I am one sent, not to all, but to those whom the Lord has appointed. Perhaps you, perhaps not.
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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
How does one come to believe something?
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Apparently, this your Lord sends out people to proselytize without equipping them with any teaching and communication skills. Too bad...
But I´m sure you have great success when preaching to the choir. Best of luck!
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"He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." Matthew 5:45
"It is not I who speak, but the Spirit of my Father who speaks" Matthew 10:20
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Its my opinion, that proper insight will lead us not to argue with people who will not hear our faith. What's the point? All it will achieve is argument and contention. I have noticed that its easy to offend others with our words, and to become offended ourselves as well. That only hinders our message however, and closes the ears of those listening. If that happens, its not their fault they do not hear, but ours. Sure, maybe they wont hear it anyway, but further closing their ears to our words, when those words become like a noisy gong, is unwise.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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? Well, it seems over 90% of all threads and posts are this way.
The only solution is to look elsewhere, right ?
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I hear you - and we should indeed be silent with our own words. Yet here we are in our Father's house, and what shall be heard here, their message or His? And who will give an answer, if we for our own reasons, do not allow the Holy Spirit?
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yeshuaslavejeff
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Is that a lot like GOFUNDME ?
..... "pro- fund - itty-bitty - "I" (me) , er... etc.. (lots of empty (hollow) requests for free money from others) (with a few legitimate potentials)
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Ana the Ist
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When the meek inherit the Earth, one wonders how long they'll be able to hang onto it...
I would imagine that having something to fight over will immediately "un-meek" them.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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Not their worry. Once inherited from Yhwh, it is their's forever. There will be no one anywhere who could take it away, nor even challenge them.
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I don't remember you citing Aristotle, sorry.
Lol is that what you make of those who disagree with you? They must have "carnal" understanding.
I prefer calling it extra-super-transcendental-above-and-beyond-spiritual understanding.
Oh, is that what you have? Union with god? Maybe you could ask him some questions for me...as I'd like to get answers for them.
It's really more of a statement of fact.
I'm sorry, what's the difference between regular old "understanding" and "carnal understanding"? I'm guessing there's none...but you keep throwing those two words around like there is.
The Lord of the Rings was an allegorical fantasy about World War 1 and the industrial revolution. Frodo's compulsion to use the ring and it's weakening effect was an allegory for morphine. The Shire is England. The return to the shire at the end is Tolkien's return to England and the changes the industrial revolution brought there.
I'll let you figure out the rest.
In other words, you're preaching because no one else shares your personal interpretation of the bible. At least you've got that in common with Scott.
Indeed, they tend to gravitate towards personal interpretation and heavy amounts of preaching. Look to any cult leader anywhere.
Don't say I never gave you anything.
What about carnal reality?
Why were you an atheist?
Sorry to hear that...it would've been nice if you could do it on your own. We can't all be that strong though, can we?
How did he tell you? You heard his voice? Saw the words in a taco shell?
Well I've already asked you about that...and your "firsthand knowledge" appears to be of the imaginary sort.
Depends on what your goals are.
There are those words again...
If you find yourself to be a judgemental self-centered dysfunctional person...I'd agree. I'm glad you started and I hope you keep at it.
Well if you're not really judgemental or self-centered....it's a bit of a waste to worry about those things.
When you find you can't have those things...tell yourself you can have something better. An imaginary relationship with imaginary friends who will take you to an imaginary land where you get to live forever!
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The vast majority of scholars, secular and religious, don't believe that Moses existed.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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footnote : "carnal" is simply anything sourced in the flesh , world, or satan/demons, temporal and/or sinful.
Even saying "I am of Paul" was noted as being carnal(sinful) and to be repented of.
Today that would be "I am xyz" in most cases, referring to politics, society or religion -- all carnal according to Yhwh's Word; and all to be repented of.
Even saying "I am of Paul" was noted as being carnal(sinful) and to be repented of.
Today that would be "I am xyz" in most cases, referring to politics, society or religion -- all carnal according to Yhwh's Word; and all to be repented of.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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That may or may not be true.
It doesn't matter what they think.
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I am telling you that my quest was for the truth that would find the way to heal the self, and in this quest I was an atheist like you... I got to the bottom of self in that quest, and failed of healing... It was only then that God came... I was not seeking justification (in the sense of affirmation), nor was I seeking God, but only the healing of the self I found myself beleaguered by... And in this I failed utterly, and found God Whom I was not seeking at all...
And in that finding of the God in Whom I did NOT believe, I found the healing I had been seeking...
Even to this day and hour...
I live in unimaginable joy...
For you they are opposite poles, because you do not know God...
For me, they are not...
Arsenios
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