What is the greatest evidence against the theory of evolution...?

[juvenissun]

Yes, and you have repeatedly said that human intelligence was created. Do you have any actual scientific evidence that it was created and did not evolve?
And I'll reiterate: And do not say "You are the evidence", otherwise I will report you for being a troll.

I said repeatedly that a smart person like you IS the evidence. Why is it not an evidence. Are you smart? Do you exist?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I said repeatedly that a smart person like you IS the evidence. Why is it not an evidence. Are you smart? Do you exist?

Because it's not actual evidence! Just saying "you", without showing scientific evidence for intelligence being created is the same as asking "where does glass come from?" and pointing at a window!

 

[juvenissun]

Because it's not actual evidence! Just saying "you", without showing scientific evidence for intelligence being created is the same as asking "where does glass come from?" and pointing at a window!

Do I need any scientific evidence to demonstrate you are smarter than a cat? a cow?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Do I need any scientific evidence to demonstrate you are smarter than a cat? a cow?

*sigh* No-one is arguing that humans are smarter than a large percentage of animals.
What we are arguing is the fact that you have repeatedly said that human intelligence was created, not evolved. You have been repeatedly asked for evidence of this claim, and you have repeatedly refused to show any evidence. Instead, you have repeatedly simply stated that humans are the evidence. This is not evidence.
Do you have any actual SCIENTIFIC evidence that human intelligence was created and not evolved?

If you cannot answer this simple request, then I think if it best for everyone, especially yourself, that you leave this thread or be considered nothing more than a troll.

 

[Shemjaza]

Tool use is the consequence of high intelligence, not a cause of high intelligence.
Why are we so extremely smart? It is not a product of evolution.

Not true. Chimps and some birds make use of very rudimentary tool use.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Our intelligence is off scale. That is not evolutional.

It's not. Chimpanzees and a few other apes aren't that far off, which you would know if you investigated a little.

Furthermore, even if our intelligence was more than a trillion times higher than the next most intelligent animal alive, that wouldn't mark the trait as being beyond evolutionary processes.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It did not happen. We don't have an animal as smart as human.

There very well could have been not that long ago. Neanderthals had bigger brains than ours, and even potentially made cave paintings. What part of they went extinct do you not understand?

 

[juvenissun]

*sigh* No-one is arguing that humans are smarter than a large percentage of animals.
What we are arguing is the fact that you have repeatedly said that human intelligence was created, not evolved.

Because human intelligence is far superior than "our common ancestor", so it is not an evolved product.

 

[juvenissun]

Not true. Chimps and some birds make use of very rudimentary tool use.

So, why don't you have a tool-use-savvy chimp neighbor?

 

[juvenissun]

It's not. Chimpanzees and a few other apes aren't that far off, which you would know if you investigated a little.

Teach it to your children. We are no more smarter than chimps.
Shame.

 

[juvenissun]

There very well could have been not that long ago. Neanderthals had bigger brains than ours, and even potentially made cave paintings. What part of they went extinct do you not understand?

In another thread, I tried to learn how did Neanderthals extinct. The conclusion is that we do not know. Just a bunch of speculations. Let me see what was the question unanswered. It seems to be: Neanderthals are strong people, why were they defeated?

Neanderthals are human, aren't they?

 

[AV1611VET]

Because human intelligence is far superior than "our common ancestor", so it is not an evolved product.

Don't you know, Juve, if you leave a cd of HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU sit for 600 million years, you can come back and hear it play the WILLIAM TELL OVERTURE?

 

[Shemjaza]

So, why don't you have a tool-use-savvy chimp neighbor?

Please stop ignoring people's points.

Humans are both more intelligent and better with tools then chimps. No one is disputing that.

However, very slight increases in tool use traits and the intelligence traits were both possible and more useful for the ancestors of humans.

Check these guys out. As time goes on, tools get more sophisticated and brains get bigger. No giant leaps, no single point where creation is necessary. There's no hard line between "ape" and "man".

 

[AV1611VET]

Check these guys out. As time goes on, tools get more sophisticated and brains get bigger. No giant leaps, no single point where creation is necessary. There's no hard line between "ape" and "man".

One big game of connect-the-dots, isn't it?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Because human intelligence is far superior than "our common ancestor", so it is not an evolved product.

I see that you ignored the second half of my request, so I'll repeat it again and I'll bold and underline the important part: You have been repeatedly asked for evidence of this claim, and you have repeatedly refused to show any evidence. Instead, you have repeatedly simply stated that humans are the evidence. This is not evidence.
Do you have any actual SCIENTIFIC evidence that human intelligence was created and not evolved?

 

[juvenissun]

Don't you know, Juve, if you leave a cd of HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU sit for 600 million years, you can come back and hear it play the WILLIAM TELL OVERTURE?

The amazing thing is: It continued to play Happy Birthday for the whole 599 million years.

 

[Shemjaza]

One big game of connect-the-dots, isn't it?

Sure, and a video recording is only a sequence of still images.

 

[juvenissun]

Please stop ignoring people's points.

Humans are both more intelligent and better with tools then chimps. No one is disputing that.

However, very slight increases in tool use traits and the intelligence traits were both possible and more useful for the ancestors of humans.

Check these guys out. As time goes on, tools get more sophisticated and brains get bigger. No giant leaps, no single point where creation is necessary. There's no hard line between "ape" and "man".

There IS. That is all I am arguing about.
The level of intelligence of animals varied between, for example, 1 and 10, then suddenly, human reached to the level of 1,000,000. That is when your "slightly increase" took place. After that, may be it increased slightly to 1,001,000 today. That is why on the list of skulls, the boundary between "monkeys" and human should be very very sharp and is not gradational at all. The difference is not on the morphology, but on the degree of intelligence.

How much is the intelligence difference between able and not able to raise fire? Only slightly, or huge?

 

[juvenissun]

I see that you ignored the second half of my request, so I'll repeat it again and I'll bold and underline the important part: You have been repeatedly asked for evidence of this claim, and you have repeatedly refused to show any evidence. Instead, you have repeatedly simply stated that humans are the evidence. This is not evidence.
Do you have any actual SCIENTIFIC evidence that human intelligence was created and not evolved?

It is not evolved. That is what I am saying.
The evidence is the difference between you and your cat.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

It is not evolved. That is what I am saying.
The evidence is the difference between you and your cat.

There you go again. I asked you: Do you have any actual SCIENTIFIC evidence that human intelligence was created and not evolved?
I don't want a comparison between a human and a completely different animal. I don't want you to simply say "you".
I want you to answer the freaking question, which you have repeatedly avoided answering!
Do you have any actual SCIENTIFIC evidence that human intelligence was created and not evolved?