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[Subduction Zone]

I have repeated presented overwhelming scientific evidence that shows the Bible is accurate and true. In fact we have 100 years of archaeology that shows the Bible is accurate and true.

And we also have overwhelming archaeological that the Bible is not accurate and true. Look into what archaeologists say about the Exodus. If you are going to live by archaeology, then you need to accept it when it tells you that the Bible is wrong too.

 

[Subduction Zone]

God says this about those who died for Him ...

Hebrews 11:38a Of whom the world was not worthy:

Actually people wrote that. God did not say that.

 

[SteveB28]

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" 2 Tim 3:16. Perhaps you do not understand the meaning of: "God-breathed" or inspired. 2 Peter 1:21 "For no prophecy was ever brought about through human initiative, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit".

You are using the Bible as evidence for the Bible! When will you people get that concept through your heads?

The Bible was entirely written by men. We don't know who most of them were, but we know it was composed by a human! You cannot point to a single word that was written by a god!

 

[SteveB28]

I have read the ALL of the Bible AT LEAST five time (I underline as I read). I have 7 Bibles that I have read. Do you want me to show you a photo of them? You have not ever read the Bible once, your claim is that "I understand that parts of the Bible are myth". As a Christian we do not lean on our own understanding. So really your claim is based on your understanding which I find to be highly questionable. In fact you cannot prove nothing. You have not one shred of evidence and not one shred of proof. In comparison I have overwhelming Scientific Evidence that shows the Bible is accurate and true. Again, you have NOTHING to show your claim. Zip, Zero, Nothing.

So, you've read the part that explains that, to breed coloured goats, you have the copulating parents stare at striped sticks!?

Happy with that one, are you Farmer Jones?

 

[SteveB28]

And all the martyrs died for believing something they knew wasn't true, didn't they?

Planes into buildings? Suicide bombers in shopping centres?

Islam is "true" then?

 

[SteveB28]

God says this about those who died for Him ...

Hebrews 11:38a Of whom the world was not worthy:

A man wrote that. A man with a self-serving interest.

 

[SteveB28]

Sorry, I just realised that I am repeating points made by others.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sorry, I just realised that I am repeating points made by others.

And they have all been made countless other times. No harm in repeating the obvious to those that refuse to learn. Maybe one day the lesson will sink in.

 

[SteveB28]

And they have all been made countless other times. No harm in repeating the obvious to those that refuse to learn. Maybe one day the lesson will sink in.

Yes. Emotional stress acts as a great barrier to learning though. Most of these people are simply too afraid to believe in any other way.

 

[AV1611VET]

All religions have martyrs, Christianity does not have any special claim to that. If martyrs are your goal post then all religions are true.

Not the suicide bombers, they are going straight to heaven unless anyone can show they are not.

-- I guess it's time for this story again:

There was once a man who captured a Leprechaun and forced him to tell him where the pot of gold was. The Leprechaun took him into a forest and showed him where it was buried: at the base of a tree. Whereupon the man tied a red ribbon around the tree, made the Leprechaun promise he wouldn't touch it, and then went and got a shovel. Coming back, to his horror, the Leprechaun had tied red ribbons around every tree in the forest.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[pat34lee]

Unbelievable.
Facts are not influenced by 'sad and empty', your 'sad and empty' will die with you and the fact will remain.

Nope. Where there is life, love, beauty, intelligence and good, there is God.
He is there where those are missing too, but he did not cause their lack.
We did.

 

[pat34lee]

Arguing apologetics is actually against the rules here. I have been dinged before for doing so and will not risk it again for your amusement.

No problem. If you want to try privately, pm me.

 

[pat34lee]

Many, however, including myself, dispute the notion that evolution has no direction or purpose.

ID? That is another can of worms where biblical truth is concerned.

 

[SteveB28]

Nope. Where there is life, love, beauty, intelligence and good, there is God.
He is there where those are missing too, but he did not cause their lack.
We did.

Another empty claim.

 

[pat34lee]

Moses knew nothing about evolution. He probably didn't even exist.

Jesus claimed that he did.

John 5:45-47
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

 

[pat34lee]

Another empty claim.

Not to everyone. Again, evolution is a sad, lonely thing to believe.

 

[pat34lee]

No, we understand the cause quite well.

Not really. You think you know the method.
The cause is something else. The WHY to
the HOW.

 

[SteveB28]

Jesus claimed that he did.

John 5:45-47
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Jesus claimed nothing. Again, you cannot show me a single word written by him. All you can do is show me claims made by other men.

Do some research. Moses almost certainly is mythical.

 

[SteveB28]

Not to everyone. Again, evolution is a sad, lonely thing to believe.

Truth is truth.

 

[pat34lee]

Truth is truth.

And truth is another proof of God.