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Why did Jesus Leave?

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amariselle

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They won't always tell you they're atheists - they sign up and log in as 'christian' ....

on their own websites they tell one another how to mock christians/
perhaps half of the "asking for advice" "need help" "oh woe is me so and so did this to me" posts are from atheists and dozens of posters and hundreds of posts may get posted in reply (whether to help, or whatever), all tied up on a thread started by a mocking atheist..... (the "good" pity posts are copied/ repeated/ 'taught' at the atheists sites, then "kindly" passed on to any 'christian' forum they care to harass that lets them stay (they will log in as 'christians' or atheists, it doesn't matter to them) ) ....

I believe this is happening as well. I've seen it for myself actually.
 
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I believe this is happening as well. I've seen it for myself actually.
'Everyone' here has seen it (who reads the prayer requests, etc). Few realize it.
Pointing it out each time is without end/ doesn't result in good action very often because it takes , relatively, so much time to prove it each time. Even moderators or administrators in most forums and most chat rooms I've seen make it known that they don't have time to deal with them all even if they wanted to.
And when the 'rules' prevent bringing everything out into the light, well, just got to let them go...... like Jesus says "That's not your concern; go and do as the Father tells you to do"....
... so , that's what we do ....
 
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... "on their own websites" ....
Like wells that are poisoned..... easy to find by the death all around....
no, I won't advertise where they are..... I got sick just visiting them....
So you make bold assertions - slanderous, poisonous accusations - but you cannot back them up, because you don't want to "advertise" them.

Advertise to whom? Good Christians would never visit those sites, and we evil atheists already know all of these, don't we?

A Christian of course would know that lying - spreading false accusations about others - is not divinly sanctioned behaviour... but I will give you the benefit of doubt. I assume you really believe the untruths you claim.

Of course you will also be aware that such a behaviour doesn't endear you to the "honest atheists" either, won't you? But I guess you also assume that there are no honest atheists here, don't you?

Well, I cannot stop you. Nor do I want to. You are are great asset to your faith! ;)
 
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You think you gave a well thought out answer?

Yes, actually. Just because you disagreed with it doesn't change whether I put thought into it.

Sometimes non-Christians simply assume that Christians can't or won't think at all, that's part of the problem. (Evidenced by a statement made on this very thread that an honest answer is preferable to a Christian answer, as though the two are automatically mutually exclusive.

Where did I say that there shouldn't be any? I clarified that this isn't a Q&A board.

And yet the title of this thread poses a question and the OP was asking for specific answers. Perhaps the thread is in the wrong sub-section of the forums?

You're not able to articulate it?

Of course I am, that's why I think it's terrible.

Yes. Unlike you, I understand how the philosophy forum operates. It's not a Q&A board.

Apparently, however, you think that there shouldn't be any such thing as Christian philosophy on a Christian forum.

In the context in which I said it, it was part of a discussion, no? So obviously the goal is to further that discussion. You could address the point, rather than asking why it was made.

And your idea of "furthering discussion" on a Christian forum is to suggest that Jesus was "nothing special"?

Not to mention, the idea of Jesus being nothing special is nowhere near the topic of this thread.

Also, I did in fact address the point, once again you dismissed it.
 
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Because you two seem frustrated. Maybe you could use a break?

Nope, not frustrated at all. But I do have every right to be concerned, and that doesn't merit the repeated suggestion that I should leave.
 
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Yes, actually. Just because you disagreed with it doesn't change whether I put thought into it.

Sometimes non-Christians simply assume that Christians can't or won't think at all, that's part of the problem. (Evidenced by a statement made on this very thread that an honest answer is preferable to a Christian answer, as though the two are automatically mutually exclusive.



And yet the title of this thread poses a question and the OP was asking for specific answers. Perhaps the thread is in the wrong sub-section of the forums?



Of course I am, that's why I think it's terrible.



Apparently, however, you think that there shouldn't be any such thing as Christian philosophy on a Christian forum.



And your idea of "furthering discussion" on a Christian forum is to suggest that Jesus was "nothing special"?

Not to mention, the idea of Jesus being nothing special is nowhere near the topic of this thread.

Also, I did in fact address the point, once again you dismissed it.
Why didn't you answer my question?

Here it is again; How tall is Jesus?
 
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Yes, actually. Just because you disagreed with it doesn't change whether I put thought into it.
I don't think it was well thought through, for reasons I've already mentioned. But you haven't engaged with those points because you've abandoned the thread.
And yet the title of this thread poses a question and the OP was asking for specific answers. Perhaps the thread is in the wrong sub-section of the forums?
It could be. But given its location, this is not the appropriate place for outreach activities.
Of course I am, that's why I think it's terrible.
Huh? You still haven't answered the question: why would it be terrible that my faith eroded?
Apparently, however, you think that there shouldn't be any such thing as Christian philosophy on a Christian forum.
Where did I state that? Could you please point to the post?
And your idea of "furthering discussion" on a Christian forum is to suggest that Jesus was "nothing special"?
Um, yes? Obviously. Again, this is a philosophy forum. Why on earth would you be shocked by such a statement on a philosophy forum?
Not to mention, the idea of Jesus being nothing special is nowhere near the topic of this thread.

Also, I did in fact address the point, once again you dismissed it.
As I recall, you presented your usual rebuttal: "that's just your opinion, man!" What am I supposed to do with that? It doesn't address what I've said in any substantial way.
 
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All the "-ists" (the ones that are of man's or demon's origin) are dealt with by Jesus. No need to 'worry' about them at all, just stay with Jesus and do as the Father in heaven says (the world and all of the "-ists" hate this, but can do nothing but rant and rave) ....

Who thinks Jesus isn't holding everything together by the power of His Word, always, right now, forever ? (i.e. He is present everywhere, there is no where anyone can go to get away from God)
 
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Once again, this is a philosophy forum. If you want more lax standards, there are plenty of other forums on this site.

Once again, this is first an foremost a Christian philosophy forum, and this particular thread is asking a very specific question about Jesus.

If you desire a place where you can suggest that Jesus is "nothing special" and continue to question the Diety of Jesus and the Christian faith, there are many secular forums on the Internet. This is not one of them.
 
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Once again, this is first an foremost a Christian philosophy forum, and this particular thread is asking a very specific question about Jesus.

If you desire a place where you can suggest that Jesus is "nothing special" and continue to question the Diety of Jesus and the Christian faith, there are many secular forums on the Internet. This is not one of them.
Sorry, you don't get to make the rules.
 
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Why didn't you answer my question?

Here it is again; How tall is Jesus?

What is your point? Because I refuse to answer trivial questions being asked for no real purpose but to undermine the Christian faith in some way.
 
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All the "-ists" (the ones that are of man's or demon's origin) are dealt with by Jesus. No need to 'worry' about them at all, just stay with Jesus and do as the Father in heaven says (the world and all of the "-ists" hate this, but can do nothing but rant and rave) ....

Who thinks Jesus isn't holding everything together by the power of His Word, always, right now, forever ? (i.e. He is present everywhere, there is no where anyone can go to get away from God)
That's right, when beliefs are challenged, double down.
 
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