Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

[ScottA]

If you must know:

There is no evolution, but rather "a time, times, and half a time" - i.e., the [dividing] of time. One light divided in your sight through the prism of time, which is a creation of God...is still One Light. A great light has come into the world, but the world did not comprehend it.

Though you were told, you did not understand, because it was not revealed to you. Some will die and walk out their days in this world in His light, some will not see until the end, until they are raised up in the judgement, some unto eternal life, some not - but every eye will see.

 

[Extraneous]

I dont understand why people resist being of one mind in Christ. There is no division in one mind, but there is only Christ and Him alone. There are no denominations, politicians or political parties, no mans wisdom or mans tradition. There is nothing that divides whatsoever. This means to simplify the faith we share, not make it more complicated. This doesn't mean to throw out the scriptures, but rather to put them in our minds and hearts, and make room for nothing else that divides us. If anything divides it has no place in the Church and should not be debated. Look at Galatians 5-6. LIBERTY is mentioned. We are not a body of religion, science and politics, but of spirit. James says un defiled religin is to take care of widows and orphans and keep ourselves unspotted by the world, i.e. its politics, science, religion, because those things only cause division. Science is not bad but when it divides then its time to treat it as rubbish.

I can understand some Christians not seeing this, but the leaders of these denominations, they should see it, yet they dont or they would seek reform in the way of simplicity.

 

[jlhbr100]

To the best of my understanding, science is not supposed to operate like religion and politics.

This isn't to say I prefer division, though.

(Breaking my silence for a moment)

 

[Extraneous]

To the best of my understanding, science is not supposed to operate like religion and politics.

This isn't to say I prefer division, though.

(Breaking my silence for a moment)

Do you think science is holy? Do you think its not vulnerable to false doctrines and fallacy? Its mans wisdom. Of course it is unholy. Does that make all science bad? No, but it doesn't make it holy either. To think that science is not vulnerable to false doctrines of man, is to exalt science in a place that God alone sits.

Science surely operates like politics and religion. Science needs money to operate for one thing. That alone makes is vulnerable to the pollution of mans false doctrines. Science is a religion to some, although they wont admit it. Or perhaps are too blind to see it

 

[ViaCrucis]

Yeah, examination of living beings as well as recently deceased specimens

You mean making up stories about living beings don't you? Physicians seeing people make a couple coughs and then making up stories about little tiny fantasy "bugs"? It's ridiculous.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[jlhbr100]

Good point made. I wasn't thinking of a broad scope. What I meant was, at its root, it's just meant to figure out knowledge/understanding, and if honestly we have empirically what's understood to be the best explanation with the data known, it shouldn't be thrown out. I know you disagree, but I also believe the Bible mainly teaches spiritual truth (other words: it's not a science book) so I don't mind overlap as long as the belief that God created is held.

 

[Extraneous]

Yea well, i don't follow fairy tales, i follow prophets. If anything makes the prophets seem like fictional characters then i wont follow it, or i wont follow the prophets anymore. I must follow only one or the other, and I cant follow both, because its illogical. Its like trying be unequally yoked with darkness, or having a divided mind. I see only Christ, and i don't see scientific theories that would contradict Him in any way.

 

[Extraneous]

Let the blind lead the blind, both fall into a ditch. Peace.

 

[Hoghead1]

Most religious teaching, Extraneous, including your own belief system is man's wisdom, however. To think that religion is not subject to false doctrines is put your doctrines in the place of God. That's why the Bible says we should test everyone. So the question is, How much of a reality base is there to your belief system? How accurate are you in interpreting Scripture? What evidence can you present that you submitted your belief system to any sort of testing?

 

[BiblicalAstronomy]

Not wasting my time with you Junior...

My answer to your "rebuttals" has been posted...

 

[Hoghead1]

The issue, Extraneous, is whether you are one with the mind of Christ. Every kook, fanatic, and terrorist in the book claims that he knows the mind of Christ and has Scripture behind him. Laity generally operate with no safeguards in place to insure they don't project their own preconceived-of biases into Scripture and then assume Scripture is supporting their own pet ideology when it really isn't. Now I know you are not a terrorist. However, I am a cautious person and I am not about to out any more trust in the validity of your understanding of Scripture and related matters than I am in what a false prophet says. The question is, Have you examined yourself enough to be sure you aren't projecting your own pet ideology back into Scripture?

 

[Hoghead1]

How can you be sure, ScottA, that you are seeing the light and therefore have the right to condemn fellow Christians who don't agree with your belief system?

 

[BiblicalAstronomy]

Can you offer a solid rebuttal to any of his points, even one, BiblicalAstronom?

Actually the Bible does mention "Dinosaurs" just not by that name, [Job 41] refers to Leviathan and describes it with traits matching certain dinos... but because it does not refer to the "Rings of Saturn" in Scientific terms it evidently means nothing to you...

You said: "Well, we can't have every creature that ever lived as a fossil. There, the gaps are accounted for. So THAT statement is inaccurate."

How about accounting for the creatures evolutionary theory refers to in their specious evidence... they are full of holes in their fossil records. Your "rebuttal" means nothing...

In answer to you reference to Pi check out my blog post [blog.try-god.com] on Pi Day March 14th of 2015, for a greater in-depth view of the subject.

It matters not what "most interpreters" of Isaiah say, it matters what the Word says about itself! As 2 Pet. 1:20-21 teaches;

20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Also check the Hebrew grammar before you make those comments on the stretching of the heavens...besides the Creator started the current process which is still expanding, He was the impetus of the action that we still find taking place today. Thus these verses support even what Big Bang Science tells us-the initial explosion is still expanding-Your rebuttal means nothing!

The point on Job 26 was that it is an early Book in Bible Canon making reference to scientific truth long before Science thought anything about the concept of "gravity." Isaac Newton finally got to a Scientific understanding of this, verifying the Biblical truth stated thousands of years previous. The misunderstanding is again on your part.

God Bless

 

[BiblicalAstronomy]

We tellers of truth are used to rejection. But we do our duty.

Actually the Bible does mention "Dinosaurs" just not by that name, [Job 41] refers to Leviathan and describes it with traits matching certain dinos... but because it does not refer to the "Rings of Saturn" in Scientific terms it evidently means nothing to you...

You said: "Well, we can't have every creature that ever lived as a fossil. There, the gaps are accounted for. So THAT statement is inaccurate."

How about accounting for the creatures evolutionary theory refers to in their specious evidence... they are full of holes in their fossil records. Your "rebuttal" means nothing...

In answer to you reference to Pi check out my blog post [blog.try-god.com] on Pi Day March 14th of 2015, for a greater in-depth view of the subject.

It matters not what "most interpreters" of Isaiah say, it matters what the Word says about itself! As 2 Pet. 1:20-21 teaches;

20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Also check the Hebrew grammar before you make those comments on the stretching of the heavens...besides the Creator started the current process which is still expanding, He was the impetus of the action that we still find taking place today. Thus these verses support even what Big Bang Science tells us-the initial explosion is still expanding-Your rebuttal means nothing!

The point on Job 26 was that it is an early Book in Bible Canon making reference to scientific truth long before Science thought anything about the concept of "gravity." Isaac Newton finally got to a Scientific understanding of this, verifying the Biblical truth stated thousands of years previous. The misunderstanding is again on your part.

God Bless

 

[Hoghead1]

You made some big claims, Extraneous, such as your POV on the genealogy of teh prophets. What exactly is your evidence to support your POV here?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

You don't seem to understand the pharisees. The ones that the Lord rebuked were not spiritual but carnal. They minded earthly things. They wanted to see signs instead of hear truth. They also looked for earthy kings and kingdoms rather than heavenly ones. Its not a hollow claim, but you actually prove my point, that spiritual things are spiritually discerned, and that we reap what we sow.

Oh, they weren't REALLY spiritual, they just THOUGHT they were spiritual, and so they crucified the Lord of Glory. And today, thinking one is spiritual IS NOT A GUARANTEE that one is right about that.

And that applies to you and me.

Sure, they came to Jesus and kept saying "show us a sign". But you and I know they were meanwhile ignoring sign after sign before their very eyes.

So lets not ignore the sign after sign before our very eyes that evolution is real.

By the way, remember you have a broken vitamin c gene that shares the same break with other primates . . . a sign that we had a common ancestral species once that had that mutation.

 

[Hoghead1]

That doesn't work, BiblcialAstronom. Job 40:15 says, "But consider the chief of beasts, the crocodile..." and then goes on to describe the behavior of these creatures. So no way is Job referring to dinosaurs.

 

[Hoghead1]

No, Extraneous, you are way, way off here. We do not see the prophets as fictional characters. Before you try and interpret our faith for us, at lest check in and ask us what we do or do not believe about the Bible.

 

[Extraneous]

Most religious teaching, Extraneous, including your own belief system is man's wisdom, however. To think that religion is not subject to false doctrines is put your doctrines in the place of God. That's why the Bible says we should test everyone. So the question is, How much of a reality base is there to your belief system? How accurate are you in interpreting Scripture? What evidence can you present that you submitted your belief system to any sort of testing?

I share what i see. If people accept they do, if they don't then they don't. I have no desire to test anyone, nor to be tested. I test truth against scripture and i don't play silly games that children play. I'm too old for foolishness, and too tired as well.

 

[Extraneous]

No Hoghead, its you who are off base. You cant say Noah was a fictional character but then also say the prophets were real men. You cant pick and choose what to believe. Its my opinion that you either love the world or God, not both. Why am i even wasting my time here? You cant speak into deaf ears. You can try, but its futile.