Students Face Impeachment, Probation, for attending tequilla-themed party

[keith99]

You think St Patrick's Day is representative of a normal day in Ireland? But I don't see the Irish chapters in many colleges getting up in arms about the green beer.

Why would an Irishman or even a bloody Brit care about Americans putting green dye in the swill they call beer? It would be like choking on a gnat after swallowing a camel!

 

[KarateCowboy]

Interesting link, they delayed the impeachment hearing because they do NOT have a defined process for impeachment.

Ex post facto anyone?

Dude this guy ruffled my feathers: lets indict him, then come up with a charge, then a rule and process behind it!

Sounds like witch hunt to me

 

[KarateCowboy]

Why would an Irishman or even a bloody Brit care about Americans putting green dye in the swill they call beer? It would be like choking on a gnat after swallowing a camel!

I see you've never had Spotted Cow.

 

[keith99]

Dude this guy ruffled my feathers: lets indict him, then come up with a charge, then a rule and process behind it!

Sounds like witch hunt to me

No, sentence first - verdict afterwards! Assuming the students there are literate enough to get it.

 

[keith99]

I see you've never had Spotted Cow.

Mea Culpa, I should have said American mass market beer.

 

[MehGuy]

One of them is an equity trader with Deutsche Bank, and another one is an associate at a pretty fancy law firm, after clerking for a Federal Judge, so I think that "ruined" is a pretty disingenuous verb to be using in this instance. Perhaps something more like, "Duke University briefly inconvenienced its entire Lacrosse team"

Disgusting. We cry about safe spaces and other trivial crap for women but men can handle the trauma of being viewed as rapists. Kinda sends the message that men are strong stoic beings and women are overgrown children. One reason I can't take modern feminism seriously. Their strategy to make the sexes equal is often asinine and horribly counterproductive.

 

[nightflight]

One of them is an equity trader with Deutsche Bank, and another one is an associate at a pretty fancy law firm, after clerking for a Federal Judge, so I think that "ruined" is a pretty disingenuous verb to be using in this instance. Perhaps something more like, "Duke University briefly inconvenienced its entire Lacrosse team"

 

[keith99]

Only because they thought tooth and nail to get it, no thanks to the usual suspects in the college system.

Actually the Duke Lacrosse team ended up pretty lucky. Their case is one of the very few where when the truth finally came out and they were cleared that also was front page news. Others are not that fortunate.

 

[Gadarene]

Actually the Duke Lacrosse team ended up pretty lucky. Their case is one of the very few where when the truth finally came out and they were cleared that also was front page news. Others are not that fortunate.

Quite, you can fight tooth and nail against these clowns and still not come out on top :/

 

[KarateCowboy]

I'm delighted at all of the conservatives here discovering a new appreciation for free speech. You are all hereby invited to my next American Flag burning party!

Sounds great. Mind if I join in?

 

[KarateCowboy]

Mea Culpa, I should have said American mass market beer.

Oh, yeah. That stuff. Garbage. What else to expect from The People's Beer?

 

[Gadarene]

Sounds great. Mind if I join in?

Oh no you diiiint

 

[KarateCowboy]

Oh no you diiiint

Isn't it something though? Americans of all stripes wince more at the burning of the butt-humpity flag than the American flag? It's really a poetic statement on our public conscience.

Here's another one. I can't wait to see them tie themselves in knots trying to say how burning an aberrosexual flag is "hatred and incitement to violence" but burning the flag of a nation is "peaceful expression".

 

[SummerMadness]

A website that discusses college controversies is anti-college?

Perhaps anti-college is not the correct term, but a website called "College Reform," is nothing more than a right-wing blog devoted to their hatred of liberalism at college campuses. They're not going to be too forthcoming about information that contradicts their agenda.

So they come from Mexico? You know places where that actually is the culture.

Do they have to come from Mexico? They could be Mexican or their parent(s) could be Mexican.

So it's as was already stated, much ado about nothing.

According to whom? For you it's nothing, for others it's something.

You do realize that there is a bit more to mexican culture than a hat right?

There is more to Mexican culture than a hat, and your point is? They wore a hat, that's not meant to represent Mexican culture!

It's the epitome of "first world problem syndrome".

People in developing and undeveloped countries cannot be offended by people that ignorantly mistake their culture for another? News to me.

I'm just assuming that most of them are so mentally infantile that this is a serious issue in their life.

Or it's just one of many issues? They have rules, they are going through a process.

I get what your saying, why actually talk to people who were raised and spent most of their life in Mexico about this issue when we have the opinions of a bunch of American children to go on. It's not like the people I talked to have any idea about their own culture no.

You're right Summer, what was I thinking? They are only Mexicans what would they know about their own culture?

And my sources say opposite of your sources, what makes the opinion of "my" Mexicans more valid than "your" Mexicans? As I said, anecdotal information only takes you so far, and the kids at the University are speaking for themselves, and they don't like the actions of these students. Are you arguing that the students aren't Mexican or Mexican-American?

 

[TerranceL]

Perhaps anti-college is not the correct term, but a website called "College Reform," is nothing more than a right-wing blog devoted to their hatred of liberalism at college campuses. They're not going to be too forthcoming about information that contradicts their agenda.

And yet the information they provided matches the information you provided.

Do they have to come from Mexico? They could be Mexican or their parent(s) could be Mexican.

It would help if they actually came from the part of the world whose culture they think needs defending. You know if they actually came from Mexican culture.

According to whom? For you it's nothing, for others it's something.

Well I do understand that I probably have actual issues more important than hats to deal with..

There is more to Mexican culture than a hat, and your point is? They wore a hat, that's not meant to represent Mexican culture!

Exactly it's not meant to represent Mexican culture. No more than wearing a cowboy hat is meant to represent southwest American rural culture.

People in developing and undeveloped countries cannot be offended by people that ignorantly mistake their culture for another?

These American kids being offended on behalf of poor brown people. It's white savior syndrome.

News to me.

Don't leave yourself open like that!

And my sources say opposite of your sources, what makes the opinion of "my" Mexicans more valid than "your" Mexicans? As I said, anecdotal information only takes you so far, and the kids at the University are speaking for themselves, and they don't like the actions of these students. Are you arguing that the students aren't Mexican or Mexican-American?

I guess your right, I shouldn't listen to what people who have spent most of their lives in Mexico says as long as what they say counterpoints what 'progressives' say.

 

[MehGuy]

Sounds great. Mind if I join in?

lol

 

[KarateCowboy]

And yet the information they provided matches the information you provided.

It would help if they actually came from the part of the world whose culture they think needs defending. You know if they actually came from Mexican culture.

Well I do understand that I probably have actual issues more important than hats to deal with..

Exactly it's not meant to represent Mexican culture. No more than wearing a cowboy hat is meant to represent southwest American rural culture.

These American kids being offended on behalf of poor brown people. It's white savior syndrome.

Don't leave yourself open like that!

I guess your right, I shouldn't listen to what people who have spent most of their lives in Mexico says as long as what they say counterpoints what 'progressives' say.

It's kind of frightening that people actually side with the mentality of "but to them, it's something". It's like defending a Southern white getting offended that a colored sassed off to him. "To him, it's something". Well, deal with it. I highly doubt that 'progressives' would come to the ardent defense of some uber-pure-type Christian university wanting to expel students for a "show your ankles, girls" party. Though, I CAN imagine them defending a Muslim university.

 

[MehGuy]

Kinda sad when people are more concerned how an ethnic group will feel regarding silly hats worn at parties, yet be so cold to men who face false allegations of rape. I'll just say it, being falsely accused of rape can be just as traumatic as being raped.

 

[SummerMadness]

And yet the information they provided matches the information you provided.

The Bowdoin Orient has more information than provided on the "campus reform" website.

It would help if they actually came from the part of the world whose culture they think needs defending. You know if they actually came from Mexican culture.

You keep on insisting that no one is Mexican and that is not the case.

Well I do understand that I probably have actual issues more important than hats to deal with..

Exactly it's not meant to represent Mexican culture. No more than wearing a cowboy hat is meant to represent southwest American rural culture.

Here's the fun game that is being played... Let's have a tequila party, wear Mexican-style sombreros, and say we're having a fiesta, but we're not linking any of that to Mexican culture! *wink wink*

They reduced Mexican culture to alcohol and a hat.

These American kids being offended on behalf of poor brown people. It's white savior syndrome.

I guess someone better tell the Hispanic student that filed the articles of impeachment that he's a white savior along with the Hispanic president of the council. Or perhaps you should tell the Mexican student that spoke at the public forum that he needs to stop being such a white savior. Oh wait, they're not a bunch of white people...

I guess your right, I shouldn't listen to what people who have spent most of their lives in Mexico says as long as what they say counterpoints what 'progressives' say.

You can trust them all you want, but the person you speak is not representative. It is no more valid than me saying most Mexicans have a problem with the portrayal. What we do know is students at the school, including Mexican students, had a problem with the party. Considering the party occurred in a residence hall on their campus, I think they have a say in the matters, and it holds a little more weight than an alleged conversation you had with a Mexican neighbor.

 

[TerranceL]

The Bowdoin Orient has more information than provided on the "campus reform" website.

Not about the actual party.

You keep on insisting that no one is Mexican and that is not the case.

Are they actually from Mexico or from the United States?

Here's the fun game that is being played... Let's have a tequila party, wear Mexican-style sombreros, and say we're having a fiesta, but we're not linking any of that to Mexican culture! *wink wink*

They reduced Mexican culture to alcohol and a hat.

So you mean like what's done every year as a national holiday when people celebrate St. Patricks day? Why is this different?

I guess someone better tell the Hispanic student that filed the articles of impeachment that he's a white savior along with the Hispanic president of the council. Or perhaps you should tell the Mexican student that spoke at the public forum that he needs to stop being such a white savior. Oh wait, they're not a bunch of white people...

Again, are they Mexican or Americans? You do realize you can have a spanish last name and be born in the united states right?

You can trust them all you want, but the person you speak is not representative. It is no more valid than me saying most Mexicans have a problem with the portrayal. What we do know is students at the school, including Mexican students, had a problem with the party. Considering the party occurred in a residence hall on their campus, I think they have a say in the matters, and it holds a little more weight than an alleged conversation you had with a Mexican neighbor.

It's funny how the whole progressive mantra of "respect peoples lived experiences" flies out the window once those people are saying something progressives don't want to hear.