Revealing quotes from revered scientists.

[Loudmouth]

I'm not sure.
But ID and creationism predicts cumulative data corruption causing problems, because every system without maintenance degrades.
Hereditary diseases.

How is that testable?

 

[Hieronymus]

They are in the feliformia suborder of carnivores which includes hyenas, mongooses, civits and hyenas.

Aha, part of the non existent yet assumed tree.

 

[Hieronymus]

How is that testable?

Statistics.

 

[Loudmouth]

Statistics.

Let's see them.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Aha, part of the non existent yet assumed tree.

It's got a better chance of existing than your claim of 'kinds', since the fact the Hyena is included in the feliformia suborder blows your claims about kinds being made up of similar animals.

 

[Hieronymus]

It's got a better chance of existing than your claim of 'kinds', since the fact the Hyena is included in the feliformia suborder blows your claims about kinds being made up of similar animals.

No it doesn't.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No it doesn't.

So under your definition of the word 'Kind', what 'Kind' does the Hyena fall under then?

 

[Hieronymus]

So under your definition of the word 'Kind', what 'Kind' does the Hyena fall under then?

I'm not sure, they look more like dogs, maybe a kind of their own "one of a kind", so to speak.
I would have to look it up somewhere yet to be determined...

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm not sure, they look more like dogs, maybe a kind of their own "one of a kind", so to speak.
I would have to look it up somewhere yet to be determined...

So then your idea of 'kinds' is complete and utter bunk.

 

[Hieronymus]

So then your idea of 'kinds' is complete and utter bunk.

I think your ideas are utter bunk.

 

[Loudmouth]

I think your ideas are utter bunk.

I think we are scraping the bottom of the creationist logic barrel. "I know you are, but what am I" seems to be the best they can do.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I think your ideas are utter bunk.

But the hyena proves your claim that 'kinds produce after kinds' is bunk, since the hyena is in the a suborder of carnivores that is also occupied by the big cats (cheetahs, leopards, etc) while it's body shape has much more akin with dogs.
And stop with the childish one-line replies. They do nothing to help your credibility.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I think we are scraping the bottom of the creationist logic barrel. "I know you are, but what am I" seems to be the best they can do.

No. Just him.

 

[Hieronymus]

"But hasn't evolution helped guide animal and plant breeding?
Not very much. Most improvement in crop plants and animals occurred long before we knew anything about evolution, and came about by people following the genetic principle of 'like begets like'."
(Jerry Coyne 'Nature' 8/31/2006 p.984)

 

[Loudmouth]

"But hasn't evolution helped guide animal and plant breeding?
Not very much. Most improvement in crop plants and animals occurred long before we knew anything about evolution, and came about by people following the genetic principle of 'like begets like'."
(Jerry Coyne 'Nature' 8/31/2006 p.984)

Like begets like is Darwinian evolution.

Compare this to Lysenkoism that was used in former Soviet Russia. This was a form of Lamarckism where the thought that cold tolerant strains of wheat could be produced by exposing seeds to ice. If they had embraced Darwinian evolution then they would have known that this wouldn't work.

 

[Hieronymus]

Like begets like is Darwinian evolution.

Nope.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

"But hasn't evolution helped guide animal and plant breeding?
Not very much. Most improvement in crop plants and animals occurred long before we knew anything about evolution, and came about by people following the genetic principle of 'like begets like'."
(Jerry Coyne 'Nature' 8/31/2006 p.984)

Where are you getting these quotes from? You're obviously copy and pasting them from somewhere, so just at least do something honest and tell us where you got them from.

 

[Hieronymus]

Where are you getting these quotes from? You're obviously copy and pasting them from somewhere, so just at least do something honest and tell us where you got them from.

I got them from a couple creationist videos.
(I told you that pages ago btw.)

 

[Loudmouth]

Nope.

Yep.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I got them from a couple creationist videos.
(I told you that pages ago btw.)

So you're getting them from a dishonest source to begin with.
Why aren't you actually getting them from the proper sources and actually quoting them in full?