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I find this to be a bizarre argument. Why would a biblical-type "god", creating our world miracle-by-miracle, have any need for "fine-tuning"? It could have us living on the surface of the Sun, could it not? If we existed in the absence of fine tuning, then you would have your evidence that naturalism was an inaccurate description of reality. Parsimony, and all that.I have pointed out how a deviation of a trillionth of a degree one way or the other at the time of the Big Bang would have prohibited the formation of carbon, and life as we know it.
I do not think it was random.I don't know how you delude yourself to thinking that was random,
Such as?when we know that there is very little that's random in the universe.
If you keep up with the conversation, you'll see that it's your turn.Yes, you keep repeating variations of that same claim, but you stop short of actually showing how you reasoned to that conclusion.
Maybe, if you can show something that isn't designed.No evidence then?
Full Definition of designBy what testable criteria do you determine "design"?
#869. For some reason only the word NONE posted.....on my tablet.....sometimes I think it is possessed......Dont see it. Give me a number.
Sure. By what testable criteria do you determine "design"?Full Definition of design
- transitive verb
- 1: to create, fashion, execute, or construct according to plan : devise, contrive
- 2a : to conceive and plan out in the mind <he designed the perfect crime>b : to have as a purpose : intend <she designed to excel in her studies>c : to devise for a specific function or end <a book designed primarily as a college textbook>
- 3archaic : to indicate with a distinctive mark, sign, or name
- 4a : to make a drawing, pattern, or sketch ofb : to draw the plans for <design a building>
- intransitive verb
- 1: to conceive or execute a plan
- 2: to draw, lay out, or prepare a design
Are you trying to say that you cannot look at something and determine designed or not designed?Sure. By what testable criteria do you determine "design"?
When your claim is unfalsifiable, virtually anything can be claimed as evidence.That's very true. The only way for us to understand it is to study it and find out how they work based on predictable events. Like the laws of thermodynamics (which also are evidence of God, by the way).
God isn't subject to the rules and laws of the creation he made. Same is true for anything created by anyone.Ask a painter like Dali if he's subject to the rules of the paintings he created.When your claim is unfalsifiable, virtually anything can be claimed as evidence.
Is your "God" subject to the laws of thermodynamics? What about "souls"? "Heaven"? "Hell"?
God isn't subject to the rules and laws of the creation he made. Same is true for anything created by anyone.Ask a painter like Dali if he's subject to the rules of the paintings he created.
You know, if something is unfalsifiable, that tends to mean that it's true. God is an absolute, he is the definition of unfalsifiable.
Well that's very good. Because nothing in the universe is 100%. Only God. But I know designed things when I see them. Because I know everything is designed. Tell you what-you make up the testable criteria.Not with 100% reliability, no. Hence my question.
By what testable criteria do you determine "design"?
Care to chime in with something that's not designed?More LOL
Well, I'm not the one who challenged whether everything is designed, because I know that everything is designed.Are you saying you can't answer his simple question?