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What is the greatest evidence against the theory of evolution...?

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Life is evidence of life-making pixies. There, see how silly that sounds?

Life is evidence that things are alive, nothing more.
Pixies are legends; God is creator. God is Holy, and God is real. You just deny it.
 
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God is real. You just don't want to believe it.

Odin is real. You just don't want to believe it.
Allah is real. You just don't want to believe it.
Vishnu is real. You just don't want to believe it.

Does the person with the longer list win? Perhaps the oldest god? The prettiest?
 
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Odin is real. You just don't want to believe it.
Allah is real. You just don't want to believe it.
Vishnu is real. You just don't want to believe it.

Does the person with the longer list win? Perhaps the oldest god? The prettiest?
No, the person with the Truth is right. God is real, that is the Truth. Jesus is the Son of God and the savior of all who put their faith and trust in Him, that is the Truth. But you sir, are not of the Truth, because you do not believe. So I will not waste my pearls any longer.
 
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No, the person with the Truth is right. God is real, that is the Truth. Jesus is the Son of God and the savior of all who put their faith and trust in Him, that is the Truth. But you sir, are not of the Truth, because you do not believe. So I will not waste my pearls any longer.

Those are unsupported claims, just as the Hindu makes, just as the Muslim makes. You have no greater justification for asserting that they are true than the others do.
 
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Those are unsupported claims, just as the Hindu makes, just as the Muslim makes. You have no greater justification for asserting that they are true than the others do.
Atheism is the unsupported claim that there is no God, yet you believe it, do you not?
 
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Atheism is the unsupported claim that there is no God, yet you believe it, do you not?

That is not the claim of atheism - you make a common error. But please don't change the subject. What makes your claims about the 'Truth' objectively correct, while all other religious followers are wrong?
 
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That is not the claim of atheism - you make a common error. But please don't change the subject. What makes your claims about the 'Truth' objectively correct, while all other religious followers are wrong?
How can you prove God to a person who refuses to believe Him? How can you prove Christ is the Son of God to someone if they think it is bogus? You can't! That is what the scripture says and that is what you are demonstrating right now. This all goes back to my very first post in this thread, and honestly, I should have ended it there. But of course, in my own foolishness I decided to chat with a man who rejects God.

1 Corinthians 1:20-25
20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
 
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God is real. You just don't want to believe it.
Yes, but what kind of an argument is that? It's weak because it is self-defeating. I could turn around and say the same thing to you. Evolution is real. You just don't want to believe it. God works through evolution. You just don't want to believe it.
 
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Yes, but what kind of an argument is that? It's weak because it is self-defeating. I could turn around and say the same thing to you. Evolution is real. You just don't want to believe it. God works through evolution. You just don't want to believe it.
It's not an argument. It's the Truth, and God has taught me time and time again that you cannot argue someone into believing the Truth, because to the natural man it is foolishness.

God, forgive me for acting like a fool on this thread, but I pray that it is all used for your glory.

Proverbs 26:4
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.
 
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How can you prove God to a person who refuses to believe Him? How can you prove Christ is the Son of God to someone if they think it is bogus? You can't!

In the same way that you convince anyone of anything else - you present EVIDENCE!

And you claim that you do have evidence. Yet none of you ever present any. All you do is repeat your claims and accuse those who don't believe you.
 
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No, the person with the Truth is right. God is real, that is the Truth. Jesus is the Son of God and the savior of all who put their faith and trust in Him, that is the Truth. But you sir, are not of the Truth, because you do not believe. So I will not waste my pearls any longer.
Again, you are resorting to personal insults, instead of solid logic. You have resorted to inflammatory rhetoric, attacking his character, saying he is "not of the truth." As I have told you, this kind of thing is totally inappropriate in a theological discussion. Elsewhere, you have been strongly implying those who don't think your way are really going to get it on Judgment Day. Threats like that are totally inappropriate in a theological discussion group.
 
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In the same way that you convince anyone of anything else - you present EVIDENCE!

And you claim that you do have evidence. Yet none of you ever present any. All you do is repeat your claims and accuse those who don't believe you.
You want a camera photo of Jesus? How about God in all of His blinding glory? There is no evidence I can give you. I can only the offer you the truth, and that can only be discerned spiritually. You don't have the Spirit of God, so this conversation is over.
 
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It's not an argument. It's the Truth, and God has taught me time and time again that you cannot argue someone into believing the Truth, because to the natural man it is foolishness.

God, forgive me for acting like a fool on this thread, but I pray that it is all used for your glory.

Proverbs 26:4
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.
It is purely your own interpretation of what the Bible is saying. Who says you are correct? I don't think you understand these biblical passages at all. It seems you want to exploit the Bible, using it as a weapon to embarrass those who use reason.
 
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Again, you are resorting to personal insults, instead of solid logic. You have resorted to inflammatory rhetoric, attacking his character, saying he is "not of the truth." As I have told you, this kind of thing is totally inappropriate in a theological discussion. Elsewhere, you have been strongly implying those who don't think your way are really going to get it on Judgment Day. Threats like that are totally inappropriate in a theological discussion group.
Someone is either true or they are not. That is not attacking his character, but his beliefs. You think everyone is true?

Everything I say is an attack, apparently. My words hurt, don't they? I'll spare you all, then.
 
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You want a camera photo of Jesus? How about God in all of His blinding glory? There is no evidence I can give you. I can only the offer you the truth, and that can only be discerned spiritually. You don't have the Spirit of God, so this conversation is over.

So when you said back there that you had evidence, were you telling a mistruth? Are you aware that your religion frowns on that behaviour?
 
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So when you said back there that you had evidence, were you telling a mistruth? Are you aware that your religion frowns on that behaviour?
I said life was evidence, but it is evidence that only those with spiritual eyes can see.
 
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How can you prove God to a person who refuses to believe Him? How can you prove Christ is the Son of God to someone if they think it is bogus? You can't! That is what the scripture says and that is what you are demonstrating right now. This all goes back to my very first post in this thread, and honestly, I should have ended it there. But of course, in my own foolishness I decided to chat with a man who rejects God.

1 Corinthians 1:20-25
20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Any time someone provides you with a rational argument you don't like, you try and claim Scripture is putting this person down with it remarks about "wisdom of the world.' That is a totally inappropriate understanding of Scripture, to start with. Furthermore, you provide no evidence the other guy is wrong. if you think he is foolish, present a solid, rational case why. If you have trouble convincing people is a God, then maybe you should examine how adept you are at this. How carefully did you listen and take seriously their reasons why they don't believe? Probably you blew them off, telling them immediately that they were gong on the foolishness of teh world or something. Also, merely quoting and firing away with Scripture, which is all you seem to do, is not a good way to win or make a convincing theological argument in the first place.
 
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