Can you be good without God?

[Dave Ellis]

You have no point.

Without God, you are meaningless.

You can either keep imagining your delusion is correct or you can accept God's sovereignty over your life.

 

[Dave Ellis]

So what meaning would your life have after the universe fades into darkness? Just curious.

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My life will be long over by that point. However, it doesn't lessen my experiences while I was alive to experience them at all.

Why would it?

 

[MennoSota]

If you can't find meaning in your own life because trillions of years from now the universe will experience heat death, I really don't know what to say to you... But that's an absolutely bizarre reason to not love life, and the people in it.

It's funny how you avoid the elephant in your room. Is this how you maintain the Matrix you've created in order to avoid meaninglessness?

 

[MennoSota]

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LOL, and you did it while blind and deaf. Congratulations, Helen.

 

[MennoSota]

My life will be long over by that point. However, it doesn't lessen my experiences while I was alive to experience them at all.

Why would it?

The molecules don't care. You live in a world of delusion.

 

[SteveB28]

"God demonstrated His love toward us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. "

A glorious promise for God's elect.

My beliefs are only of value, if God has declared.
I trust God, the Creator. You...you provide a life with no meaning or purpose.
God gives purpose to everything.

That was a 'promise' made by a man, not a god.

 

[Dave Ellis]

The Bible isn't made up, like your story.
Try again.
Yeshua, Jesus, makes all your silly comments laughable. He has shown his authority, but you foolishly consider a meaningless existence more rational than following the Sovereign King. So be it.

No, actually the bible is made up.

One of the reasons we know this is because of the love the flying spaghetti monster has shown us all. You should repent lest you be tossed into the eternally boiling pot of water.

 

[Dave Ellis]

You have shown nothing from God's word to prove your point. I have expressed God's word to you. I am an ambassador for the King (2 Corinthians 5).
You aren't arguing against me. You are arguing against what God has Sovereignly declared in the Bible. So be it.

Is Paul god?

 

[Dave Ellis]

The molecules don't care. You live in a world of delusion.

Molecules can't have delusions, therefore I am more than simple molecules.

 

[Dave Ellis]

It's funny how you avoid the elephant in your room. Is this how you maintain the Matrix you've created in order to avoid meaninglessness?

 

[SteveB28]

Since God is Sovereign, He might choose to call me to Himself by any means He chose, or He could justly and rightly have me die in my sins and pay the penalty for lawbreaking.
God is not obligated to pardon anyone. Ignorance is not an excuse.
As Christians, however, we are called to speak as Ambassadors for our King, in any and all parts of the world. This is our commission and call to obedience. Silence is disobedience on our part.
How you respond to the message is up to God to decide.

Amazing then, that he appears not to "call" people who live in particular parts of the world. He didn't care to "call" the Australian aborigines, the Amazonian natives, the North American natives, all of China, most of Asia, etc.

Pretty sloppy communication, don't you think?

 

[Dave Ellis]

Amazing then, that he appears not to "call" people who live in particular parts of the world. He didn't care to "call" the Australian aborigines, the Amazonian natives, the North American natives, all of China, most of Asia, etc.

Pretty sloppy communication, don't you think?

Wasn't his fault, he used Comcast.

 

[MennoSota]

Glad you saw the movie. There is a world outside the Matrix you live in and it is much more beautiful than anything you've created for yourself.

 

[Dave Ellis]

Glad you saw the movie. There is a world outside the Matrix you live in and it is much more beautiful than anything you've created for yourself.

If it's the world you live in, no thanks. I imagine it resembles something like a mixture of Dante's Inferno and One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest.

 

[SteveB28]

You have shown nothing from God's word to prove your point. I have expressed God's word to you. I am an ambassador for the King (2 Corinthians 5).
You aren't arguing against me. You are arguing against what God has Sovereignly declared in the Bible. So be it.

Your God has "declared" nothing. Every word written in the Bible was written by a man. We don't know who most of those men were, but we can be sure that they were humans.

 

[MennoSota]

Amazing then, that he appears not to "call" people who live in particular parts of the world. He didn't care to "call" the Australian aborigines, the Amazonian natives, the North American natives, all of China, most of Asia, etc.

Pretty sloppy communication, don't you think?

He does. There are now more Christians in China than there are Communist Party members. There are Aborigines who are Christians. The good news of Yeshua's reconciliation and pardon is spreading to everyone God is chosing to call. It is wonderful to see. Even in great persecution, Muslims are coming to faith as God calls them through faith in Yeshua, the Messiah.

It's too bad your eyes are closed to what God is doing all around the world. Amazing grace is still as sweet a sound as ever.

 

[MennoSota]

Your God has "declared" nothing. Every word written in the Bible was written by a man. We don't know who most of those men were, but we can be sure that they were humans.

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent. Equipped for every good work.
~ 2 Timothy 3:16-17

It neat how God uses humans by His sovereign decree.

 

[SteveB28]

He does. There are now more Christians in China than there are Communist Party members. There are Aborigines who are Christians. The good news of Yeshua's reconciliation and pardon is spreading to everyone God is chosing to call. It is wonderful to see. Even in great persecution, Muslims are coming to faith as God calls them through faith in Yeshua, the Messiah.

It's too bad your eyes are closed to what God is doing all around the world. Amazing grace is still as sweet a sound as ever.

You are simply incorrect. What you place your faith in are outliers. Most people in Asia, Africa, in the indigenous communities around the world are NOT Christian. The simple fact is that your god's "call" was and remains silent in those parts.

You know, it's almost like that "call" was made by men, not a god...........

 

[SteveB28]

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent. Equipped for every good work.
~ 2 Timothy 3:16-17

It neat how God uses humans by His sovereign decree.

Again, a claim made by MEN, not a god. A man may claim whatever he chooses. That doesn't make it true.

 

[SteveB28]

Let me remind you, MEN also claimed that Thor produces thunder, that the Olympian gods bred with humans and that a man named Mohammed flew to heaven on a horse.

Are we meant to believe just any nonsense that men put their names to?