The Moral Argument

[Oncedeceived]

Defend themselves? He commanded their complete destruction (Deuteronomy 20:16-18). And not out of self-defence, but because "they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God."

It was in defense of the Jews. Also, God casting judgement on the Amalekites for killing their own children and not wanting the Jews to do the same is wrong how?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

It was in defense of the Jews.

Couldn't Yahweh defend them himself without commanding that they slaughter men, women, and children?

Also, God casting judgement on the Amalekites for killing their own children and not wanting the Jews to do the same is wrong how?

So Yahweh's brilliant solution to the Amalekites killing their own children is to have his followers kill them instead? That's his brilliant plan to save them from the hands of their Amalekite parents?

 

[anonymous person]

His plan was to eliminate wicked people from the face of the earth. Unrepentant, evil people who had been given several centuries to clean up their act. And I am glad that was His plan. I am only sorry that Israel was not obedient to carry it out fully.

Anymore questions?

 

[bhsmte]

I am assuming you said something to the effect that I was a lousy apologist.

And I was, up until now. For up until now I was ministering in unbelief, attempting to do a work that God has said I cannot do unless I abide in Him. Apart from Him, I can do nothing.

For the fence sitters on this site, I don't think you are winning them over Jeremy.

 

[bhsmte]

Note the emphasis. I didn't ask you what you would do "if a group of people came up from behind you and your people while peacefully passing by and started killing the young, the old and the disabled." I didn't ask whether you would feel that "it was your moral duty to kill those that were trying to kill you and your children."

In black and white:


Curious then that you omitted this post.

When folks play this type of game, day in and day out, it tells you all you need to know.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Couldn't Yahweh defend them himself without commanding that they slaughter men, women, and children?

So it is not the act but how He had it carried out that is your issue?

So Yahweh's brilliant solution to the Amalekites killing their own children is to have his followers kill them instead? That's his brilliant plan to save them from the hands of their Amalekite parents?

You are cherry picking. We've established that there was a need to defend themselves or be wiped out themselves, so why is God wrong in telling them to wipe them out?

 

[anonymous person]

For the fence sitters on this site, I don't think you are winning them over Jeremy.

I am not trying to win anyone over. I desire to do the will of God.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

So it is not the act but how He had it carried out that is your issue?

Is he not able to defend them?

You are cherry picking. We've established that there was a need to defend themselves or be wiped out themselves, so why is God wrong in telling them to wipe them out?

We also established that the need for defence was not why he commanded complete destruction. He was fearful that they would worship other gods.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Is he not able to defend them?

We also established that the need for defence was not why he commanded complete destruction. He was fearful that they would worship other gods.

He did that is what we are discussing.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

His plan was to eliminate wicked people from the face of the earth. Unrepentant, evil people who had been given several centuries to clean up their act. And I am glad that was His plan. I am only sorry that Israel was not obedient to carry it out fully.

Anymore questions?

He couldn't do it himself? Needed sycophants to do his dirty work?

 

[bhsmte]

I am not trying to win anyone over. I desire to do the will of God.

What exactly is the will of God you claim to be doing, on this site?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I am not trying to win anyone over. I desire to do the will of God.

Were you doing the will of God when you plagiarised earlier?

 

[Oncedeceived]

Leaving for a bit talk later.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

His plan was to eliminate wicked people from the face of the earth. Unrepentant, evil people who had been given several centuries to clean up their act. And I am glad that was His plan. I am only sorry that Israel was not obedient to carry it out fully.

Anymore questions?

You're glad that he commanded children to be slaughtered, and you would participate in that act if he commanded you to do it?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I desire to do the will of God.

So does ISIS.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Is he not able to defend them?

So it is how it did it that gives you issue?

We also established that the need for defence was not why he commanded complete destruction. He was fearful that they would worship other gods.

Yes, very important part of all of it...So? They were a very horrendous people that went around killing other people not only the Jews. Of course, if you think that throwing children into the fire to satisfy this false god was a good thing I guess you are not going to listen to anything that might change your mind.

 

[Oncedeceived]

So does ISIS.

No, they don't. They do it for Allah.

 

[bhsmte]

Is he not able to defend them?

We also established that the need for defence was not why he commanded complete destruction. He was fearful that they would worship other gods.

And of that fear of people worshiping other Gods, 2/3 of the world's population are off the reservation, so it doesn't look like it worked all too well.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

So it is how it did it that gives you issue?

Yes, very important part of all of it...So? They were a very horrendous people that went around killing other people not only the Jews.

According to the Bible, which was written by?

Of course, if you think that throwing children into the fire to satisfy this false god was a good thing I guess you are not going to listen to anything that might change your mind.

And Yahweh's plan to save them from that was to kill them? Is he "defending" them from these children, or are the children also the victims? You can't seem to decide.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

No, they don't. They do it for Allah.

I think DogmaHunter said it well:

I understand where the difference lies. And it's not in the evidence. It's in the mythology.

The only thing you can say to an ISIS fighter concerning his "morals", is that he follows the wrong god. If he had the right god, then what he is doing would be correct and YOU would be immoral for speaking out against it.