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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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Well, I don't have to put Noah in New Jersey, have Adam & Eve speaking English, or sending flood water to Neptune, or utilize 'creation science', to believe in God.
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And I don't have to deny God created the earth Himself, wonder how He orchestrated the breakup of Pangaea because tectonic plates got in the way, or wonder how three men survived an overheated furnace.
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I'm not denying he created the earth. I just don't view the creation story a literal, as probably the majority of Christians today do not.
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Maybe he should ask God for help in understanding, instead of stopping just short of ridicule, not answering questions as they were asked, or being so quick to deny things?
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You still don't understand what I'm getting at. You say I ignore parts of the bible, and that would be a no, I view them as not meant to be literal. Then you say you use the only authorized bible. I disagree. Your authorized bible not only excludes 7 original books, the Gospels don't match those of the oldest known bible in existence, the Codex Sinaiticus.
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Authorized by the king of England???----Nobody but God authorizes the bible through His Holy Spirit. The original Hebrew is what is inspired, the translations are the work of human knowledge at the time of the translation according to their culture. It is the culture, meaning, thoughts of the original writers that are inspired which is why the Jews were/are so careful when copying the scriptures. If one mistake was made--the whole thing was scraped, not erased, not crossed out. Before they wrote the name of God they would lay their writing instrument down and pray before proceeding.
"James warmed to a new translation because he despised the then popular Geneva Bible. He was bothered more by its sometimes borderline revolutionary marginal notes than by the actual quality of the translation.
Get to Work!
So James ordered a new translation. It was to be accurate and true to the originals. He appointed fifty of the nation's finest language scholars and approved rules for carefully checking the results.
James also wanted a popular translation. He insisted that the translation use old familiar terms and names and be readable in the idiom of the day.
It was made clear that James wanted no biased notes affixed to the translation, as in the Geneva Bible. Rule #6 stated: "No Marginal Notes at all to be affixed, but only for the explanation of the Hebrew or Greek Words." Also, James was looking for a single translation that the whole nation could rely on "To be read in the whole Church," as he phrased it.
He decreed that special pains be "taken for an uniform translation, which should be done by the best learned men in both Universities, then reviewed by the Bishops, presented to the Privy Council, lastly ratified by the Royal authority...."
A Colossal Achievement
Consider how preposterous it was to have a team of elite scholars writing for a largely illiterate public. We can only stand back in amazement at their achievement. Think how ludicrous the translation mandate was. It called for a product commissioned to reinforce a clear-cut royal political agenda, to be done by elite scholarly committees, reviewed by a self-serving bureaucracy, with ultimate approval reserved to an absolutist monarch. The final product was intended primarily for public and popular consumption. It was to be read orally -- intended more to be heard in public than to be read in private."
http://www.christianity.com/church/...0/story-behind-king-james-bible-11630052.html
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Yes, Genesis 10:25 indicates that the earth was divided during the days of Peleg following the flood, hence, the meaning of his name. Nimrod is considered to be an anti-type of this concept since I believe one of the purposes of spreading out the land masses was so people could spread out. Ok, they didn't want to do that, so God confused their languages.
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