Heaven and Hell

[Noxot]

an angel told me that the sun divided himself into the stars and that is why Christ brought division.

 

[Noxot]

Well if that were true that the night reveals a greater truth than the "light" that would explain why not all men bring their works into the LIGHT to discern what is wrought in God from what isn't

That's the verdict sir, a LIGHT has come into the world and God has given men the light of the knowledge of His Glory in the face if Jesus Christ

So why are you looking to Angels who would only tell you we are servants with those who hold to the testimony of JESUS.

you are mean lol.

 

[miknik5]

Which people are most qualified to tell you a God exists and why?

Those who hold to the testimony of Jesus
For the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy

Every word of God spoken in hidden and lower signs spoke of and pointed to Christ

 

[Noxot]

you might not have noticed but the stars and the sun are the same thing. sure they are different but they are also the same.

 

[bhsmte]

Those who hold to the testimony of Jesus
For the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy

Every word of God spoken in hidden and lower signs spoke of and pointed to Christ

In other words, those who you agree with.

 

[bhsmte]

an angel told me that the sun divided himself into the stars and that is why Christ brought division.

How did the angel tell you that?

 

[miknik5]

you might not have noticed but the stars and the sun are the same thing. sure they are different but they are also the same.

The sun and the stars are created things

Now if you are referring to the "stars" which the Son of God has authority over and "holds in His hands as He walks amongst the lamps rands" well that's another thing completely

And if other "stars" we're to come bringing another gospel do not accept them. They are not the "stars" of God

 

[Noxot]

How did the angel tell you that?

for the most part we are always around spirits and they influence us. I happen to be sensitive to understanding that such occurs. it took a while in paying attention. my way to understand the bible is to not think or understand it and wait for God to teach me. the moon reflects the light of the sun. i am Gods moons and the stars shine too.

 

[Noxot]

The sun and the stars are created things

Now if you are referring to the "stars" which the Son of God has authority over well that's another thing completely

And if these "stars" come bringing another gospel do not accept them. They are not the "stars" of God

I hope you can understand that evil spirits have had 2000 years to warp Christianity into a demented angel of light. I know you think swedenborg was evil but 250~ years ago he said that hell was full of Christians. when I was a child I saw a man and he was holy but one day he was warped by evil spirits and he had a vision of some poor men falling into hell and he took delight in it and he helped to push them in but then Jesus appeared and saved them. this vision that i read about as a spiritual babe was recorded by Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite who was one of my first teachers.

 

[miknik5]

for the most part we are always around spirits and they influence us. I happen to be sensitive to understanding that such occurs. it took a while in paying attention. my way to understand the bible is to not think or understand it and wait for God to teach me. the moon reflects the light of the sun. i am Gods moons and the stars shine too.

Which in the end will be removed (that is the sun and the moon) and there will only be ONE who will be the only REFLECTION OF THE GLOEY OF GOD (revelation 21)

 

[miknik5]

I hope you can understand that evil spirits have had 2000 years to warp Christianity into a demented angel of light. I know you think swedenborg was evil but 250~ years ago he said that hell was full of Christians. when I was a child I saw a man and he was holy but one day he was warped by evil spirits and he had a vision of some poor men falling into hell and he took delight in it and he helped to push them in but then Jesus appeared and saved them. this vision that i read about as a spiritual babe was recorded by Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite who was one of my first teachers.

Thank God for the Spirit of Truth who leads us to all Truth or the lack of or distortion in The Truth

Christ accomplished everything for man

Mans work is to remain in HIM and Not entertain the voices of other spirits telling us what GOD has said by THE WORD made flesh fur our salvation

That was the age old lie from the age old liar from the beginning:

Hey?! Did GOD reaaaallllly say?

Yes

And all Gods Word and promises are found in His Son

There reeaaaalllly is no reason for any man to go out to other spirits/voices who whisper and mutter everything and anything but the Truth/Testimny of Jesus

I suggest you read Isaiah 8

 

[miknik5]

Bind up the TESTIMONY amongst my disciples
And when they tell you to seek spirits should not a people consult their GOD?

To the dead(spirits) for the Living One?

If they speak Not according to THE WORD it is because there is no LIGHT there in

When troubles come they will look up curse their God and their King and be cast into utter darkness

 

[Noxot]

I suggest you having more faith than the past saints. I know very well how glorious the prophets are and they do not at all go against the Lord and so why you, a human being, would speak ill of good angels is beyond me. they work day and night to serve Jesus and yet you want to act like you do more work then they!

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Those who hold to the testimony of Jesus

Why not those that hold to the testimony of Vishnu?

 

[miknik5]

Why not those that hold to the testimony of Vishnu?

Try it

 

[miknik5]

I suggest you having more faith than the past saints. I know very well how glorious the prophets are and they do not at all go against the Lord and so why you, a human being, would speak ill of good angels is beyond me. they work day and night to serve Jesus and yet you want to act like you do more work then they!

only when you can tell me who it is that makes men holy?

And how evil/darkness can exist when The LIGHT has come and done for a man whst he can not do for himself?

If you could answer that for me you can see the logic in your post regarding that "holy man" you saw filled with evil spirits as a contradiction to the truth that if The Strong Man comes than the "house" should be at rest. Since the Strong Man has come

By the way?
God does not recycle souls

 

[SteveB28]

actually i am finding out that my reality and spiritual experience is consistent with a few things. one is the childishness and the lack of true spiritual experience of God within common placed religion be they hindu, christian, mulsim, ect. two is that those who really do have some measure of real spiritual experience tend to understand a underpinning commonality to religious experience.

the fact of the matter is that most atheist and religious folk are caught up in the exoteric images of religion rather than in the esoteric reality of God. things only look divided on outer levels but God is the unifying reality that gives birth to multiplicity. I don't say this by book knowledge alone, I say this due to the spiritual experiences that I and others have had. i have found God in slipknot music just as much as I have in music and that is because my soul is the temple of God.

You seem to be implying that, regardless of the religion, people who believe are in contact with the same god?

And yet, you give very specific examples of the manner in which you were brought to your belief. And those examples surely could not apply to other religions.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Try it

I've mentioned several times that I was a Christian. And now from my standpoint, all religious testimony is the same.

 

[Noxot]

You seem to be implying that, regardless of the religion, people who believe are in contact with the same god?

And yet, you give very specific examples of the manner in which you were brought to your belief. And those examples surely could not apply to other religions.

I see no problem with knowing that God works through whatever we happen to be

 

[SteveB28]

I see no problem with knowing that God works through whatever we happen to be

And yet, your commandments make it very clear that you are to worship no other forms of God?