Pre-Trib Only Will Egypt and the Nile River be destroyed?

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I wouldn't bother to watch another hyped up video by someone just promoting his views.
The prophesies about Egypt are clear, the Nile will dry up, not flood Egypt at all. An earthquake would break the ridge between Lake Nasser and the Qattara Depression, result: no water downstream for many years. Isaiah 19:5-6

I know you don't really like videos brother, but, I kind of want to know what Avi Lipkin has to say. I tend to like videos . I can measure what people have to say against the scriptures to see if I agree or disagree with them. Plus, sometimes they can be very entertaining.

 

[keras]

You're not citing the right scripture Keras, Isaiah 19:5-6 was just recently fulfilled around 2011 when the Nile began drying up. Isaiah wrote chapter 19 in chronological order making it easy to follow.

Funny, I did a cruise down the Nile in 2011. There was plenty of water in it then and I haven't seen any news reports of anything like what Isaiah says will happen, as yet.
Your preterist notions are just wrong.

 

[Psalm3704]

Funny, I did a cruise down the Nile in 2011. There was plenty of water in it then and I haven't seen any news reports of anything like what Isaiah says will happen, as yet.
Your preterist notions are just wrong.

Keras, that depends upon where you took the cruise. If the cruise was on the south side of the aswan dam, there's plenty of water in the Nile. If the cruise was north of the dam, the river is dried up. The creation of the dam is what fulfilled the prophecy of the Nile drying up. Same situation and prophecy about the Euphrates in Revelation. Two prophecies about two great rivers in the Middle East drying up. It's never happened before.


06/01/2011 from The New York Times
When the Nile Runs Dry
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/02/opinion/02Brown.html?_r=0

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[keras]

The creation of the dam is what fulfilled the prophecy of the Nile drying up

Rubbish! Drought in Ethiopia is the current problem.

Four prophesies that await fulfilment: Isaiah 19:5-10, Ezekiel 30:12, Ezekiel 29:8-12, Zechariah 10:11
The worldwide earthquakes of the Lord's Day of wrath will break out the western side of Lake Nasser and literally fulfil them.

 

[Psalm3704]

Rubbish! Drought in Ethiopia is the current problem.

Rubbish huh? You know it's funny every time you use that word against someone, I always find a loop-hold in your argument. The drought in Ethiopia started late last year due to El Nino. The Nile river began drying up in 2011.

Keras, how does a river begin dwindling down when there's no drought?

Read this: http://heraldofhope.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Nile-River-to-Dry-Up.pdf

Four prophesies that await fulfilment: Isaiah 19:5-10, Ezekiel 30:12, Ezekiel 29:8-12, Zechariah 10:11

I think there's more than four prophecies ahead that will be fulfill by the time Christ returns, especially about Egypt.

But let's go over Isaiah 19....again. Did you not read the entire post I've written in post#60?

Isaiah 19:5-10 Good News Translation (GNT)
5 The water will be low in the Nile, and the river will gradually dry up. 6 The channels of the river will stink as they slowly go dry. Reeds and rushes will wither, 7 and all the crops planted along the banks of the Nile will dry up and be blown away. 8 Everyone who earns a living by fishing in the Nile will groan and cry; their hooks and their nets will be useless. 9 Those who make linen cloth will be in despair;10 weavers and skilled workers will be broken and depressed.​

The worldwide earthquakes of the Lord's Day of wrath will break out the western side of Lake Nasser and literally fulfil them.

Look at the map. Look at the Nile river south of Aswan, there's plenty of water there, particularly in Lake Nasser. Now look at the Nile river north of Aswan. You can hardly see much water flowing downstream, the stream is narrow.

The Nile river north of Aswan is like a stream. The Nile river south of Aswan is a lake (Lake Nasser). What does that tell you Keras?

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[beameup]

Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia. No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.
The Tower of Syene is at the Aswan Dam; it was built in 1967. Egypt is has a treaty with Israel, and could be targeted by extremists for cooperating with the "enemy" [Israel]. Experts have said that the Aswan Dam is "indestructible"... with the exception of a nuclear attack. This option could easily occur between now and the Tribulation. Yemen is now a Shiite stronghold, an ally of Iran. The resultant flood from the dam would virtually wipe-out all the major cities of the Egyptian delta.

 

[Riberra]

Solar flares or Coronal Mass Ejections
The earth has lately been getting some reminders of the sun’s power, with a few solar flares. We are told how they can cause disruption of communications, but the news mostly focuses on the aurora displays.
I don’t waste any worry space about these minor events, but the CME predicted so comprehensively in Bible prophesy will be far off any scale and completely unprecedented. Joel 2:2b
The earths magnetosphere is a shield that protects us from the direct effects of a small CME. Auroras are the result of this protection. But we see that a CME could be the literal fulfilment of:

Isaiah 30:26 The sun will shine seven times stronger... and -

Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace...., will cause –

2 Peter 3:10....the heavens will disappear with a great rushing sound.

Isaiah 64:1 Lord, tear aside the heavens, come down and cause earthquakes, fires and make water boil.

It seem that the destruction by fire apply perfectly to Revelation 20:7-9 (after the millennium) and Revelation 21:1 -and i saw a new heaven and a new earth ....and there was no more sea.

Revelation 20:7-9
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Revelation 21:1
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

It seem that the destruction by fire apply perfectly to Revelation 20:7-9 (after the millennium) and Revelation 21:1 -and i saw a new heaven and a new earth ....and there was no more sea.

Revelation 20:7-9
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Revelation 21:1
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Trust me, there will be a lot of fire, just as there was a lot of water in the flood.

 

[Riberra]

Trust me, there will be a lot of fire, just as there was a lot of water in the flood.

My point is that there is no fire coming down from the sky at the opening of the 6th seal .No new heaven and no new earth until after the millennium.Revelation 21 The 6th seal is the wrath of the LAMB not the fire coming from GOD the father mentionned in Revelation 20:7-9

Revelation 6:12-17
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

This is fire.

 

[Riberra]

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

This is fire.

Meteors shower.

 

[keras]

It seem that the destruction by fire apply perfectly to Revelation 20:7-9 (after the millennium) and Revelation 21:1 -and i saw a new heaven and a new earth ....and there was no more sea.

God will destroy the armies who make their final attack against Jesus, by fire from heaven. That can't be a CME because it will be localized and specifically directed. There will be another CME at the 4th Bowl. Revelation 16:8-9
But the 6th Seal will be a massive CME, because only that will cause the cosmic and earthly effects described. Confirmed by many other prophesies about the Lord's Day [a literal day] of vengeance and wrath:
Zephaniah 3:8...the whole earth will be consumed by the fire of My anger.
Isaiah 66:15-16...the Lord will judge with fire, many will be slain by Him.
Hebrews 10:27...a fierce fire will consume God's enemies.
2 Peter 3:7 ....the earth is reserved for burning on the Day of Judgement, when the godless will be destroyed.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Meteors shower.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZbM0x6ZEJaU4nkyKFkpZDBK3odoWFejD2y3D1Hp3ICpb6z8ONbVweMdQ

It says they will fall to Earth. IMHO like the one that struck Russia several years ago, but more.

 

[Riberra]

It seem that the destructionby fire apply perfectly to Revelation 20:7-9 (after the millennium)and Revelation 21:1

God will destroy the armies who make their final attack against Jesus, by fire from heaven. That can't be a CME because it will be localized and specifically directed.

I have not implyed that the cause of that fire from God will be a CME.I pointed out that the verses that you quoted fit better with the events occuring after the millennium.
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Zephaniah 3:8...the whole earth will be consumed by the fire of My anger.
Isaiah 66:15-16...the Lord will judge with fire, many will be slain by Him.
Hebrews 10:27...a fierce fire will consume God's enemies.
2 Peter 3:7 ....the earth is reserved for burning on the Day of Judgement, when the godless will be destroyed.
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There will be another CME at the 4th Bowl. Revelation 16:8-9

No CME needed for that extra heat from the sun....
Revelation 16
And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

But the 6th Seal will be a massive CME, because only that will cause the cosmic and earthly effects described. Confirmed by many other prophesies about the Lord's Day [a literal day] of vengeance and wrath:

Why are you so focused on a CME? Nothing occuring at the opening of the 6Th seal even hint at a CME as the cause of the events described.

Revelation 6:12-17
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

 

[Riberra]

It says they will fall to Earth. IMHO like the one that struck Russia several years ago, but more.

No fires have been reported after than that meteorite have exploded in the atmosphere.Lot of windows were broken because of the pressure wave....impressive event caught on videos... that's about all.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

No fires have been reported after than that meteorite have exploded in the atmosphere.Lot of windows were broken because of the pressure wave....impressive event caught on videos... that's about all.

When they explode in the atmosphere there is fire. What makes you think there will not be fire when they explode on the ground or when they hit a building?

 

[Riberra]

When they explode in the atmosphere there is fire.

What makes you think there will not be fire when they explode on the ground or when they hit a building?

If that meteorite have hit the ground rather than explode high in the atmosphere that would have been a catastropic event for that region...with thousands of death .

The Bible describe an event about 100 pounds meteorites falling from heaven and hitting the ground happening in Revelation 16 during the 7Th VIAL not at the 6th Seal.

Revelation 16
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every STONE about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

If that meteorite have hit the ground rather than explode high in the atmosphere that would have been a catastropic event for that region...with thousands of death .

Uh Huh.

 

[Riberra]

Uh Huh.

If the meteorite have hit a big city rather than exploding high in the atmosphere of course.

 

[keras]

Why are you so focused on a CME? Nothing occuring at the opening of the 6Th seal even hint at a CME as the cause of the events described.

What I do is carefully study ALL of the Prophetic Word.
We know the Sixth Seal IS the Day of the Lord's wrath and the 4 scriptures I pointed out in #72 prove the Lord will send fire on that Day. Amos 1:1-15, Isaiah 10:17-19....note: in one day...
A massive CME will cause the sky to roll up like a scroll, the moon to blaze blood red, the earth to shake and shudder and our satellites to crash to earth.
Why must you argue against such a thing happening? Is it just too scary for you?

No CME needed for that extra heat from the sun....
Revelation 16
And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

An extra blast of heat from the sun IS a Coronal Mass Ejection, just as Isaiah 30:26 says will happen on the Day the Lord sieves out the nations for destruction. Isaiah 30:27-28 His arm will descend in fierce anger, with devouring flames of fire....Isaiah 30:30