that point... The book of Job is it.
 
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Why are you guys so bitter with jobs story? Do you realize there are some people who have actually lived an experience similar to Job? I read in a magazine where a man lost his family in a car crash... His wife and kids.... So this kinda stuff happens and a story like job is probably the hope they need to keep going. I dont think its a poor lesson but a great one..because any second, events can take a turn for the worst and that's just life...and from somewhere were gonna have to find the will to survive and at that point... The book of Job is it.

It's not bitterness. His story is just atypical on the whole.

There aren't many millionaire Christians who would stand for God 100% even when their "hedge" is broken. In that sense on it's own, Job is not a normal example.

He also had 10 kids, and a wife. That isn't atypical, but for a multi-millionaire to have ten kids is somewhat culturally abnormal.

The fact that Job was already righteous, and didnt "sin" against God to get his circumstances is also atypical. This is why his friends were so important in the exchange; "clearly," Job must have some unrepentant sin.

The fact that Job has real friends who are god-fearing as a multimillionaire is on its own.

To keep in perspective, Job had tens of thousands of livestock. A cow sells for around $2500; 12,000 × 2500 = $30,000,000 worth today. We aren't talking about a guy with a nice $450,000 dream house, a couple of kids and a nice portfolio. Job was wealthy. And, Job was God fearing. What did Christ say about a rich man and a camel? Not impossible, just easier to pass through...

Then, we get to Jobs circumstances which are not necessarily atypical, but when you consider the rest it is. People lose their children, spupses and entire families who are already destitute and in crises of faith.

It isn't comforting to hear, "Well, remember Job - (and his millions and blessing's of kids and how he got it all back!) What do the regular people "get back?" Moderate destitution?

The job story wasn't to comfort people; I think it was an intelligence briefing for us and Job. It is curious the chapter just ends the way it does. Nevertheless, it shows us insight on why some suffer.... juse because.

That isn't comfort or hope for a better future. It is just intelligence.
 
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unisys said:
The story, first of all, is indeed a Jewish folklore with a moral to its story; it is not to be taken literally nor as a depiction of the all-pervading mechanics of justice & reality. It did, however, very dramatically exemplify a truly benign fact.

That fact is that when bad things happen to someone, and the devil here represents a false accuser or injustice in general—that it doesn't mean the individual did something to provoke it.

miknik said:
Do you agree that there even is a devil?

unisys said:
I think it is clear this is supposed to be an exaggerated way to clearly depict certain ideas, though there are many holes in the story including the notion that God explains himself to be "all knowing" and then exemplifies himself as too stupid or unfair to understand whether Job did love Him or not and needed to test him.

You are left wondering how God could not foresee that the devil's accusation was wrong, if He indeed is all-knowing; or, you the alternative assumption about God here is that He allows & even promulgates appalling injustices to teach lessons to everyone & brag about His supreme intelligence.

miknik said:
Please speak for yourself and your insights and do not speak or imply "insights" into what I assume or have said...they are not my words...they are yours.

unisys said:
I think Christ does a better job at depicting God, and the difference as well is that Christ was a real person while Job was a book canonized simply for its genre.

This story is just another example of the Cabalistic notion that the devil is there to strengthen us morally through resistance to what we actually deserve or what is actually good for us. That is, the devil is seen in the Cabala as a tempter whose purpose is similar to water-resistance or weight-lifting; without the devil, you will not gain emotional strength.

miknik said:
Therefore self professing self and NOT professing what is actually good for us. That being the GIFT of GOD, who is CHRIST JESUS

unisys said:
Finally, the very albeit poor exemplification of the story fully illustrates that hatred toward God is often the result of trauma; Job was traumatized. Even if Job had cursed God (and by many people's definition, he in fact did), Christ does a better job at explaining to humanity that how an individual handles supreme trauma can mimic the appearance of unrighteousness.

miknik said:
HE does? What did HE say apart from REMAIN IN ME?

unisys said:
The two terms that come to mind for me for the purpose of this tale are hubris & akrasia. Akrasia is a weakness of will where one acts against their better judgment;

miknik said:
Yes. That has already been known to man to be the problem with man

unisys said:
even as God gave in to the devil's temptation (and I am not above criticizing the mechanics of this story; He did, but it is a tale about God so it wasn't really God), so too was Job's will weakened & affected during his trauma. This is normal for people, especially sufferers of PTSD.

Really, this is not about teaching people to "handle suffering better" and "trust God's way"

miknik said:
Already falsely accusing/blaming/cursing GOD and attributing to what should be attributed to satan, to GOD...it isn't GOD'S WAY, HE simply removed the hedge to show satan's way...you just don't recognize that

unisys said:
because truthfully this story is supreme injustice and hatred; it does not exemplify God in truth. But for the purpose of explaining some primitive psychological & religious philosophy, this story does use "God vs Devil"

miknik said:
As if there is some sort of competition that GOD will somehow lose? Satan has NO POWER over those who are IN, IN, IN CHRIST JESUS...satan can not cast out GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT...he can accuse, but he can't do anything to those who belong to GOD and are IN THE SON

unisys said:
with extreme situations just to REALLY illustrate the severity of the injustice & trauma, and the severity of Job's righteousness by contrast.

miknik said:
Job's righteousness? Job will testify that he has no self-professed righteousness apart from THE RIGHTEOUSNESS which is of GOD and from GOD

unisys said:
Moving on, the other term "hubris", at least in Aristotle's definition, better described what is referred to as "victim blaming".

When one of us is traumatized by injustice, the trauma isn't just our own; there is a collective trauma. When people witness injustice & traumatic events in another person's life, they often try to rationalize & justify it in order to avoid the traumatic realization that they too could be next.

There is a pathological disease of individuals who look at another person's misfortune and assume that they must have done something to achieve it.

But don't focus too much on the details, because this is a folklore. You can carve out your own life and experience miracles & justice.

In this story, God is absent for quite some time to illustrate how society must stop oppressing the poor.

The bottom line is that we must collectively overcome the destructive forces of nature and injustice.

miknik said:
Collectively? With those IN CHRIST and those outside of CHRIST?
Who should teach who?

unisys said:
This is an illustrative story, not reality.

Now, again, many people victim blame in order to avoid the trauma themselves; it is easier for people enjoying privilege & life to look upon another's misfortune and say, "You must have done something to deserve this! Yes! There is no way this could happen to me! I must be safe!!!!!" When we do not overcome injustice and poverty collectively, we allow evil to reign.

miknik said:
Who does that? Who, when one is faced with suffering, points their finger and says there must have been something you did? That already is misrepresenting GOD

unisys said:
People with malicious intentions can then exploit and victim blame if Aristotle's definition of hubris is not contained; that is, hubris will destroy God in a society.

The story was about our need as people to collectively join forces and overcome disaster and grief together instead of allowing others to drag on in trauma until literally God Himself has to come down off a freaking cloud to rebuke the cowardice & selfishness of hubris.

miknik said:
This last above sentence was one reason why I felt it was necessary NOT to inundate the thread by offering to you anything more than "I don't agree"


Miknik, you've littered an entire thread with dozens upon dozens of posts trying to shove your affinity to the notion that God is unreachably higher & mysterious while we are selfish beings who need to submit and learn to transcend trauma.
miknik said:
We need to submit would have been sufficient.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say that I am repulsed by this behavior, and I am moreover confused why you continue to desperately cling to something you yourself don't even believe.

miknik said:
Yes. It is better to speak of and for yourself only.

You don't have to be right. The fact of the matter is that this story isn't anymore a depiction of reality than the morals in Little Red riding hood. Trying to force us into believing this is truly a divine incident is ridiculous, especially considering the Leviathan is a dragon which we know does not exist although this "God" character gave pages of detailed description about it.

If we are to take any positive lesson from such a famous book, it is to pull together and quit assuming that misfortunate is always deserved, and that trauma & grief must be comforted and healed together rather than telling someone to "deal with it because God's logic is higher than yours".

miknik said:
who said that? that we have to "deal with it because GOD'S logic is higher than ours"? Are you again, "speaking for everyone?"
You are sounding precisely like the people in this story who accused Job, and moreover God did not rebuke Job as a lesson for you to now run around pretending to be God. Even if this story was a perfect reality, you do not go around telling people "God's logic is higher than yours so give glory!"
miknik said:
Again, ALL I said, was GOD removed the HEDGE. That should have been sufficient for all men to draw the correct logic. However, you didn't...And now you try to pass it off on me that I don't know the difference between GOD and this catastrophe being that simply GOD "let go" for a season?What did you think HE meant when HE said, once again I will shake both the heavens and the earth to signify what can be removed?

First and foremost, God didn't even rebuke Job's trauma until he was ready to heal it. Unless you're in the business of providing millions of dollars to victims, I am unsure why you are running around preaching God's response as a lesson to people. In the story God was able to amusingly confront Job's trauma purely because God had at that moment the power and request from Job to do this.

miknik said:
Oh, is it money that we should look to then as the source of all healing?
You are not God, and you are not our source of deliverance, so preaching about God's response to Job's trauma "as a lesson" is absurd.
miknik said:
Oh, I know I'm not

Again, when you have the means & power and will to cure a person of their suffering and losses, then you can begin commenting on how they should feel & respond in their distress. Until then what you are actually offering is very dangerous spiritually.
I have attached your initial post which I have now responded to.
 
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It's not bitterness. His story is just atypical on the whole.

There aren't many millionaire Christians who would stand for God 100% even when their "hedge" is broken. In that sense on it's own, Job is not a normal example.

He also had 10 kids, and a wife. That isn't atypical, but for a multi-millionaire to have ten kids is somewhat culturally abnormal.

The fact that Job was already righteous, and didnt "sin" against God to get his circumstances is also atypical. This is why his friends were so important in the exchange; "clearly," Job must have some unrepentant sin.

The fact that Job has real friends who are god-fearing as a multimillionaire is on its own.

To keep in perspective, Job had tens of thousands of livestock. A cow sells for around $2500; 12,000 × 2500 = $30,000,000 worth today. We aren't talking about a guy with a nice $450,000 dream house, a couple of kids and a nice portfolio. Job was wealthy. And, Job was God fearing. What did Christ say about a rich man and a camel? Not impossible, just easier to pass through...

Then, we get to Jobs circumstances which are not necessarily atypical, but when you consider the rest it is. People lose their children, spupses and entire families who are already destitute and in crises of faith.

It isn't comforting to hear, "Well, remember Job - (and his millions and blessing's of kids and how he got it all back!) What do the regular people "get back?" Moderate destitution?

The job story wasn't to comfort people; I think it was an intelligence briefing for us and Job. It is curious the chapter just ends the way it does. Nevertheless, it shows us insight on why some suffer.... juse because.

That isn't comfort or hope for a better future. It is just intelligence.
That is a misrepresentation of GOD. HE doesn't remove HIS "hedge" individually...that is the point of the prophetic use and message of Job...
HE will...one day, remove the HEDGE/no longer HOLD BACK (what HE has by HIS EVERYDAY GRACE upon ALL MEN "held back" so that none were totally destroyed)...and when HE who holds all things back is "TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY" (Temporarily) both will enter into this season of Job...

Blessed the one who waits and trusts in HIM (1335 days) and keeps HIS GARMENT with him, will be saved...
 
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That is a misrepresentation of GOD. HE doesn't remove HIS "hedge" individually...that is the point of the prophetic use and message of Job...
HE will...one day, remove the HEDGE/no longer HOLD BACK (what HE has by HIS EVERYDAY GRACE upon ALL MEN "held back" so that none were totally destroyed)...and when HE who holds all things back is "TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY" (Temporarily) both will enter into this season of Job...

Blessed the one who waits and trusts in HIM (1335 days) and keeps HIS GARMENT with him, will be saved...

I didn't say it would be on an individual basis, and yet it was, I am talking generally. That is why it is a story of reconnoitering how the enemy tries to destroy. It was intel.

But, Job doesn't boost morale for regular persons like, say, Joseph or Peter would. It is an atypical story to highlight intelligence insights.

It is a sprirtual briefing.
 
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That is so lovely , I love this post. Also, what about those who suffer for no reason or fault of their own...like people born blind and deaf or those born into unfair situations like a brothel in india or starvation in Africa ....does god think the same about them?
There are people who suffer for no fault of their own but we don't know if it's the same as Job. Paul had a thorn in his flesh because of the revelations he received, that's not the same as children star in in Sudan...or is it?
 
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Which is it?

Did job sin and blame GOD or didn't he?


My post made it clear he did sin and blame God. This was him cursing God to his face.
 
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There aren't many millionaire Christians who would stand for God 100% even when their "hedge" is broken. In that sense on it's own, Job is not a normal example.

Except that isn't not what happened at all. Job did turn against God which is the sin Job eventually repented of. Has anyone even read the book?
 
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