Before Moses there were some God-given laws, who knew the Jews. Only, as now, very few did. Therefore God gave through Moses to the people more rules. The 10 Commandments are part of it, the Levitical law a further part.
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Before Moses there were some God-given laws, who knew the Jews. Only, as now, very few did. Therefore God gave through Moses to the people more rules. The 10 Commandments are part of it, the Levitical law a further part.
Jane, the Bible says nothing about a "higher" law. It is only in the Pearl of Great Price. And that is how research showed from the Book of Abraham the example, a fraud, invented by Joseph Smith.
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If there was no laws from God Cain could not have sinned against Him, for sin is the breaking of the law
"Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law."--- but Cain sinned by offering that which God had not commanded.
Gen_4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
God said this before Moses had the 10 commandments written on stone. This was said after the manna was given, and God said it would not be given on the 7th day, but there went some out to gather on the 7th day. The Sabbath was known before the 10 commandments were given to Moses. It was instituted at creation week.
(Gen 2:2 KJV) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
(Gen 2:3 KJV) And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
This is what he is talking about: Moses did come down the mountain and he saw the people worshipping a calf and he threw the tablets down and they broke---
(Exo 31:18 KJV) And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
Exo 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
Exo 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.
Exo 32:17 And when Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted, he said unto Moses, There is a noise of war in the camp.
Exo 32:18 And he said, It is not the voice of them that shout for mastery, neither is it the voice of them that cry for being overcome: but the noise of them that sing do I hear.
Exo 32:19 And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.
And God wrote them again and gave them to Moses---not different laws---the same 10 commandments as He had written before.
Exo 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.
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Matt 5
17 ¶Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 ¶Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be indanger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27 ¶Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
33 ¶Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shaltperform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38 ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
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Are you saying that this Pearl of Great Price is claiming that God wrote a different set of laws after Moses broke the tablets? I've not read the Pearl--the BOM was more than enough. What "higher law"? That's certainly not in the bible, the bible is clear that God wrote down the same words that He wrote the first time---so---either JS was deceived, as Eve had been, or he flat out lied. That is a judgement of the heart that no one can make, as yet. However, taking those Freemason rituals and declaring them sacred and of God smacks of deliberate concoction, not of being deceived, but give him the benefit of the doubt--for now. Either way---his writings are clearly not of God.
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Are these the higher laws? A note of explanation would help. This sums it up better.
Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Not that these are the only 2, but all the laws are derived, come from-- Hang--all of them.
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WHy not read Matthew 23 to see why Jesus is telling us to be better than the Phariesee's?
Oh I see, you see these as 'higher laws'. So may I ask, what sin does Christ's blood on the cross not atone for?
If one understands what REAL atonement is and that it is a free gift, than one knows that He already atoned for the sins of those who are His.
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Now that is being true to what the Bible says. After Jesus FULFILLED OT law, He gave us these two commandments.
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So why does Mormonism teach that there are sins that Jesus Christ's blood is not able to atone for?
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The 10 are not superseded by these 2--Jesus clearly states ALL THE LAW HANGS ON THESE 2. The first 4 of the 10 are dealing with what it means to love Good, the last 6 what it means to love your neighbor. He has nit superseded them, He has condensed them down to these 2 categories.
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@ withwonderingawe,
If it were not so sad, it would be very funny to see how Mormons attempt to abuse the Bible quotes for their purposes. Dear former sister in faith, you have read the context of the verses, you dealt with the original words and the historical contexts? Why did Jesus say that? To whom, and what he wanted to achieve with it? He did not speak of a "higher law", but the fact that he had come to fulfill the law of Moses. So that the people were no longer bound to a senseless rules but were in faith freely. Sister, you have a lot to learn!
If it were not so sad, it would be very funny to see how Mormons attempt to abuse the Bible quotes for their purposes. Dear former sister in faith, you have read the context of the verses, you dealt with the original words and the historical contexts? Why did Jesus say that? To whom, and what he wanted to achieve with it? He did not speak of a "higher law", but the fact that he had come to fulfill the law of Moses. So that the people were no longer bound to a senseless rules but were in faith freely. Sister, you have a lot to learn!
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Of course, the idea of a "higher law" is not in the Bible! Nor, as the nonsense with the baptism for the dead, the endowment, or this garmant that each member must contribute 24 hours and we all in Germany called "Liebestöter" (love slayer), because we have to carry this one piece even during sex; to protect ourselves against "impure thoughts". What I have yet believed then for nonsense!
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Are you talking about the Levitical law that ended the OT priesthood? That Christ fulfilled and became the ONLY High Priest for?
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Brigham Young was not the first to teach this. Sidney Rigdon also and Joseph Smith did that in their time. Today I believe that they were about even then, by force to maintain power. Because for what "crime" had to die by shedding of their own blood?
I'm counting on some:
Criticism of Church leaders
Sex / marriage with a colored
theft
adultery
murder
Disobedience to the church leaders
As regards the latter, I have an interesting story. In his "Confessions" told John D. Lee, an adopted son of Brigham Young, and executed later because of the Mountain Meadows massacre this story. Here is the short version:
An old Mormon bishop who already had several women threw his eye on a young girl that was engaged to someone. He wanted heiratetn. but do not, and the young man did not want to break the engagement. Everything threaten, cajole everything all promises were of no avail. As advised Bishop said with another, and they took counsel that they have to the young man because of his disobedience to the bishop, punish. They handcuffed the young man, and castrated him. It scarcely needs to say that neither of them were married, and that the girl married this old horny goat. When Brigham Young was telling the story, he was initially angry, said in the end, but that it would be best so.
A really "nice" Church!
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That is blasphemy!
When one is dependent more on the doctrine of man, than of God. That is no restoration of Christianity. We praise the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. No man.
It's interesting how now that Mormonism is trying to go into Africa and South Africa, that they are dropping the coloreds doctrine. WOW. New revelation of man. Revelation changes are 'quite' convenient for that religion.
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Do you know anything about the temple garments having an 'L' and 'V' on them, for the masonic square and compass? I heard these are on the temple garments as well as 'L' and 'V' symbols are cut into the temple veil that the voice talks through and puts their hands through to do the masonic handshakes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment See "Garments origins and evolution" sub heading and photo.
Don't they see how masonic all this is? It's amazing and all right there, out in the open. No wonder they were so upset that this all got out.
And if this ceremony is satanic they wear these masonic symbols on their person day and night never taking them off.
They place their eternal life in the hands of people. That's scary. Very scary.
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Another interesting point about the temple garments is that when Joseph Smith died he was NOT wearing temple garments.
Isn't that odd?
Isn't that odd?
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