Science PROVES the BIBLE is True

[Hieronymus]

I accept the day age theory

And it was evening, and it was morning...

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you make an observation, or a prediction AFTER the relevant knowledge has already been discovered,

Exactly and the point is: using what is currently known about science does not conflict with the Bible in any way. Current science verifies that the Bible is accurate and true.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And probably doubled over with laughter............

Yeah, it is pretty funny, but the girl was upset. I remember her exact word: Mommy he said there is something wrong with Harry Potter. So she was calling on her mother to give an account.

 

[Herman Hedning]

Yeah, it is pretty funny, but the girl was upset. I remember her exact word: Mommy he said there is something wrong with Harry Potter. So she was calling on her mother to give an account.

So, you said that to a little girl? Doesn't that count as harassment or something?

 

[joshua 1 9]

And it was evening, and it was morning...

Dispensationalism does not really deal with that. Gerald Schroeder talks about it to some degree in his books going back to the oral tradition and the Kabbalah. Light and darkness are a major theme in the Bible. We are told to walk in the light and not in darkness.

 

[SteveB28]

Exactly and the point is: using what is currently known about science does not conflict with the Bible in any way. Current science verifies that the Bible is accurate and true.

Very well.... I'll try just one more time.

You have it back to front. Science doesn't verify the bible. The bible was written with the scientific knowledge already in place! It was not a case of the bible observing night and day and then science confirming it. We already knew what a night and day were!

Is even the tiniest speck of this sinking in.....?

 

[joshua 1 9]

So, you said that to a little girl? Doesn't that count as harassment or something?

I do not know. I do not remember if he ever got arrested or not. For the most part people just let him do his thing. Only reprobates get upset about stuff like that. No one else cares or they think it is funny. He told me when he was doing missionary work in Amsterdam someone came at him with a knife once but he was able to take the knife away from them. He was a pretty big guy, over 6 foot. Those wooden crosses are somewhat heavy to carry.

 

[joshua 1 9]

But you just told me in another thread that science can't make a judgement on things like Adam's lifespan.

Can we live to be 1,000 years old? Here is an article on that.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/s...g/news-story/d86c96b4f91639d0fbf3424a94f061b4

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you make an observation, or a prediction AFTER the relevant knowledge has already been discovered, then you really aren't making a very unique statement, are you?

Again your getting off into another subject. Although this could make for a good thread. There are people that ask: "how many prophecies did Jesus fulfill?" The usual answer is 353. Perhaps you could produce a suggestion as to why or how Jesus was able to fulfill so many prophecy.

http://www1.cbn.com/biblestudy/biblical-prophecies-fulfilled-by-jesus

 

[Jimmy D]

First of all IF Noah was not a real person then he would be a archetype not a myth. What is amazing with God is that He is able to use real people as an object lesson for us to learn from. For those who do not know God they do not realize how God is able to do this. It would not matter if Noah was a real person or not because the lesson we learn from the story remains the same. Perhaps you would like to demonstrate some understanding and explain to us just what the story of Noah is all about and what the lesson is we are to learn from that. So what is this story all about? Just what is the deeper spiritual meaning? Do you know, do you understand?

"At the time of Noah, the earth had become corrupted. God wanted to cleanse his creation, so he devised a plan to flood the earth and rid it of its wickedness. And why was man considered wicked? Genesis states that man was wicked because his thoughts and imaginations were evil (Gen 6:5)." So maybe, just maybe the story of Noah would be a very good story for people with a reprobate mind. Because that is exactly what we are dealing with in the story. We are dealing with the destruction of a people where every though and every imagination were evil. So the story of Noah then becomes a stumbling block for them because they are not willing to use the story to examine themselves.

People need to let go of the sin that holds them back. So their brain can work the way God designed their brain to function. So they can put off their primal nature and evolve into or become the people that God intends for us to be. Jesus paid the price so we can be born again and a new Creation in Christ. Putting off the old and putting on the new nature.


"The writer to the Hebrews tells us that "Types" are but the "SHADOW OF GOOD THINGS TO COME, AND NOT THE VERY IMAGE OF THE THING." Heb. 10:1. That is, the Old Testament "Types" are but "SHADOWS." But there cannot be a "shadow" without some "REAL THING" to make it. And a "shadow" is not the "very image of the thing,"for a shadow is out of proportion, and is an imperfect representation of the thing it reveals. So the Old Testament Types are "shadows" in the sense that they are not the "Real Thing," and are but imperfect revelations of it."

https://www.blueletterbible.org/study/larkin/dt/28.cfm

You originally said he was a real person and boasted about your knowledge of ancient history, it seems that you've changed your mind and are admitting that he is mythical.

I'm not suggesting that the story had no value as a lesson just that it isn't a historical account and that it would be foolish to think that it was as all the evidence (from geology, biology etc) tells us otherwise.

Science proves the flood myth is false.

 

[SteveB28]

Again your getting off into another subject. Although this could make for a good thread. There are people that ask: "how many prophecies did Jesus fulfill?" The usual answer is 353. Perhaps you could produce a suggestion as to why or how Jesus was able to fulfill so many prophecy.

http://www1.cbn.com/biblestudy/biblical-prophecies-fulfilled-by-jesus

No, I am not getting off subject. YOU claim that "science confirms the bible". I am showing how you are very, very wrong. I said nothing about prophecy.

 

[Jimmy D]

Can we live to be 1,000 years old? Here is an article on that.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/s...g/news-story/d86c96b4f91639d0fbf3424a94f061b4

Do we live to a thousand years? NO
Is there any evidence to show anyone used to live to a thousand years? NO

An article saying that they hope to one day make it possible to have longer lifespans is not proof of anything.

 

[Hieronymus]

Dispensationalism does not really deal with that.

Well:
"And it was evening and it was morning, the first day."
The same for every one of the 6 days of Creation.
"Jewish days" or rather, as God called them in Genesis 1, starting in the evening.
Millennia don't have an evening and a morning.
And how would the eco system have worked if there were millennia between the phases of Creation?
You run into all kinds of problems by allegorising the days of Genesis 1.
And why would you allegorise?
Just because it's hard to believe when you're brought up in our naturalistic culture.

Having said that, i'm not 100% sure myself though.
It's rather unimaginable.
But that's the limits of my imagination, not the limits of God's capabilities.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Is there any evidence to show anyone used to live to a thousand years? NO

You got it backwards. There is no evidence to show that they did not live to be 1,000 years old. You have the burden of proof, not me. There are also clay tablets outside of the Bible. The book of kings that shows people living very long lives back then.

Science considers aging to be a disease. IF people do not age then they are not going to look older. I did the research on this. What was the cause of death of pre-civilized people. It is always the same. They were killed in the "prime" of their life from a weapon like an arrowhead. So what do you have? I would be glad to see your evidence of a pre civilization person that died from old age. Show me your evidence because the evidence that we have verifys that people could have lived that long back then.

 

[Jimmy D]

You got it backwards. There is no evidence to show that they did not live to be 1,000 years old. You have the burdon of proof, not me.

I sometimes wonder if you're trolling us.

You are the one that says science proves the bible true, it's your claim, not mine.

Does science say neolithic people used to live for a thousand years?

 

[JackRT]

Science says there is a beginning.

Science says no such thing! Science says only that our universe developed from a singularity (aka Big Bang). That singularity might or might not be a beginning.

 

[Robert Palase]

You got it backwards. There is no evidence to show that they did not live to be 1,000 years old. You have the burden of proof, not me.

I do hope the Christians here read this, this is what happens when thinking for oneself is sacrificed to a religion.

 

[Loudmouth]

There is an overwhelming amount of rock solid science that proves the Bible is accurate and true. To be sure Science is limited in what Science can do. Still there is Overwhelming Scientific Evidence for the Bible. The problem is people that are perishing do not understand the Bible. They ALWAYS get it wrong. Because they are not born again then they have NOT been renewed in their mind and the CARNAL mind simply is not able to comprehend the Bible. The Bible is SPIRITUAL NOT CARNAL. The fact that they ALWAYS get it wrong is evidence in itself. Because if you are not FOR God then you are AGAINST God. That means you are an enemy of God. I have no idea why people would want to be an enemy of the God that is powerful enough to Create the Whole Universe. That does not even make any reasonable sense. We know that "the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness". Why would they want to subject themselves to the Wrath of God? For them to say there is NO evidence is simply absurd and that is a sign their mind is not functioning right. The Bible says they have a reprobate mind. We are told that they “suppress the truth by their wickedness.”. So we see that their main objective is to suppress the truth. I am sure they get some sort of reward for their wickedness, "for a season". The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Of course they know they are going to die and perish so that is no surprise to them. Whatever pleasure or advantage they get for their wickedness now is going to be short lived. "Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season." Heb 11:24 Everyone gets to make this choice. God is willing to turn people over to a reprobate mind if that is what they want. He will not make that decision for them. This is a choice that each and every individual must make for themselves. We all make the choice: do we want a mind that is renewed in strength or do we want a reprobate mind? So even I give people huge, Huge, HUGE amounts of scientific evidence they are not able to accept or receive that evidence because of the reprobate mind they have and their propensity to suppress the truth.

Using the same reasoning, I could prove that all of the Harry Potter books are 100% accurate history and supported by science.

 

[Loudmouth]

Ok that is the first five verses and there is no conflict with science. The evidence shows that the Bible is true. Those who reject the truth of the Bible have a reprobate mind. It does not good to argue with them. They need to be born again. They need to advance and evolve beyond their reprobate state of existence.

In the Harry Potter books, it says that people sit down for meals. We know that people sit down for meals. Therefore, everything in the Harry Potter books is scientifically accurate.

 

[Loudmouth]

These books are based on witchcraft and sorcery. We are living in the great apostasy (falling away from the truth) Before primer books like this needed to be more veiled but now we are getting close to the end then evil is more rampant. I remember a girl once when she was told how evil and wicked Harry Potter books were she was shocked and amazed. There was a friend of mine that use to go out to the festivals with a huge banner so he could educate the young people to christian perspective about these books. He was sort of a Arthur Blessitt type. Sometimes he would carry a big cross.

You have a reprobate mind and want to hide the truth of the Harry Potter books. Everyone knows that all of the Harry Potter books are supported by scientific evidence.